Shots fired at Police during Dallas Police anti-violence protest (5 officers killed)

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Krejlooc

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I can't stop tearing up as I watch footage of the gun fire

I can't believe this is my country

I find that the communities that create a tone that encourages cop hatred and calls them oppressive gangsters or some such is more to blame for this than the 24 hour news. I see that kind of inciting every time there's a story about police linked violence on this forum.
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You've got to be kidding me

EDIT: Deleted. But if you honestly believe this (and I won't call you out by name) then you are blind as to the reasons people say that shit in the first place.
 
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Mesousa said:
The place where book haram took like 80 school girls and the government is too apathetic to even try to look for them?

I'd say this is much better.
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In both countries you can get shot in public daylight by a militant police force, just by being in the wrong place in the wrong time. Every day you live in fear because someone can decide to end your life and the government will make a half assed (or no attempt) at justice because you are not the correct hue or not rich enough.

Like I said, not much better.
 
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Ugh the US should just heavily restrict guns like most countries, these things will keep on happening forever at this rate. Will never understand the mentality behind guns, which are a source of danger, not safety. The terrorism threat doesn't help either.
 
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Plinko said:
Agreed. I think the racism has always been there. However, it feels like over the past 5 years, racists have gotten more brazen and public with it. It didn't feel at all like this 10 years ago.
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I believe that police abuse and racism it's about the same as how it's been in the past, the problem is that before they were able to cover their fuck ups between each other. Now with the internet and everybody carrying a camera, there is no way, videos are getting viral the same day or like the last case, it was streamed live. Still, I don't agree that this is the way to handle this problem, we are heading back to the wild west ways of an eye for an eye.
 
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Bam Bam Baklava said:
CNN Evan Perez saying sources in investigation they find no international link to terrorism yet. Group was using the protest as a cover for their ambush.
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Brian Williams on MSNBC @ ~3am last night was all-but directly blaming the protestors for this terrorist attack.
Tatsumi Oga said:
Ok that is really good to hear. I do think i should take into account that media in general likes to exeggerate things.
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The police chief was the one who said that in a press conference
 
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Tatsumi Oga said:
Ok that is really good to hear. I do think i should take into account that media in general likes to exaggerate things.
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To be fair, they more or less relayed the exact words of police chief Brown from a press conference where he quoted one of the suspects in a stand-off with the police saying there were "bombs all over the place". But yeah, the context of that statement being made by a pinned down assailant made it seem like a bluff, something the media could've highlighted better.
 
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BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO said:
They probably aren't black. Was likely disappointing to find out.
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Oh shit. Well, I'm praying they aren't black. I really don't want this shit to escalate any quicker than it has been. I mean people already calling BLACKLIVESMATTER a terrorist organization that needs to be disbanded. Like wtf. And certainly don't want any crooked cops with itchy trigger fingers to be able to rationalize more shootings and people feel it's somehow justified or unavoidable because they think blacks are targeting cops now.

Earlier shootings fueled by racism. We don't need cops fueled by fear, anger, and retaliation thrown in.
 
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SquishLiz said:
I feel like racism, sexism and bigotry in general are the highest they've been in a very long time.

Maybe I was too young to remember, but I genuinely don't recall anywhere near as much hatred back in the early to mid 2000s.

Somebody please feel free to correct me
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Its always been bad. Now you just have platforms (the internet, the media) which amplify it.
 
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So they guy who was wrongly accused of being a shooter was holding a AR15 at a demonstration? I believe its allowed to walk arround with that kind of rifle if you have a permit? Insane..
 
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BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO said:
They probably aren't black. Was likely disappointing to find out.
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There are multiple situations where you could argue for both sides.

Withholding the color of the skin because they are black could be a way to at least let everyone cool down incase it in itself causes major uproar (IE BLM killing cops, we're at war type of shit)
 
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BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO said:
They probably aren't black. Was likely disappointing to find out.
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Alternatively, they were black and the media is trying to hold off on causing more racial tensions.

I really, really hope they aren't black. I'll take the L as a brown dude and hope they were ISIS sympathizers as long as it doesn't stoke the BLM vs cops flames.
 
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jon bones said:
Alternatively, they were black and the media is trying to hold off on causing more racial tensions.

I really, really hope they aren't black. I'll take the L as a brown dude and hope they were ISIS sympathizers as long as it doesn't stoke the BLM vs cops flames.
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Like Muslims haven't suffered enough. I hope it's
neither.
 
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jon bones said:
Alternatively, they were black and the media is trying to hold off on causing more racial tensions.

I really, really hope they aren't black. I'll take the L as a brown dude and hope they were ISIS sympathizers as long as it doesn't stoke the BLM vs cops flames.
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wtf
 
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Up to five dead police officers now? 🙁

RIP to those brave men and women. My thoughts and prayers to the family and friends.


SquishLiz said:
I feel like racism, sexism and bigotry in general are the highest they've been in a very long time.

Maybe I was too young to remember, but I genuinely don't recall anywhere near as much hatred back in the early to mid 2000s.

Somebody please feel free to correct me
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Some will want to deny it, but this is the most progressive time in history. Just a few high profile examples, like a current sitting black president, gay marriage legality, and the upcoming election of the first female president.

So yes, things are better than in the past. Like others have said, social media magnifies the current problems.


Nastrodamous said:
you probably dont "remember" because you are white and live in the suburbs.
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How is this OK?
 
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Kettch said:
Speaking as a white man here, the obvious "best" case scenario here is the suspects being white, since we are never held accountable as a race for individual actions like minorities are....but none of this matters at all. The suspects will be whatever race they are and no hoping will change that.
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Race war isn't happening. It's a relic that made circumstantial sense when slavery was in vogue.

Cromwell said:
I don't think people are celebrating, but this shouldn't come as a huge shock after the police in this country have been straight up murdering black people for years now. The powder keg was bound to go off eventually, it's just tragic that it happened to these cops who were actually doing the right thing and helping the protesters.
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We did have a shooting incident before during or immediately after Ferguson. The difference here is people actually died so it made the issues a lot more serious.


The Lamp said:
I could have been there. How sad for my city. This will only escalate violence.

But I'm keenly aware of my friends on Facebook who had nothing to say this week until cops die last night. Cops willingly sign up for the risk of getting killed on the job by violent citizens, black people do not willingly sign up for the risk of being executed by cops in daily interactions.
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They do sign up for this but it's unreasonable to argue this point when they aren't responding to a situation to help people but are directly targeted to being murdered. I'm not in favor of this idea we should downplay the obligation we have in working with officers rationally and justly to sort out any problems we have with their performance. We also have a responsibility to each other in curbing our worst possible behaviors.
 
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The media isn't holding back a description of the shooter, they just don't know. They trip over themselves to report anything and everything without fact checking, they're not the least bit worried about backlash on what is being reported. Anchor on CNN just asked a witness to describe the shooter on-air. Trust me, the second they know (or think they know), they'll throw it out there.
 
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Krejlooc

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ColdPizza said:
Cops were wearing their summer shirts as opposed to riot gear to convey a friendlier tone.
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They were closing down streets for the protest. They were working closely with protest organizers. They were basically sending all the right messages. I applaud the way DPD acted, this is a tragedy. The worst possible time for something like this to happen.
 
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Bubba T said:
In both countries you can get shot in public daylight by a militant police force, just by being in the wrong place in the wrong time. Every day you live in fear because someone can decide to end your life and the government will make a half assed (or no attempt) at justice because you are not the correct hue or not rich enough.

Like I said, not much better.
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I don't live in fear of any man, and neither should you.

If you really think the situation we live in America isn't much better than the average Nigerian then you are simply being disingenuous, or the experience you had in Nigeria was shaped by being a rich American who probably had a lighter skin tone to grant you privilege from the average person.

The life expectancy in Nigeria, even today, is in the early 50's. The average person has worse healthcare, makes much less compared to the average African American, and these are objective facts both governments provide.

African Americans have worked hard to contribute to the fantastic living standard we both share, and to say it isn't much better than a place where the government can't even be fucked to look for 100 kidnapped girls is a slap in the face to all the work they put in. We are much better off than Nigeria.
 
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Haloid1177

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Was the guy whose photo was plastered everywhere last night not involved at all? I know he gave his gun to the cops but just wanted to make sure he was okay.
 
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Nastrodamous said:
you probably dont "remember" because you are white and live in the suburbs.
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He/she didnt say higher than theyve ever been, just higher than theyve been in a long time (spevifically since the early 2000s). And he admitted he could be wrong. Hell I dont know. There is no yardstick to measure racism/sexism/bigotry on a year to year basis.

But your assumption that he/she is a suburbian white person certainly isn't very above-board. You dont have any clue who he/she is.
 
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