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[SPOILER THREAD] Suicide Squad
- Thread starter George Oscar Bluth II
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Okay I saw it, wow I'm shocked how bad it was, cos I was ready to be one of the few that would like it
I liked bvs a lot, cinema version
I like cheesy movies
I like films most people dislike (iron man 2, age of ultron, man of steel etc)
This was just dull, not in a bad it good,but in a bad, what was the point?
Didn't care for the bad guys and their blob minions seriously 1960's Dr Who level bad, but that worked in the 1960's for a bbc cheap budget, here no way.
It didnt feel exciting not one bit
Joker was bland
Slipknot was wasted
Batman, Harley, Deadshot were the best
Tried to be a tim burton like, it failed
Rick flagg did nothing
Carla as enchantress, that little jig she was doing towards the end! Bad acting I think she was meant to be moving like she wad possessed, but came out all wrong as if she wad gonna dance but got no rythym
My favourite part was when I thought the Joker was dead....nope.
If they show the other cut they claim they havEd, I am willing to watch, not expecting much unleds its like a whole new film
I liked bvs a lot, cinema version
I like cheesy movies
I like films most people dislike (iron man 2, age of ultron, man of steel etc)
This was just dull, not in a bad it good,but in a bad, what was the point?
Didn't care for the bad guys and their blob minions seriously 1960's Dr Who level bad, but that worked in the 1960's for a bbc cheap budget, here no way.
It didnt feel exciting not one bit
Joker was bland
Slipknot was wasted
Batman, Harley, Deadshot were the best
Tried to be a tim burton like, it failed
Rick flagg did nothing
Carla as enchantress, that little jig she was doing towards the end! Bad acting I think she was meant to be moving like she wad possessed, but came out all wrong as if she wad gonna dance but got no rythym
My favourite part was when I thought the Joker was dead....nope.
If they show the other cut they claim they havEd, I am willing to watch, not expecting much unleds its like a whole new film
DAVIDHUXLEY
Member
Reading Suicide Squad Rebirth#1. It's better. I think this team would have been great for some sort of take on a heist film. As for Leto it must be galling that an animated version of the same character you played is more well regarded. Sad!
I liked the part where Deadshot went ham on the zambies and everybody's like "holy shit", but other than that they weren't good
she was really bad in this movie
terrible even
Atraveller
Banned
I think the worst part about Enchantress is actually the voice modulator the movie used.
By that point they seemed to have a strange bond, and I think in his own way Boomerang respected Deadshot and Croc at least, and had a thing for Katana. Diablo's story also seemed to shock him so maybe he finally understood honor among thieves
But I had to guess that myself because nothing is shown
People will always compare portrayals which is kind of unfair, but his shared so much with Ledger's that it's hard not to draw similarities, and it unfortunately was boring compared to that.
Otherwise though, Hamill is so iconic that whenever I read Joker in print his voice is the one I hear. That'll probably never be topped.
BeardyChan
Member
I mean he is called Boomerang for a reason.
The theater I saw the movie in was full of comic book fans and the amount of unified groaning taking place could be heard. The movie was bad and not the its so bad its good bad kind of movie. The strategic addition of the loud licenced music throughout the movie being used to make viewer's enjoy some entertainment is a sign of a bad movie.
That plot was weaker than a Supergirl episode.
well this movie was like a 5/10, disappointing to say the least. I did find the part where Rick was like you guys can leave and Boomerang bolted out of there immediately to be pretty funny. But then in the next scene, Boomerang joins the team again with no explanation, nothing whatsoever. wtf was that? I couldn't believe the writing was that bad and lazy. Did something get cut out?
EDIT: lol guess I'm not the only one
EDIT: lol guess I'm not the only one
Damn
The final fight was terribad, man. It's not very convincing when you had the big bad earlier slamming copter down from the sky, annihilating subway train, then... resorted to normal punches and kicks against the squad.
Like wut.
The way the Enchantress went down was cringe as hell. That's some bad set-up. I'm not asking for some rube goldberg machine to take down the final bosses, but I have higher expectation than how the entire last act worked out.
Like wut.
The way the Enchantress went down was cringe as hell. That's some bad set-up. I'm not asking for some rube goldberg machine to take down the final bosses, but I have higher expectation than how the entire last act worked out.
heliosRAzi
Banned
I didn't say it was the problem, I said it was a problem. The movie would have been a lot stronger if there was a compelling reason for Task Force X to be implemented.
I'm not saying that Waller has to contrive it. In fact, I don't want that. I just want a better reason for the squad to form. The first ten minutes should've been that reason. It should've been a politically sensitive reason that necessitates a deniable team of operatives. Then Waller comes in with the perfect plan and then she gets authorization to start Task Force X.
In the movie, we're immediately in Dossier mode and letting the US officials imagine what could be done with some of these people. That's weak.
Yeah, that was really frustrating.
Especially at the end when he's finally like "I'M GONNA GO DO SOMETHING BIG AND HEROIC" because he's more capable of achieving it than the navy guys Flagg sent....and then the navy guys do the thing instead of him anyway.
Apparently, she kills everyone working for the government who might notice, so anyone else is either too afraid of her or ignorant.
Sgt. Kabukiman
Banned
Yep, and Batman is fine with pulling some strings to protect her.
That's one of my pet peeves with superhero stories, I hate when the threat the heroes are fighting was created by them in the first place. I can't root for them in that case. See: Iron Man.
I get that here we're dealing with villains here (they mention that enough) but this entire movie is pointless. Waller is deploying her Task Force to cover up a mistake she made while creating said Task Force.
They should have gone with Joker as the villain like in Assault on Arkham.
Edit: I do agree that Viola Davis was perfect as Waller though, she just seemed pretty incompetent at her job.
I'm fine with the movie being about her mistakes, but it honestly felt like a detriment to her character that so much of the movie is about shit blowing up on her.
She's supposed to be this badass, ruthless, and infinitely competent spymaster, and the movie definitely wants to treat her as such, but almost everything she does goes wrong throughout the movie and she overlooks so many things that she comes off as hilariously terrible at her job the more you think about it. That she still comes off as one of the highlights of the movie itself is a testament to how awesome Viola Davis was with working with some really crappy material.
Sadly, that last bit is a statement that applies to a lot of the cast.
Sgt. Kabukiman
Banned
No, her worst line was the killer app joke.
I wanted to hit myself. The death of Rope Guy deserved a better pun.
TatteredHat
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Harley Quinn was the start of the movie for me, but I guess that's not saying too much.
Still an enjoyable watch but the plot was horrible, I did like what they did with Enchantress' ashen form though, looked a lot better than her twitchy heart-returned form.
Still an enjoyable watch but the plot was horrible, I did like what they did with Enchantress' ashen form though, looked a lot better than her twitchy heart-returned form.
I don't disagree that Waller is terrible at her job. Task Force X has always been a bad idea and I think the stories always try to poont that out. Waller is mot a good person. Flagg is the one that holds it all together, Waller is the one with the power and the awful ideas. That's Suicide Squad to me.
The biggest disappointment here for me is that this wasn't even a Suicide Squad mission movie. It was a bloated origin story where they don't even get to go overseas on a black ops mission. Fucking boo.
The biggest disappointment here for me is that this wasn't even a Suicide Squad mission movie. It was a bloated origin story where they don't even get to go overseas on a black ops mission. Fucking boo.
heliosRAzi
Banned
I don't disagree that Waller is terrible at her job. Task Force X has always been a bad idea and I think the stories always try to poont that out. Waller is mot a good person. Flagg is the one that holds it all together, Waller is the one with the power and the awful ideas. That's Suicide Squad to me.
The biggest disappointment here for me is that this wasn't even a Suicide Squad mission movie. It was a bloated origin story where they don't even get to go overseas on a black ops mission. Fucking boo.
That was another problem I had: the Suicide Squad is supposed to be thrown into politically sensitive incidents and they're main purpose is that they can be denied as having anything to do with the US. They're well known bad guys and they bring chaos and destruction. And yet they have a military escort.
I understand that with the way the story went, it wasn't much of an issue, but then the story shouldn't have went that way.
Sgt. Kabukiman
Banned
I don't disagree that Waller is terrible at her job. Task Force X has always been a bad idea and I think the stories always try to poont that out. Waller is mot a good person. Flagg is the one that holds it all together, Waller is the one with the power and the awful ideas. That's Suicide Squad to me.
The biggest disappointment here for me is that this wasn't even a Suicide Squad mission movie. It was a bloated origin story where they don't even get to go overseas on a black ops mission. Fucking boo.
Yeah, Waller was never a good person but she gets shit done.
Here, nothing actually happens.
She tries to put together a team, it doesn't work out, they clean up the mess, the team is disbanded.
As you said they should have had an actual objective, like stopping another villain or stealing something...
The sad thing is, just like BvS, I understand that making a good movie is incredibly difficult but here the flaws in the story are so incredibly obvious, it's almost impossible to have any trust in Warner after this.
I think rope guy must have died when I popped to the toilet as I don't remember seeing it
How did he go?
He tried to escape early in the mission after Boomerang talked him into it and Flagg blew his head off with his "killer app" as Harley put it.
A military escort that actively hurts the movie because they end up doing a lot of the heavy lifting.
I hate to keep harping on this, but it's horseshit that Killer Croc's biggest potential moment got jacked by some nameless SEALs.
Captain Boomerang trolled him into trying to run away, and Flagg activated his bomb.I think rope guy must have died when I popped to the toilet as I don't remember seeing it
How did he go?
Imagine if this movie was about Iran unearthing a Motherbox after the death of Superman.
Katana's potential moment also got jacked by Harley. Why is Katana there? Why couldn't she be the one that cut Enchantress' heart out through some teamwork?
I think rope guy must have died when I popped to the toilet as I don't remember seeing it
How did he go?
Neck bomb detonation courtesy of Flagg. He was trying to escape.
It's a shame we never really got to see him put that rope to use! He could have... I have no idea.
I think somebody said earlier in the thread, it's ridiculous that they didn't call on Flash to help them solve this. He could have zoomed in there and took out her heart in well, a flash.
I think somebody said earlier in the thread, it's ridiculous that they didn't call on Flash to help them solve this. He could have zoomed in there and took out her heart in well, a flash.
heliosRAzi
Banned
Did they really need bad guys to come save Waller? Seems like those military guys could've done it by themselves.
Lol, all Croc did was swim. He could've set the bomb and swam away fast enough given how fast he was swimming.
That would've been infinitely better. It's like Ayer didn't understand the purpose of the Suicide Squad.
Sgt. Kabukiman
Banned
Yeah, Waller has a folder with info about Flash and Aquaman but she chooses to use Boomerang and Harley Quinn instead? God, this movie is driving me crazy.
George Oscar Bluth II
Banned
Knowing Hollywood, it'll go something like:
"WITH THIS, WE HAVE THE POWER TO WIPE OUT AMEREECA. THIS WILL SURPASS THE STRENGTH OF ALL OUR NUCLEAR WEAPONS."
As an Iranian, nein danke.
That was one of the other problems.
They *almost* managed to avoid the MCU problem of "why isn't x person" helping here. Superman is dead. Batman and Wonder Woman weren't going to be all that well equipped to handle the situation. They almost cleared that hurdle...and then they showed Flash in the...er....flashback for Captain Boomerang.
Maybe he cleared people out of the city, which is why we have another DC movie where they lazily try and claim that the city they are fighting in is abandoned.
BronsonLee
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After watching Assault on Arkham again, it's crazy how much better it was as a Suicide Squad film in almost half the time. The action was much better done, which can be given since it was animated. Batman and Joker were used in a much more meaningful way, with their subplot interspaced throughout the film before eventually coming together at the end. The Squad itself was also much better done, with none of the members really felt wasted unlike most of the squad in the live action film. With the exception of KGBeast, who died just like Slipknot. The Squad's relationship felt much better as well, as they are all Villains who begrudgingly work with each other, they spend most of the time arguing, insulting and fighting each other. The camaderie between King Shark and Killer Frost was a nice contrast to that. The remaining members eventually try to kill each other when shit hits the fan at the end when Joker starts to antagonize them. The plot was also a more grounded heist story instead of a stereotypical defeat-the-villain to save the world story the movie was going for, which was much better done in my opinion, since it made Waller a straight-up villain to the Squad instead of an boring one like Enchantress.
Poodlestrike
Banned
Plausible deniability is the big reason to use villains; if they get caught, nobody's gonna believe that they're working for the government. Not to mention that Flash and Aquaman would be considerably harder to control.
Indeed, all they had to do was remaking Assault on Arkham :\
Yeah I can see that concern, but if it were politically grey, it could be about a company there unearthing it. No one knows what it is, the government doesn't. It's about to go on the black market. The pentagon knows what it is (see Cyborg scene in BvS) and want it off the market. Task Force X is sent in to either buy it or failing which steal it, while killing anyone who might know about where it cane from. Then it gets activated and everything goes to shit.
Sgt. Kabukiman
Banned
I think the problem is that this should never have been a save the world type movie. Because in that case it makes no sense to use a pychiatrist with a baseball bat and a guy with a bunch of boomerangs because the stakes are just too high. Who cares about plausible deniability at that point? The Squad is perfect or a heist movie or a kill mission but not a Justice League / Avengers story.
George Oscar Bluth II
Banned
Yeah, I'd like to see Waller try to restrain Aquaman long enough to put a bomb in his neck...
Bro, seriously, Waller is not going to fuck with Aquaman or Flash.
heliosRAzi
Banned
Don't forget that we needed a guy who can climb anything.
Oh god, those were another bad set-up. Harley wasn't even trying to hide the cellphone, yet no one noticed she's been communicating with the god damn Joker beside Deadshot?
BronsonLee
Member
You guys keep forgetting that the goal of the mission was just Waller trying to save her ass, not actually throw down with Enchantress. Flag triggered that one on his own
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