Have you ever been a gamer in the military? You seem concerned about something you don't have a clue about.
No Man's Sky - Early Impressions/Reviews-in-progress Thread
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Have you ever been a gamer in the military? You seem concerned about something you don't have a clue about.
Luckydog
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Don Mattrick from 2013 called. He wants you on his team......
Way to not refute his point.
Vincent Grayson
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Didn't you know? If you were opposed to an always-online console in 2013, you must also be upset about a Day One patch in 2016 or you're a hypocrite.
I dont see the point in reviewing a game with a substantial day 1 patch. Your experience will only be congruent to 1% or less of the people that will eventually own the game since they would have had to have gotten the game before release.
The only usefulness I see for this review is getting extra clicks since you're technically the "first review"
The only usefulness I see for this review is getting extra clicks since you're technically the "first review"
I don't see how it's so hard for people to understand this basic concept.
Glad the patch is out now. Curious when we'll see reviews begin to drop now.
More_Badass
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Mainly because significant day 1 updates are nothing new, especially among indie games. Not to start bringing Early Access into the mix, but those games will get entire final acts, new mechanics, improved performance, etc, in their 1.0 launch day update.
Luckydog
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In 2013, all we heard was how much of a monster MS was for requiring a minor check in every 24 hours because internet is ubiquitous. Now a primarily single player game requires a massive patch day 1 or its "not the real game" and no one cares? Come on, what about "all the military people on bases, submarine warriors, people in the arctic!".
Tal Shiar Agent
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So are we getting a fresh thread for when the real reviews start rolling in tonight?
if the game gets glowing reviews we ignore them too, right?
Everybody can get internet somewhere.
Get your console to patch the game, done.
Having to log in EVERY DAY though, is a completely other issue.
breakfuss
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Other reasons is the correct choice
Diprosalic
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Back when MS announced the XB1 and required 'checking in' online every 24 hours, the gaming community was in an uproar and it was absolutely unacceptable. Not saying I support MS's decision just that it is funny how the times have changed...or maybe its because its the more 'acceptable' company
Uh yeah 1 time download vs. literally having to be online every second you want to play something is exactly the same.
I am aware of the discussion at hand. I was asking what relevance XOne's pre-launch policies have when discussing the (non)patched reviews.
I am just using a past example where lack of internet access would have an effect on a groups ability to game.
Early access titles aren't sold at retailers though. I understand day one patches are not new but the majority of the time they focus on multi-player functionality not changing the storyline or core gameplay systems in a single player game.
Pestilence11
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What? One is a single patch and the other is required every single day. You're serious? lol
800mb is massive now? What is this, 2002?
NoctisVsStar
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Right? I'm relieved nowadays if patches are <5GB.
I mean an 8/10 isnt bad, but essentially yes.
Of course it's massive.
If you don't have internet, they will ship you an update on 560 of these
You need a massive drone to deliver that box
Unlabeled.Of course it's massive.
If you don't have internet, they will ship you an update on 560 of these
You need a massive drone to deliver that box
"Please insert disk 437 out of 520"
Luckydog
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Having a minor background check of a few kilobytes every day was meaningless. It was just something to get in an uproar about.....but I will get myself back on topic.
I don't see an issue with a day one patch. It just seems they are being disingenuous about it. Most companies are pretty clear about what they need and when they need it. The fact that they spent YEARS on a game and shipped it on disc but its broken. Now in the past month they figured it all out and its all fixed?
Luckydog
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Poor choice of words on my part. I was using massive in the sense of it feels like this patch "changes everything" to make the game right. Not in the MB size aspect.
the game on disc is not broken at all. it's a complete experience and even reviewed a 8/10
More_Badass
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1) It wasn't broken. It was perfectly playable. Some people already played it for 30+ hours
2) Obviously this wasn't content made in a single month. A month of dev got all the final touches working
Time to break out the big guns.Of course it's massive.
If you don't have internet, they will ship you an update on 560 of these
You need a massive drone to deliver that box
The reason why people gave crap to MS was mostly because of the fact that you were not going to really own the physical game you bought, the online check was part of the pile on policies people didn't like, everything people were mad about was rightly so, and comparing one day patch, to automatic check of licenses every day is a stretch.
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I have gone dark on this game, can this game be played offline?
Kremzeek
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I sure hope so. It will probably be 50 pages of garbage from this thread before any real reviews are released.
what about a thread for each review?
Time to break out the big guns.
Show off!
I was not born with a silver spoon in my mouth, you know
I had to strenuously work to avoid serious work to get where I am at now
at the airport, charging my phone for free
More_Badass
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Also I think the whole "completely change the way the game is played/adding half the game" is a big overstatement
Read the patch notes again. Besides the "three paths", everything is just building on and improving the existing mechanics and features. Changed the universe algorithm, adding to the creature generation, adding to planets and planet generation, expanding the trading and animal behavior and survival, etc.
Read the patch notes again. Besides the "three paths", everything is just building on and improving the existing mechanics and features. Changed the universe algorithm, adding to the creature generation, adding to planets and planet generation, expanding the trading and animal behavior and survival, etc.
Snkfanatic
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This comparison is rather strange....
Day 1 one time only download vs a check every 24 hours....
mordecaii83
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I can't believe people in this thread are comparing a day one patch with a mandatory check-in for a console that would render your entire gaming library useless if you did not perform this check-in.
I mean yeah, I'd prefer the game be finished on the disc, but I'll take a day one patch if it means more content and fixes to issues that may not have been known about initially.
Why are some people acting like improving a game in time for release is a bad thing? And why are patches that are released weeks after the game comes out apparently better than day-one patches?
Just wondering if people would feel the same about a game that's kind of a "darling of NeoGAF"? Does anyone look at The Witcher 3 and complain about all the amazing and awesome updates it's had that fixed a LARGE amount of bugs and flaws the game initially had? Did everyone review TW3 on its base 1.0 version? It had a 1.01 patch day one after all.
I mean yeah, I'd prefer the game be finished on the disc, but I'll take a day one patch if it means more content and fixes to issues that may not have been known about initially.
Why are some people acting like improving a game in time for release is a bad thing? And why are patches that are released weeks after the game comes out apparently better than day-one patches?
Just wondering if people would feel the same about a game that's kind of a "darling of NeoGAF"? Does anyone look at The Witcher 3 and complain about all the amazing and awesome updates it's had that fixed a LARGE amount of bugs and flaws the game initially had? Did everyone review TW3 on its base 1.0 version? It had a 1.01 patch day one after all.
Here are my reviews; I played the pre-patch and post-patch versions of the game
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pre patch: 7/10 (gameplayloops are a bit repetetive; glitchy, graphics could use some more polish)
post patch: 9/10 (varied gameplay, solid and impressive graphics, endless possibilities because of the continued support by Hello Games)
I hope this settles things a bit.
in my imagination
pre patch: 7/10 (gameplayloops are a bit repetetive; glitchy, graphics could use some more polish)
post patch: 9/10 (varied gameplay, solid and impressive graphics, endless possibilities because of the continued support by Hello Games)
I hope this settles things a bit.
Well, it is kind of the first time I see people go "Don't review the game before the patch!!!"
Hope so, this has really turned into something else entirely. It's not a bad discussion, but it also has barely anything to do with the review(s) at this point.
How in the world are these two things comparable?
More_Badass
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Definitely. I'll start one if someone doesn't first
mordecaii83
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That's always been the sentiment, review the game that's available to players the day of release. If the patch is immediately available, review the game with it. If it's on day two or whatever, then review the base game.
Fixed that up for accuracy.
Glass Shark
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Imagine when actual reviews come out. GAF will literally melt.
afternoon delight
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We have to hit twenty before anything of substance is released first!
lol plebs 27 pages getwithit
Luckydog
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Do you deny that the patch makes a massive difference? even the Devs say its a major change. A single user review a few posts up changed his opinion 2 full points based on the patch. It is a massive patch as it makes a huge impact on gameplay clearly from users and from the Devs point of view.
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