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[SPOILER THREAD] Suicide Squad

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I know, I was saying that cuz thats one of the things that wasn't in the movie. c'mon man

Hey, Bronson owned that shit. Now he's a flaming troll holding back the Incubus looking motherfuckers and letting them know two consecutive DC bombs gonna fuck their machine up.
 
Is there any Incubus concept art? I don't know why they settled on making him the Destroyer from Thor.

Oh God, let's hope they don't pull a Thor 2 and have SS/Joker team up to fight an elf looking mptherfucketsmotherfuckers in the sequel, played by renowned Scottist actor Jason Connery.

Although actually...
 
Is there any Incubus concept art? I don't know why they settled on making him the Destroyer from Thor.
I dunno if you saw their post but a user on here who was close to the film said there was another version of him that was some horror fusion of the bodies he absorbed. But the design changed weekly till we got what we have now.
 
I miss our old squabbles I miss how angry he got! You remember the good old days Harley! When we took care of that little birdy! And it cuts to Batman holding Joker by the collar as a building is on fire in the background (probably Wayne manor) and he says you've crossed the line i'm gonna hurt you joker. And his response is "Not the face! I damage easily!" And it cuts back to the bar scene

There's no way that's actual dialogue.

I mean yeah, SS had a rough script, but that is way worse than anything in the movie.
 
Oh God, let's hope they don't pull a Thor: The Dark World and have SS/Joker team up to fight an elf looking mptherfucketsmotherfuckers in the sequel, played by renowned Scottist actor Jason Connery.

Although actually...
Fixed.

Though, it's the DCCU, anything can happen.
I dunno if you saw their post but a user on here who was close to the film said there was another version of him that was some horror fusion of the bodies he absorbed. But the design changed weekly till we got what we have now.

That would've worked out so much better, I feel. I never got how a clump of bodies turned into something metallic.
 
Hi guys

Just saw this last night. Can't really say I was pleased :(

Anyway.

I posted some impressions at the other thread but will see quickly if they've been addressed here or not.

In general, I thought it was a mess but when they got their tone right, I can see where they were trying to go and that was nice. Too bad the instances were far and few in between throughout the movie.

I am still rooting for dc to get ww right though.
 
I was so happy to see Scott Eastwood was just a background soldier guy and not revealed to be Dick Grayson undercover.

Also I'm guessing Harley's anger at Diablo and telling him to own up to the fact he killed his kids was something to do with the fact that she's stated in her introduction screen as being an accomplice to the murder of Robin who had to be a teenager when killed so maybe she's gone through something similar with denial towards that.
Honestly bro that to much story ark for the DCU to handle ;)

Guys this movie fucking sucked and it good have been good. Hate Snyder films all you want at least he doesn't do quick takes the whole fucking time. I will take slow mo before that type of action any day.

Also is it just me or did it seem like they never stayed in the same place for more then 2 minutes until the end. Their were no actual scenes and all their was, was quick cuts to other trailer cuts. Really felt weird.

The reason I'm so disappointed in this was that this film had so much potential. You have the director of fury a great film about a team of soilders teaming up. Their were great interactions between characters with real drama. This film just felt like trying to fit as much one liners as possible into 2 long long hours.

Also this movie had 3 scenes that could have been good but only 1 was. Dead shots assassination at the beginning but then it cut before the action was over. Boomerangs leaving but then he fucking showed up again to be part of the "family". The one good scene was when batman was atacking the joker because they actually finished a fucking scene.

Terrible movie and yet my 2 friends thought it was the best DC movie ever including dark knight :(
 
Honestly bro that to much story ark for the DCU to handle ;)

Guys this movie fucking sucked and it good have been good. Hate Snyder films all you want at least he doesn't do quick takes the whole fucking time. I will take slow mo before that type of action any day.

Also is it just me or did it seem like they never stayed in the same place for more then 2 minutes until the end. Their were no actual scenes and all their was, was quick cuts to other trailer cuts. Really felt weird.

The reason I'm so disappointed in this was that this film had so much potential. You have the director of fury a great film about a team of soilders teaming up. Their were great interactions between characters with real drama. This film just felt like trying to fit as much one liners as possible into 2 long long hours.

Also this movie had 3 scenes that could have been good but only 1 was. Dead shots assassination at the beginning but then it cut before the action was over. Boomerangs leaving but then he fucking showed up again to be part of the "family". The one good scene was when batman was atacking the joker because they actually finished a fucking scene.

Terrible movie and yet my 2 friends thought it was the best DC movie ever including dark knight :(

That is because people all have different opinions
 
For all the shit I give BvS, at least it had some decent action. The warehouse fight was awesome. Suicide Squad doesn't have anything that stands out. The ending fight is only memorable because Diablo turned into an Aztec god. Deadshot is played up as this awesome shooter using creative ways to kill his targets. They showcase that with the first person he kills in this movie, but then he never does anything like that afterwards. Just wasted potential.
 
The first teaser trailer suggested a very different tone for this movie: dark, somber, maybe more serious-minded? The second full-on trailer was a complete 180, rock music, rapid cutting, more energy etc.

There is no doubt that Ayer's original cut was a lot more like BvS and the studio hacked the shit out of it.

https://youtu.be/381uoKMTt_8
 
For all the shit I give BvS, at least it had some decent action. The warehouse fight was awesome. Suicide Squad doesn't have anything that stands out. The ending fight is only memorable because Diablo turned into an Aztec god. Deadshot is played up as this awesome shooter using creative ways to kill his targets. They showcase that with the first person he kills in this movie, but then he never does anything like that afterwards. Just wasted potential.

WAT? after deadshot got serious he single handely stopped the remaining horde of enchantress zombies, even the special ops team and Flagg realized the he is in another fucking level.

Red Letter Media nicely pointed out how basically everything was her fault and it made her look like "a dumbass".

I liked her characterization but she was pretty stupid

i think that's the whole point, he want people to believe she is a fucking mastermind or something, but soon she realizes that metahumans shouldnt be taken slightly
 
WAT? after deadshot got serious he single handely stopped the remaining horde of enchantress zombies, even the special ops team and Flagg realized the he is in another fucking level.

Nothing really visually interesting with Deadshot shooting stuff while standing still. It's boring.
 
yes, because they are aiming for Flagg, since Enchantress wants him, Deadshot even mentions this when he finds out about her

So they are pretty mindless if they run right past the dude who is gunning them all down because they are zombines capable of doing one thing at a time? In fact, if I understand your correctly Will Smith was under absolutely no threat whatsoever during this scene?
 
So they are pretty mindless if they run right past the dude who is gunning them all down because they are zombines capable of doing one thing at a time? In fact, if I understand your correctly Will Smith was under absolutely no threat whatsoever during this scene?

once deadshot got serious none passed through him so i dont understand what are you arguing, he was never under threat, they couldnt even reach him
 
Wasn't Enchantress's heart rigged with a proximity bomb? Wasn't that the implication when she approached it when Waller was asleep? So why didn't her heart explode when zombie goons approached it or tried to open it?
 
I thought that scene was awkward, too, to be honest. I got what they wanted to do... "deadshot is an awesome guy who doesn't cut and run as flag have taunted him to do" ... But yeah, it was a bit of an uninspired way to go about it. The one in his flash back at the beginning was much more interesting.

The cgi horde was also so weak? Just one baseball bat swing and they go down, so I never felt that they were in any real danger during the mindless horde assault. Reminds me of ultron's clones in AoU. Yawnfest.
 
Wasn't Enchantress's heart rigged with a proximity bomb? Wasn't that the implication when she approached it when Waller was asleep? So why didn't her heart explode when zombie goons approached it or tried to open it?

Yeah, I thought that too. Not sure what happened with that. Gotta say, Delevingne was very goofy as both June Moone and the Enchantress. I figure she'd be more menacing/interesting from the trailers.
 
Nothing really visually interesting with Deadshot shooting stuff while standing still. It's boring.
It's Deadshot, the best marksman out there. He doesn't need gun kata to get the job done. The assassination, target practice, and horde scenes were perfect showcases of his abilities.
 
Hi guys

Just saw this last night. Can't really say I was pleased :(

Anyway.

I posted some impressions at the other thread but will see quickly if they've been addressed here or not.

In general, I thought it was a mess but when they got their tone right, I can see where they were trying to go and that was nice. Too bad the instances were far and few in between throughout the movie.

I am still rooting for dc to get ww right though.
Ah, I wanted you to like it.=O

Yeah the movie has a lot of issues.
 
I mean that's Waller's MO

She is like always cleaning up after her own mess
She is just good at talking big and getting info on other people.

I mean ya, but in this film she seemed genuinely stupid. The SSquad here was so badly conceived, and her picks for the team were purely idiotic. The character used to be about "The ends justify the means", but in this movie, it's like "Dumbass government official ruins everything. Fear her." Movie wants us to act like this character is worthy of respect, but she's pretty much a loser.
 
That final battle, man. -_-

Hand to hand combat (or sword to sword, as it were) when you got straight up MAGIC? Enchantress? Why, girl? Why why why.

Diablo was really the only credible meta-threat to Enchantress. I guess you could say Katana's sword, being able to cut through the magic, was also another threat, but it and Katana were so poorly established in the the prior 90% of the film that Harley being able to intuit a last-ditch strategy using that sword felt like a blindside. But, whatever.

I'm glad we decided to wait until discount Tuesday to catch this.I'll get into other thoughts later but overall it was a mess.
 
It's Deadshot, the best marksman out there. He doesn't need gun kata to get the job done. The assassination, target practice, and horde scenes were perfect showcases of his abilities.

Doesn't need to be gunkata, but it needs to be more dynamic than standing on a car. Or more trick shots like the assassination he did in the beginning of the movie.
 
I mean ya, but in this film she seemed genuinely stupid. The SSquad here was so badly conceived, and her picks for the team were purely idiotic. The character used to be about "The ends justify the means", but in this movie, it's like "Dumbass government official ruins everything. Fear her." Movie wants us to act like this character is worthy of respect, but she's pretty much a loser.
Welcome to Suicide Squad.

Now we're just nitpicking the entire concept.
 
Ah, I wanted you to like it.=O

Yeah the movie has a lot of issues.

Uwaaaah timuuu

I wanted to like it too! I kept trying, as I sit there and watch, to tell myself that it was good but I couldn't enjoy it :<

I hope we will get a different cut. I know the director had said otherwise but I think there might be a better movie in there if it was cut differently. It won't fix the major issues but it may fix some of the minor ones.

I really rooted for them to pull this right :( I enjoyed MoS and parts of BvS so I felt dc was due a hit. But I guess it's not to be with SS.

Oh that enchantress heart briefcase &#128188;! Yes, how did it suddenly lost its proximity bomb? I mean they took Amanda Waller with them, but it should still have detonated when there are unauthorised people in its proximity, right? So weird!
 
Welcome to Suicide Squad.

Now we're just nitpicking the entire concept.

I'm really not. Suicide Squad doesn't make sense in the DC cinematic universe because they are conceived to fight meta-humans and world ending threats, and in this movie, that world ending threat was chosen by Waller.

Compare that to Batman Assault on Arkham where Harley was chosen because of her deep knowledge of Arkham Asylum rather than because she's "crazier" and more "fearless" than the Joker (something that was said in the movie not even 30 seconds before it was disproven by what we saw). SSquad makes more sense in dealing with more street level threats and darker criminal world dealings.

The problem with the SSquad in the movie is that they did absolutely nothing that could not be accomplished by trained military officers. It turned out that simple explosions were enough to take out Enchantress and her goon brother, why did they even need the squad then? Just makes Waller look even stupider. You need something to compete with metahumans? Round up actual metahumans.
 
Doesn't need to be gunkata, but it needs to be more dynamic than standing on a car. Or more trick shots like the assassination he did in the beginning of the movie.

Honestly I agree. Like it was an impressive showcase of his skills, but it wasn't shot that well. There are multiple shots where you're watching him far away from behind, awkwardly framed standing on top of a car shoot at putties you can't even see. That scene in particular was one that stood out to me as missed potential even while watching it.
 
i think that's the whole point, he want people to believe she is a fucking mastermind or something, but soon she realizes that metahumans shouldnt be taken slightly


I mean, I guess, but the Wall isn't someone that would've taken metahumans lightly to begin with.
 
Just remember, he starts with this:



Temper your expectations. He "loved" the current cut of Suicide squad.
Huh, yeah... Still, having just seen SS a second time and confirmed my impression that it's a huge mess with some good pieces scattered throughout, I think its main problem is the editing, closely followed by the writing. The movie is actually decently filmed and even the worst performances aren't a serious liability. No, it's the way everything is mashed together in a senseless order and further spoiled with unfitting music that makes it so broken. Well, that and the major issues with character motivations and basic plot logic.

OK, so maybe that earlier cut wouldn't have fixed the bad writing, but at least it would have presented a flawed story more coherently.
 
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