Arby 'n' the Chief
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Welp... Joe's game just crashed again
his review will be glorious LOL
his review will be glorious LOL
No Man's Sky - Early Impressions/Reviews-in-progress Thread
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BlitzBlake
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I'd rather the reviewer tell me the most about the product as possible, including whether what the games includes is worth the asking price. If a review says 'Amazing game, but only last 1 hour and cost $100' well I guess you know that that's your game then. I'd rather know it's an amazing game, but for me, personally, I'll wait until it's discounted, since I'm not stacking those hundreds like some.
How hard is it to read the review and work it out?
Vindicator
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Should stop reading about the game here @work until I'm back home and can continue playing.
Imagine getting the 100 dollar cheesesteak on sale for only 50 dollars. That would be some good shit.
WrenchNinja
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Price does matter with the content and quality given. Some of y'all must wipe your ass with hundred dollar bills acting like it doesn't.
But reviews aren't only about how much fun you have with it. One of their main purposes is to advise the viewer if the game is worth buying (price), and well as worth playing (time). Some reviewers even use a buy/sale/rent/avoid metric, which from what you're saying would be a completely invalid metric to use, as buy/rent/sale should all be equivalent when cost isn't factored in.
I guess it just boils down to personal opinion, but the base price of a game doesn't really affect my decision to buy a product, I want to know if I'll have fun with it, I don't really care if it's a $60 game or a $20 game, if I think I might enjoy it I buy it.
That said, once I've decided to buy X, I always try and find the cheapest price for it I can!
Foxhound286
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Joe can't catch a break.
Opus Angelorum
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Looks like they've put up a post about some issues and workarounds here - http://www.no-mans-sky.com/2016/08/issues/
I'd imagine price to be of interest to anyone really. It's just that not everyone places the same importance on the same pricepoints (maybe you just have more money than the average gamer?). If all games were priced like Neo-Geo carts back in the day (~$300), then maybe you'd feel differently about many of the purchases you currently make? I sure as hell would. Shenmue 3 for $300? Sure. Mortal Kombat X for $300? LOL, hell no.
Vindicator
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If he's angry getting interrupted by crashes means he enjoys the game.
metareferential
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I don't get the "advise to the buyer" angle on reviews.
A review is just that, a report on what the reviewer thinks about something. It should try, ideally, to explain why the game could be fun/worth to some gamers and why it doesn't work for others. It shouldn't say if I should buy or rent or pass the game. That's up to me.
Instead, we have reviewers that only care about their point of view, and most of the time they don't even bother explain what the hell is that (and users who know them are either blindly accepting everything "Jeff is never wrong" or completely hate them "Angry Joe is an idiot"; examples chosen randomly).
And this is a general issue, I'm not talking about NMS nor am I referencing a particular reviewer / youtuber / whatever. I still haven't read a single paragraph about the game.
We get stuff like "this feature is boring / repetitive". Which is fine, as an opinion, but it's worthless for another player trying to figure it out.
Maybe I'm spoiled from professional book reviews and academic reviews, but I'd really like that same approach.
Not to say that all reviews are like that, but with highly anticipated or hyped games it generally boils down to that. With lines such as "it fails to deliver on its promises" or "confirms its fame" and so on.
texhnolyze
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Maybe Joe's PS4 is a faulty?
XANDER CAGE
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Come the hell on, guys. We're getting into some weird territory here. There is more to a game than broad descriptions and I think you all know that. This is like saying "well gee, how come Die Another Day got shredded by reviewers but The Spy Who Came In From The Cold didn't? Golly, they really just must hate spy movies."
There is so much more to games than a synopsis.
I remember paying £70 for Street fighter on the SNES way back when, also remember paying £80 for Gran Turismo 1 on import.
If I want something I buy it, the price of it (within certain bounds obviously!) isn't a particular consideration, games are rarely more expensive than $60, so it's not an issue for me.
If that's the case, there are a LOT of faulty PS4's out in the wild.
For the bolded... that's exactly what they are doing though?
It's up to you whether you buy the game, or even if you were to bother taking the time to play a copy you may get from PS+ sometime down the line. The reviewer is only giving an opinion on both if they feel it's worth taking the time to play the game at all, and then if it's worth paying the asking price to play the game. Both are just opinions, and you shouldn't have much difficulty mapping either to your own judgement.
7DollarHagane
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That's the worst excuse for the criticism I've heard yet.
It comes down to this.
The diversity in planets, life, and visuals is more limited than expected. After a dozen planets or so it starts to be small variations on a few different themes.
The actual gameplay is limited to resource farming and menu interaction, with some combat that feels u satisfying due to absolutely bare bones AI.
The criticisms of the game are that neither the procedural generation of the games visuals nor the gameplay are good enough or enjoyable enough to overcome each other's shortcomings.
That's not even mentioning the bugs or frequent random crashes people are dealing with.
Some people are more easily impressed by different colored planets that are all basically pretty similar.
Probably, here's his review/impression on the game:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mgfxo3CLdNM&ab_channel=videogamedunkey
And that's fine. Then you parse out the part of the reviews that doesn't pertain to you, much like someone with near limitless time may ignore complaints that a game is grindy, or doesn't respect your time. $60 isn't a huge sum of money... but if I was paying that for absolutely everything I play, it'd get prohibitive to me very quickly. If games like the original Portal, or Dear Esther, or even something like Geometry Wars, hit retail for $60, I would want reviews to make me aware that I may not be happy paying the same amount for them as I am Halo 3. You don't have to take those opinions as gospel if historically you know this to not be important to you.
Ceaseless Discharge
Banned
Simply no excuse for releasing such a buggy, crashy game. How did this mess ever get through cert?
Going to be a long time before anyone trusts Sean Molyneux again.
Going to be a long time before anyone trusts Sean Molyneux again.
SlickShoes
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I suppose it's only easily impressed people that will like this game, the bloody idiots that they are!
Personally I have had no crashes and no bugs, I enjoy the gameplay loop and the planets I have visited in the systems I have been in have been varied and interesting in different ways.
It does have plenty negatives but the planets are not just colour swaps.
The game is as described apart from a bit too much inventory management, at least the planets aren't like Elite where it's just a big rock and all you can do is ride your buggy around and get stuck in a hole.
Kageshinzo
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That's probably because Elite didn't advertise itself as a planetary exploration game. It is a trading and combat space sim and in that regard, it seems to deliver solidly and from what I see, shits on NMS from orbit.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
God forbid people like something darn the easily impressed
Why are defenders of overhyped games too afraid to admit that the game they like playing might just be mediocre at best compared to its contemporaries? This shit happened a lot when Battlefront launched. Its incredibly shallow but thats ok if the person had their fun.
In a market with so many products to choose from its no surprise that some arent willing to waste their time and money on games like this.
In a market with so many products to choose from its no surprise that some arent willing to waste their time and money on games like this.
I'm finding the contrast with how he approaches negative impressions in Street Fighter V threads a little astonishing tbh, lol.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
Its all bias everybody does it. Absolutely nothing wrong with thinking a game sucks because maybe it just does, but taking the piss on people that enjoy will always be a childish tactic.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
Definitely random, doesn't bother me but ill be damned if it isnt a criticism.
Yautja_Warrior
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I wouldn't say its pointless, I got NMS because I enjoyed Elite, so not a totally different demographic. They are both about space exploration, combat, mining and trading but NMS adds walking around on planets, cataloguing plants, elements, alien lifeforms and a main quest to get to the centre of the universe.
They are different in some ways of course, Elite has much more complex space physics and a deeper trading system ect but the core is very similar.
Nothing is logical, extremely hot or cold planets with flora and fauna that just shouldn't survive there, barren planets populated with herbivores.
I guess it could all work with 'moon magic', but I was under the impression that the universe would be bound by coherent laws and rules.
Yeah, which is a shame. I expected an exploration type game but found there's hardly anything worth exploring. There are some nice looking planets but many are very similar. Sometimes creatures look interesting but yet again most are similar. I've probably been to 10 or more planets and feel i've already seen everything.
Ollie Pooch
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Funnily enough if this was $20 bucks, I'd probably be a lot more forgiving but I'd also probably just stop playing by now because of the price point.
Instead it cost a lot,so now I'm trying to justify the cost by playing it more to get some worth out of it. It's a losing battle
Instead it cost a lot,so now I'm trying to justify the cost by playing it more to get some worth out of it. It's a losing battle
7DollarHagane
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It's actually very consistent. Gameplay should be valued over content.
Sf5 has very few minor complaints in the gameplay department. Many meaningless complaints about "content".
No man's sky has many complaints in the gameplay. The appeal is all superficial visual reasons. It pleases people who just want "content" I guess.
It's always been true that a game with a good hook or visuals that doesn't back it up with good gameplay or mechanics will still be bad. Content does not matter. That has always been my argument.
I do feel pretty sorry for Sean and the rest of the devs at Hello Games, I understand it's a small company and they have to be cautious financially but reading they are hiring a new QA team and setting up ticketed support 2 days after launch says to me they've underinvested in the infrastructure a game that got air time on Late Night is clearly going to need.
They probably had very little money left. They got paid on shipping. And they shipped likely millions. Now they have a lot of money.
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