IndieGogo - Windows 10 GPD Handheld -299$ "A Laptop Fitting in Your Pocket"
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New update on the Chinese GPD WIN crowdfunding site:
"Players, Hello, everyone, the latest addition to active cooling air cooling design, also joined the CNC integrated copper heat sink, so that optimum thermal effects."
Should help with heating even more before it was thin aluminum, further improvements is always awesome this will be the first Indie/Kickstarter project I will have backed, hoping the build doesn't become too big.
"Players, Hello, everyone, the latest addition to active cooling air cooling design, also joined the CNC integrated copper heat sink, so that optimum thermal effects."
Should help with heating even more before it was thin aluminum, further improvements is always awesome this will be the first Indie/Kickstarter project I will have backed, hoping the build doesn't become too big.
Pirate warriors 3
http://tieba.baidu.com/p/4721813442
Shooting game I can't remember the name of.
http://tieba.baidu.com/p/4721801164
Fallout 4
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTY3Nzk2Mjk0OA==.html
DrROBschiz
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Do we not have a local based tester that can upload to youtube?
LOL, awful. Really hope it's the settings, though. They need to try it on low-spec mode with the resolution scaling set way down.
DrROBschiz
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I mean Im not looking to play many CURRENT games with this
Its all about the best possible performance i can expect so I can play emulated games, fan games, Indies, etc...
I do like what I am seeing so far though. Seems like Ill get a decent bang for my buck on this
Its all about the best possible performance i can expect so I can play emulated games, fan games, Indies, etc...
I do like what I am seeing so far though. Seems like Ill get a decent bang for my buck on this
ThanksMafia 2
Yeah these videos are useful for seeing how games do in general but without knowing the settings it doesn't tell us much.
From googling I guess SF V requires 6gb of ram so I feel doubtful of it running well enough to be competitive but until people get their hands on it and we know its tested with settings at bare minimum who knows, might be just as unplayable or might get lucky.
I'm pretty sure fallout 4 requires 8gb of ram so that running no matter how poorly is kinda amazing in my book.
DrROBschiz
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GPD Win is getting what?
4GB?
Any way to boost it to 8?
4GB?
Any way to boost it to 8?
broncobuster
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Any videos of Dolphin?
FFX PCSX2 appeared to be running at 75%, unsure of what the settings were. Having trouble deciding if I should go for this or get the cheaper XD.
FFX PCSX2 appeared to be running at 75%, unsure of what the settings were. Having trouble deciding if I should go for this or get the cheaper XD.
Nah-- I have it running on my Surface Pro 4 (i5) with 4GB of RAM. I can run the game at 60 FPS with the resolution at 1024x768, low settings, and resolution scaling set to 50, in low-spec mode. It's not the most attractive-looking game with the settings this low, but it works great for when I want to play somewhere outside of my gaming room.
Tizoc
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Is this one real or did it turn out to be a fake?
https://pyra-handheld.com/boards/th...-gpd-win-competitor.77205/page-3#post-1372711
Also could someone elaborate on what GPU this system will use? Can't tell if it is NVidia or otherwise >_>;
EDIT: Oh it uses Intel HD Graphics, I guess this is good enough for pre-PSOne era games huh?
https://pyra-handheld.com/boards/th...-gpd-win-competitor.77205/page-3#post-1372711
Also could someone elaborate on what GPU this system will use? Can't tell if it is NVidia or otherwise >_>;
EDIT: Oh it uses Intel HD Graphics, I guess this is good enough for pre-PSOne era games huh?
longlivegaming
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It runs on integrated Intel graphics (if you had to make a comparison it would be around HD 2000-3000 performance). It should easily run PC games pre-2005 with some exceptions for more current games.
Well I suppose one theoretically could change it to 8gb's of ram but that is way out of most people's capability.
While usually when people make suggestions, even over the top ridiculous ones on indiegogo Kendy will say thats hard and unlikely to happen but he'll send feedback to the team but when people ask for 8gb of ram he'll flat out say that's not going to be changed for the crowdfunded ones.
Judging by their past clamshell android consoles they'll probably release one with 8gb of ram and twice the storage but thats just speculation at this point.
They might come out with a upgraded version a couple months after october or they might never do that.
Well glad to be corrected on this albeit the i5 does have better integrated graphics.
Guess I'll check youtube for the surface 3 and see how it does on that.
I'd suggest avoiding that until they actually have a real prototype and not a different companies tablet and gamepad mashed into a shell, they still claim they're gonna be shipping them in march but if anything they've just started work on the pub at most, assuming it is real it'll be a long time before anything comes of it.
I mean if its real I'll gladly buy at full price instead of the discounted current one but until they actually have their own prototype I'd stay clear of it.
Both use the same cpu with the same integrated graphics but its come a long ways, you can see gameplay videos scattered throughout these past couple pages for what it can do.
DrROBschiz
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A device like this would likely have the RAM soder directly to the chip so yeah....
So, this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0LQztpTtZo
Looks awful...like SFV for 3DS....but I'd happily play it this way on the smaller GPD Win screen if the specs are similar and it runs this way.
Yeah that's what I was trying to say although I worded it poorly.
I mean, I have the equipment one would need at work to replace a chip so could I do it?
Yes.
Do I want to do delicate surgery like that that could damage the board?
Nope nope nope.
Unfortunately it'll probably be worse, was talking about the non-pro surface 3 which has the atom Z8700 and spec-wise is basically identical to the Win.
Going by notebookcheck the surface pro's i5 had the Intel hd 4400 which has 20 execution units and 200-1100 MHz speeds whereas the Z8750 has 16 execution units and 200-600 MHz speeds.
More execution units is always better, which you can see with some videos of prototype Win units playing the same game with one video of the unit with the Z8500 with 12 EU's and then the Z8700 with 16 EU's, but the thing here is throttling.
GPD seems to have one of the best designed cooling solutions that could be had in a small package so if it can continue running without throttling it might be able to keep going strong long after the surface throttles.
That being said, I don't know how long the surface's can go without throttling and since there aren't any active cooled GPD prototypes in tester hands AFAIK yet we have nothing to compare it to currently so this is all speculation.
Its probably best to assume it'll struggle to play most non-indie games from the past couple years.
I think SF V works with Steam OS according to google unless something changed since it was announced so you may want to look into Smach Z as well.
They had a failed kickstarter last December which is probably related to not having an actual prototype but they pulled it and got funding from private backers to make a working prototype which they intend to introduce at gamescon this month and right after that launch a new kickstarter.
It runs steam os.
http://www.smachz.com/newsletter/2016-08-01.html
Not sure whether the shape and design appeals to you though.
I don't like how it looks personally and its not exactly pocketable but these types of handheld devices has always been a dream of mine so I'll back it as well assuming everything looks good and nothing seems funky about the campaign once it launches.
longlivegaming
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You should keep your expectations low for PCSX2 performance. At best only a handful of 3D games will be playable (as in full speed). Valkyrie Profile 2 is one of the more demanding games so it's practically guaranteed to not be playable on the GPD Win.
Skimming back the last couple pages makes me realize how much I've kinda taken over this thread...
I probably post too much.
Anyways, a guy over on dingoonity has a Beelink BT7 he bought to test games.
Essentially a mini desktop pc with the Z8700 and 4gb of ram.
Basically identical specs to the Win.
He is testing a lot of games using the Beelink to get a rough idea of how they'll play on the Win.
Past 2 days he's uploaded 18 videos of different games ranging from pc games to a bunch of gamecube games running on dolphin.
Probably worth subscribing to him if you wanna follow along and get an idea of what it should play.
He usually shows the settings he used and has something similar to fraps running in a corner of the screen.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgqMXdtCozqBAtRUlb84IJg/videos
I probably post too much.
Anyways, a guy over on dingoonity has a Beelink BT7 he bought to test games.
Essentially a mini desktop pc with the Z8700 and 4gb of ram.
Basically identical specs to the Win.
He is testing a lot of games using the Beelink to get a rough idea of how they'll play on the Win.
Past 2 days he's uploaded 18 videos of different games ranging from pc games to a bunch of gamecube games running on dolphin.
Probably worth subscribing to him if you wanna follow along and get an idea of what it should play.
He usually shows the settings he used and has something similar to fraps running in a corner of the screen.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgqMXdtCozqBAtRUlb84IJg/videos
I backed this back in April and can't wait for it to arrive. It's been impressive how transparent GPD has been and keeping the backers up to date with videos and progress. Should be an awesome system for portable PC gaming when it comes out. Doesn't need to run the latest and greatest for me. SFIV running at good speeds like it does is enough to make it worth it in my opinion.
SFIV running at good speeds like it does is enough to make it worth it in my opinion.broncobuster
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Impressed with how Super Mario Strikers and NSMB Wii will potentially run. If I had to guess based on experience, Four Swords Adventures is another game that'd be playable on this thing.
I'd like to see more tests with pre-2005 games. I'm not planning on many games of the last decade beyond the occasional indie.
DrROBschiz
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I dont see why not
The Abominable Snowman
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My much less impressive tablet plays Skyrim hovering about 30 with a few mods.
Check out Skyrim on the Surface 3 vids on youtube, and it has a slower clocked cpu and gpu than this.
So yeah, Morrowind or Oblivion should be OK.
It can play Morrowind, the question is can you play a game with mouse & keyboard interface with gamepad controls?
DrROBschiz
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Yup.
I used to create an xpadder profile back in the day for games that hadnt joined the xbox controller support train
Wasnt morrowind on 360? Surprised pc morrowind doesnt natively support controllers
This should become a great portable New Vegas device. Maybe with enough graphical downgrade mods we can get Fallout 4 running on it too at a decent framerate.
I'm starting to get hyped for this device. I'm still going to wait for it to release though before getting it.
There was a recent video of someone playing New Vegas on the spec on that youtube channel. Should be able to handle a good amount of things if set to lowest spec possible. If not I know there are some low spec hacks out there that can get even GTA V running on a low end laptop so they should work for the GPD Win all the same. Exciting times seeing all this and can't wait to get my GPD WIN. 
Nope, game is a bit older than that I'm afraid. There was a later Xbox 1 version, which was probably adapted to controllers in some fashion.
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Forget that. Could this be a portable Halo 1 machine that I've always wanted?
Pancakes R Us
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WOW. Eek.
Is it possible to stil back this? Is there still a chance it won't come out? Also, anyone have any experience of build quality...perhaps GPD Android owners? It's nice that this is quite powerful, but don't want to end up with shoddy build quality. Finally, is their customer service/support any good?
purseowner
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You can still preorder it at the discounted price through Indiegogo. If you look at the GPD XD, the company has an excellent track record. Someone who has one of those will be able to answer your question about customer support better than I can, but I've been impressed in their transparency regarding the product's progress and development.
I own the GPD XD it's a good device and the quality is pretty good not Vita levels of quality in terms of its Dpad and Buttons but I find the device more sturdy and less flimsy then my N3dsXL best "Android handheld" you can get.
What's amazing about the company is that they are constantly improving the device from its original IndieGoGo pitch, battery, graphics, heatsink have all been improved which they didn't have to but it's certainly convinced me to buy one, i like supporting good companies especially now that the device is more or less what I have wanted handhelds to become in a long time.
Haven't had a problem with the device so can't comment on the customer service but they seem to be fairly open to the backers.
Also keep in mind any videos your currently seeing of the device is the prototype, the one that doesn't have the upgrades graphics heatsink or fan so expect games to run alittle bit better when it comes out.
Mihos
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The fan doesn't necessarily mean it will be loud. Most people don't even know their shield portable has a fan it it. If you are choosing down throttling over active cooling, the don't expect to play those games on any system. Your not going to get some new breakthrough on thermal profiling for a couple hundred dollars.
I am pretty much looking at only the low spec RPG maker type games, but will play around with PS2 emulation since none of m other hand helps even come close for that. Also will be cool as a backup pc on trips. I have a sony pico projector I travel with now that would work well with this
HowardRoark
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Indiegogo page says to include your phone number in shipping address. How do you do that? There's no field for it.
DrROBschiz
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Put it in the Address 2 box
HowardRoark
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I was thinking that, but what if I have an actual second address line? Mash it in address 1?
DrROBschiz
Member
Just make sure your number is in there somewhere
Use spaces so it stands out i guess?
Looks like some PS2 emulation goodness got posted this morning. It's a start at least since says didnt have time to adjust many settings. Just make me want this thing in my hands already!!!
https://youtu.be/b-h5E2jxG-0
https://youtu.be/b-h5E2jxG-0
Formatting is screwed up on my phone but gpd has a poll on case design with 24 potential choices.
I have no clue how to do anything on that site but at least you can see which proposal is on top and likely to win.
http://tieba.baidu.com/p/4726824529?pn=0&
Looks like they are moving into the accessory stage.
I have no clue how to do anything on that site but at least you can see which proposal is on top and likely to win.
http://tieba.baidu.com/p/4726824529?pn=0&
Looks like they are moving into the accessory stage.
Pancakes R Us
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If I make a purchase for $330 on IndieGoGo, there's still a chance that this product will never see the light of day, right? Will refunds happen if this is the case?
They already have working prototypes and GPD is a company with competent products on the market, they aren't vaporware like that other portable machine.
paolo11
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Stable 60fps?
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