Star Wars: Rogue One Story Trailer
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Future PhaZe
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looks well made
but the complete obsession with the death star is becoming almost comical now
but the complete obsession with the death star is becoming almost comical now
Dash_Riprock
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I'm forced to agree with the naysayers: Outside of some classic Star Wars visuals it feels like every other Sci-Fi Action film that's come out in the last 5 years.
I hope I'm wrong, I really do.
I hope I'm wrong, I really do.
Glory Fades
Banned
You guys just blow my mind.
In 2012 you were all thinking to yourselves, man I guess we will never see another Star Wars move again. That's too bad, what could have been.
Here we are just 4 years later and we are getting so much more from Lucasfilm, and Disney.
I see too much complaining. Would you have preferred that they never made these films? My god just appreciate them for what they are. Its not life and death. Its continuation and in some cases an expansion on a series most of us loved growing up.
Again I remember very distinctly reading an article back in 2012 were George said there will never be another Star Wars film, and that really bummed me out.
Some of you complain about everything.
In 2012 you were all thinking to yourselves, man I guess we will never see another Star Wars move again. That's too bad, what could have been.
Here we are just 4 years later and we are getting so much more from Lucasfilm, and Disney.
I see too much complaining. Would you have preferred that they never made these films? My god just appreciate them for what they are. Its not life and death. Its continuation and in some cases an expansion on a series most of us loved growing up.
Again I remember very distinctly reading an article back in 2012 were George said there will never be another Star Wars film, and that really bummed me out.
Some of you complain about everything.
Interesting little article on EW analyzing the David vs. Goliath themes
http://www.ew.com/gallery/rogue-one-trailer-analysis
This is the first time the films have ever really given us the context to see just how big a Star Destroyer is. Otherwise they've always just been in space.
http://www.ew.com/gallery/rogue-one-trailer-analysis
This is the first time the films have ever really given us the context to see just how big a Star Destroyer is. Otherwise they've always just been in space.
There a number of people here that complain about some very odd things (more so for when TFA is brought up) but just because Star Wars is a thing again after so many years doesn't mean people should just automatically like it. They are works that are still subject to criticism like everything else.
Hahaha! Beaten. Was about to do the same thing.
Well.... I mean, the Death Star is pretty much the genesis of the Original Trilogy and the point of this entire movie...
Dash_Riprock
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Sorry, unlike some fans I won't have an orgasm over something just because it's from a brand I like.
I expect it to actually be GOOD first.
Just because you've got valid criticisms doesn't mean you think it will suck or hate the film or even franchise. There's nothing wrong with being hopefully optimistic while recognizing some of the films weak areas, at least with what we've seen from trailers and behind the scenes. No need to get worked up. I'm still excited for the film, but I'm also worried it might be a generic movie with the SW brand slapped on.
Just had this conversation with my GF yesterday.. obviously not every annual film they release will be a work of art, and I've accepted that, but they should DEFINITELY learn from their mistakes and improve, and without proper criticism, they can't do that. I'd hate to see the slip into a routine of pumping out underdeveloped, rushed and unrealized projects.
Well, yeah. But honestly this is the first time it has actually needed to be in a movie since the original.
What did he mean by this?
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Did you mean to post this in a No Mans Sky thread?
Davey Cakes
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Just add me to that as well. But with perhaps a little more positivity.
The way trailers can be misleading these days, I can't count the movie out yet. I loved TFA so I'm really willing to give Rogue One a chance.
Still, It merely looks okay from what I've seen so far. I think the tone is about right, but the editing of the trailer made it feel a bit generic.
And, damn it, these days I've become a real stickler for good editing. #survivedthedcu
phazedplasma
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Has everyone sufficiently reviewed and scored the movie based on the trailer?
Feel like we need a review thread for this movie already.
Feel like we need a review thread for this movie already.
ViewtifulJC
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I'm convinced I'll never be excited for this movie. It just feels like any other big blockbuster film with some Star Wars iconography on top of it. There's the TIE Fighters again, the Death Star, the robot with the chances for survival, ya x-wings crashing into Star Destroyer shots,Mon Mothma and Vader cameos wooo.
That'll probably be enough for most, but I'm infinitely more interested in Ep.VIII and its promise of new adventures, weird places, and interesting ideas that Rian Johnson and co can conjure up.
That'll probably be enough for most, but I'm infinitely more interested in Ep.VIII and its promise of new adventures, weird places, and interesting ideas that Rian Johnson and co can conjure up.
Dash_Riprock
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Are you new to the internet or something?
The only person who believed that was Bobby, and he's gone now...
RBelong2Us
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i had a pretty fascinating convo with a guy that is a mutual acquaintance and one of the things we talked about was this film. Works in the industry and said that while Disney definitely were not thrilled with the product Edwards put out that they already were prepared for all this and Disney is the one company that can afford to not just reshoot scenes but pretty much shoot a whole film again if need be.
I thought Disney doesn't interfere with Lucasfilm's decisions, same approach they take with Marvel.
Octavianus
Banned
Looks ok I guess. Better than the last couple of Star Wars movies at least.
Maybe you should rewatch because this looks like ESB in comparison to the prequels. I agree the dialogue is still way off though.
I have high hopes for VIII, but am also expecting a ton of backlash when Johnson inevitably doesn't reinvent the sci-fi wheel.
Considering Kasdan described Johnson's script as "weird", I've got high hopes. I agree that TFA was too safe in many respects, especially visually, so this excites me. Try new things. Define where SW should go in 2017.
Orochinagis
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So this is before the Force awakens?
I guess they all are gonna die
I guess they all are gonna die
It's definitely better presented and probably will be a better movie. I'm saying it's about as closest to the prequels as this new batch of movies will get so far. The dialogue is wonky, the production isn't as tight as the mainline movies. It just feels a bit like a throwaway movie that doesn't really bring anything interesting to the table. I'm hope I'm wrong on this.
Well yea, I'm pretty sure everybody feels that way.
I'm interested to see that so many people are predicting that all the Rebel characters are going to die in this. After all, isn't the entire point of this film that their mission leads to the Rebel Alliance's first great victory? It's not like Felicity Jones and friends all destined to die in a mission that we all know in advance is going to turn out horribly.
Having said that, these characters are all totally gonna die.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Its not an enviable task. Everyone's looking for two contradictory things. They want Star Wars, the franchise, so that means Jedi vs the Dark Side, lightsabers and lasers, robots and aliens, X-Wings vs TIE Fighters, Skywalkers and the Force, John Williams and Ben Burtt. But they also want something NEW as well. Its hard to remember now, but try to think back to Empire Strikes Back. It was still Star Wars, but suddenly the galaxy was larger. There were strange new locations, new kinds of enemies and creatures, the Force was solidified as this Zen like essence by Yoda, Vader was Luke's father, it was a huge expansion and explosion on the Star Wars mythos. When I think of ESB, I always think about Bespin. Its this beautiful, high fantasy place with a very particular style of clothes, population, economy, and politics, and yet it felt a-piece with the Star Wars we know from ANH. It made the galaxy of Star Wars seems so big and interesting.
I think ultimately the success of Ep.VIII to my mind is to somehow combine the creativity and imagination of the first six Star Wars movies(yes, even the not-good prequels) with the level of competent filmmaking craft Rian Johnson/Lucasfilm/ILM can do. I think anything else would be a disservice to waht Star Wars stood for orginally, which was giving audiences something they never seen before, using old archetypes and storytelling choices to make it feel iconic and timeless.
Inferno313
Banned
I hate this line of thinking, that a film can only be worthwhile if it adds something to it's encompassing franchise. Are any number of the classic films of cinema "throwaway movies" because they don't exist as part of a franchise? If Rouge One is a compelling film, then that's all it needs to bring something interesting to the table.
I get the wonky dialogue but can you really say the production values aren't in line with mainline movies? Take out the dialogue and you've got a movie that definitely stands on its on in terms of being a part of the SW universe. Some boring/bland music when not reusing JW's scores of course, but as far as I know, the film's composer doesn't do trailer music.
Melkezadek
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I hope this movie makes me hate Vador like I hate Griffith.
I wanna love to hate him.
I wanna love to hate him.
Glory Fades
Banned
I just don't get "not feeling this" Not feeling what? Its a Star Wars movie, what gives you feels? What are you looking for?
Infernostew
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Looks alright. Unfortunately, the way Disney has currently been handling Star Wars (announcing films so far in advanced) is making me anticipate each film less and less. I really wish I was super hyped for this like I was for The Force Awakens but yearly Star Wars films is gonna start feeling less and less important.
No, but in all fairness, they can be considered to be "throwaway movies" if they don't have an individual sense of spirit or uniqueness that allows them to stand apart from other films, quite unlike Force Awakens which many people found to be rather bland and derivative, even in a franchise like Star Wars that borrowed from so many other movies as a means of inspiration.
Science fiction at it's heart as a genre is about exploring new ideas and possibilities, diving headfirst into the unknown in search of the unfamiliar. Not re-heating up yesterday's cinematic left-overs and adding just enough new spices to give give off the illusion that you're actually serving up something fresh and original.
Yup, good post, this is where I hope they go. Don't put yourself inside of a box of "well we have to make sure we have x y and z included here".. think about what you WANT the franchise to be, as its own identity. As much as I loved TFA, which is a fantastic SW film IMO, I do wish it would have been the next evolution in SW creativity. That's what I'm hoping EP8 will be.. brand new locations, creatures, ships, and new mythos tied in with ones introduced in the previous seven films.
I want to step into a new world within the SW universe. I've got high hopes for EP8.
Well, for me - despite the fact that I'm still kinda looking forward to it - I'm just no as incredibly hyped mainly because the movie is all touching upon charted territory in terms of the SW universe and narrative. Apart from the diversity of the cast, there's not a lot of leeway for something truly unique nor "out there" that we haven't already seen many times from various SW media within this film's timeframe. In addition to the fact that this one of those "military mission" type films, you start to understand why some people are finding this generic.
How I feel:
but the complete obsession with the Original Trilogy is becoming almost comical now
I groan at the fact that most of the upcoming SW games are still in that era.
You got a new era of complete unknowns guys - do something with it.
I find it a welcome reprieve from the 15 years of prequel/Clone Wars era stuff.
That's not meant to be a dig at the prequels, either, I'm just tired of clones and droid armies and Obi-Wan/Anakin adventures.
Seventy_X_Seven
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Star Wars is a science fiction fantasy and it already explored leafs of new ideas and possibilities. There's been 7 films, 2 TV series, and loads of novels and comics. The universe is very well defined and people love it. You can't go changing everything just for the sake of being new.
I'm very excited for this film, it will give more details to events I already knew took place in a universe I know very well. I'd honestly be more annoyed than anything if it tried to drastically change what Star Wars is.
Because Star Wars is so well defined though I can see why Star Wars fans or just general Sci Fi fans wouldn't be so excited for an Anthology film.
The original trilogy WAS Star Wars from 1977 to 1999. It is also much more widely critically acclaimed and uncontroversially appreciated by fans than the prequels.
I'm not saying there isn't more to Star Wars than the OT, but it's not exactly weird that Disney would choose to focus on it.
Orochinagis
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Oh my is that Diego Luna? Jeez they are gona kill him for sure, rip space mexican
The problem is that nothing they've shown about Rogue One is really all that compelling outside of some neat visuals here and there. The characters don't look all that interesting, the story is going to lead to a place where we already more or less know the final result, and of course I've already mentioned the wonky dialogue as well doesn't really do much in the way to suggest this movie is worthwhile. The movie could be about Dexter Jettster and could be a worthwhile movie if it was done right, but nothing in Rogue One has really been grabbing me so far in the trailers. I like some of the scenery shown in the trailers and promotional materials, and the new Stormtrooper designs are really good, but that's it.
No-one asked JJ Abrams to "change everything" when he set about making The Force Awakens. We just didn't want a loose remake of A New Hope with only a new cast of characters and a bigger and even better Death Star to make it stand apart from the original film. That's all.
You don't need to re-write the genre when it comes to a making a Star Wars film. You just have to take the story somewhere new, something that myself and many others felt JJ failed to do.
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