NYT: Republicans close to Trump say he's "exhausted, frustrated and bewildered"
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I'd be genuinely amazed if he even shows up.
I mean even if you ignore his absolute absence of any geopolitical, economic or general knowledge, he's so easy to bait that he literally has no chance against Hillary. There's zero way he will keep his cool and the danger of him saying something deeply crazy is 100%.
Basically her only risk is trying to avoid sounding smug or elitist.
And the fact checking and "who won" reviews the following day will eviscerate him.
As others have noted the "rigged media" may be his out. And that too will be disastrous. No taxes no debates. Blame the media and his own base (Connecticut yesterday).
Sad!
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The factor you're forgetting is primaries. The GOP has cultivated a base that has become increasingly hard-right, and anytime they perceive someone that's not a true-believer, there's always a nutjob willing to run against them that will go along with whatever the base wants.
Love it!
I check 538 every few days expecting it to get closer. But it keeps getting further apart.it has become part of my morning pick me up.
He will definitely go to at least one debate. Then he can claim liberal bias on the moderation whenever anyone corrects him, and avoid the rest of his debates while his fans cheer
This really might be the end of democracy. Sad.
Ah, the old Joe Biden problem.
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Fox News about to be cornered by the monster they created.
I think the thing to be concerned about, if he shows up to the debates, is that he might devolve them and take everyone down to his level. The primary debates fell into that pattern a little, where at times it was almost like they were setting it up for them to fight with Trump. So instead of talking about what's important, the debates might turn into he said/she said that Hillary will try to steer out of, and make her look bad instead.
Trump can manipulate things, after all!
PlayALLtheGames
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He's going off on twitter again this morning, saying the media is the reason he's losing. All according to keikaku to set up Trump News after he loses.
Not showing the enthusiasm? LOL what the fuck does that even mean? They put a camera in front of you and let you talk. What is it they should be doing?
RustyNails
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Only way for NYT to respond is to publish more blistering articles from inside the Trump HQ.
They should be doing whip pans showing the audience and light shows in his honor! He essentially wants them to shoot his 65 minute rambling messes like rock concert performances.
He's not sophisticated enough to do it with an audience that isn't stopping to the lowest common denominator. The Republican debates were like a sort of white trash purity test. Trump has no game, and can't follow even basic instructions, so if they say "Kepp going after her blue collar bona fides" he will translate that into "Just say whatever the fuck you feel like!"
That's true. I just get this funny feeling he might take the "I'm taking you all with me" approach as he goes down in flames.
Ninja Scooter
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Hillary is way too much of a pro to let this happen.
He pulled out the Bill Clinton dress comment last night, showing there is no topic off the table for him. I could see him saying it to her face at this point.
David H Wong
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It was Cheney who was into the CIA torture stuff, and Bush who put a stop to it. He was in over his head but he always came off like a decent man. Too easily influenced by those around him, not strong enough to stand up. Would have been a great president for some uneventful span of prosperity instead of getting slammed with the trifecta of 9/11/Katrina/Lehman Bros.
Okay, he wouldn't have been a GREAT president without all that but he could have done well. Remember Bush gave us the Medicare prescription drug program, that's helped millions of old people.
Ninja Scooter
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After the last 30 years you think a "Bill Clinton dress comment" is going to phase HIllary? He can say it, she'll remain calm and he will get lambasted in the press for it. If he wants to make the story coming out of each debate "Donald Trump says dumb stuff" then let him go right ahead. It's worked so well for him the last 2 weeks.
He certainly could do that; I was just trying to qualify my statement. I figured "tanTrump" would be a good way to poke fun at his attitude.
And if Colbert makes that joke on his show, then I can say I'm as good as their writers (or they stole it from me 
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)orthodoxy1095
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The energy at the debates is going to be amazing to watch. I wonder how he's going to come out. Desperate and clawing? Defeated and whiny?
BreezyLimbo
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And although No Child Left Behind is largely a disaster, it at least had good intentions.
Fox has been eating itself to an extent since Trump won the primaries. It's rather amusing.
Yeah, you're probably right. If he does end up going to the first debate, that will be a fascinating study in the human mind as it disintegrates.
She's been under attack most of her adult life. If she can handle 11 straight hours of Benghazi testimony in front of scummy former prosecutors, she can handle Donald Trump without losing her cool.
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I don't think that is at all likely.
Not only is Hilary skilled and experienced and downright good at this stuff, not only is she briefed and knowledgeable about policy and the world to her fingertips, not only is she calm under pressure, but also she'll be more knowledgeable and better briefed on Trump's policies than he is.
He'll have nowhere to turn.
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IIRC the 1st and 3rd debates consist of 6 15-minute policy segments. The second debate takes half the questions from the audience.
I am not sure which format would produce more shenanigans.
I am not sure which format would produce more shenanigans.
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Fox has been against Trump at least in part since the first question of the first debate.
whyamihere
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Oooooooh
orthodoxy1095
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The replies on any negative tweet about Trump are hilarious.
Like how delusional can you be.
ClosingADoor
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"False meaning" and "real message"? Please tell, what is the real meaning and message. All I saw when watching a rally is a rambling old man not knowing what he is doing on a stage, while people cheered for God knows what reason.
Escape Goat
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That's a separate issue. I was responding to a poster suggesting that voting for either candidate would have similar outcomes. Obviously it would not.
I'm not going to address the substance of your reaction - which is that Hillary is effectively a "hawk" because her opponent has suggested nuking the region, completely abandoning it and creating religious tests for its refugees, often on the same day.
Comparisons between Hillary and Trump on ability or policy are ludicrous when presented as legitimate argument.
Trump's remaining base is basically the third of Loiusiana Republicans that think Obama is to blame for the handling of Katrina. And he's making no effort to expand beyond that. Viewed from that angle, a lot of this makes sense.
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The best part about this isn't that it bothers him, but that it's so easy to tell that it bothers him. I want to see Trump squirm like the sack of crap he is. There will be nothing more delectable. than him. his followers and the Republican party having their bigoted hopes and dreams crushed utterly. Nothing.
Fingers crossed for the momentum lasting through to down ticket races.
Doesn't matter what he says to her if she doesn't take the bait. She is the presidential nominee in spite of a 20+ long smear campaign + other baggage from being a politician for so long. The idea of Trump of all people pulling one over on her isn't something to worry about.
Fingers crossed for the momentum lasting through to down ticket races.
Doesn't matter what he says to her if she doesn't take the bait. She is the presidential nominee in spite of a 20+ long smear campaign + other baggage from being a politician for so long. The idea of Trump of all people pulling one over on her isn't something to worry about.
BreezyLimbo
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Oh right, yeah, they've been out for blood for a while
His fanbase has a larger bark than bite~
Loooool isn't that what he does all the time, say completely false things
Ninja Scooter
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Fox has never really backed Trump, they are just interested in continuing to divide the country and propagating the "lamestream media bias!" perception, and right now are using Trump as a tool to push that. A Hillary win will probably be fantastic for Fox News.
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Stage 1: This is rigged. I'm actually winning
Stage 2: It'd be really mean if you people let me lose. I'd be winning if you weren't letting me down and the media weren't lying about me
Stage 3: I actually don't care that much. Wow, you people really care if I lose. Not me, I'm cool like that. I tried and failed, big whoop, maybe you haters should grow up a bit and stop obsessing about it
Stage 4: Funny how I got you morons all riled up with a few little tweets and comments. Interesting how you played right into my hands. I just got a bunch of advertising and ratings for free. Thanks for confirming my hypothesis, for my social experiment, that this all was
Stage 5: I didn't run for President
Stage 2: It'd be really mean if you people let me lose. I'd be winning if you weren't letting me down and the media weren't lying about me
Stage 3: I actually don't care that much. Wow, you people really care if I lose. Not me, I'm cool like that. I tried and failed, big whoop, maybe you haters should grow up a bit and stop obsessing about it
Stage 4: Funny how I got you morons all riled up with a few little tweets and comments. Interesting how you played right into my hands. I just got a bunch of advertising and ratings for free. Thanks for confirming my hypothesis, for my social experiment, that this all was
Stage 5: I didn't run for President
Ninja Scooter
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I have a feeling there's going to be a "If I don't win the Presidency I'll fucking kill myself and it'll be your fault!" phase.
orthodoxy1095
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So that's why Fox News doesn't like him. Huehue.
Not quite suicidal, but wasn't there a rally a few days ago where he tried something like this? Like "I spent all my money and if I lose, you all should feel bad about the money I wasted"?
The comments on that tweet are delicious.
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Yep. Time to eat the shit you've been swimming in, Fox.
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