Xbox One Backwards Compatibility Thread: Everyone wants it, no one uses it

state_vector_collapse said:
Yeah I am. Thanks for that. I did look on the forums there but couldn't find anything.
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Having said that, I played several hours of RDR last night to test for any problems, and it ran just fine, so it's possible that the latest preview build has resolved these issues?

I should also note, that there's since been another preview build update tonight too.
 
EffEmmGee said:
Having said that, I played several hours of RDR last night to test for any problems, and it ran just fine, so it's possible that the latest preview build has resolved these issues?

I should also note, that there's since been another preview build update tonight too.
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Just checked it again. Same problem and I'm up to date with the preview build. Game runs great the first time you boot it up. But if you die and reload, it goes back to being really crappy. And also out in the desert etc where there is less going on, it is still doing that weird thing of smooth, then juddery, then smooth, then juddery...etc. Not sure what else I can try now.
 
I've been playing red dead and while it started out pretty good, I'm into Mexico now and the performance has just been getting worse and worse. This last mission felt like 10fps most of the time. Really awful to play.

And when running through the world there are hitches every second or so.

I switched to Xbox 360 and it's so much better. Smooth frame rate, better colors and image quality.

Backwards compatibility is a nice feature on paper but if this is the result why waste time on it?
 
state_vector_collapse said:
No idea if anyone can help, but the framerate in Red Dead Redemption has gone to shit for me and I have no clue how to fix it.

It was fine up until a few days ago, when suddenly it started dropping to what seems like single figures in towns. Outside of towns it smooths out, but what happens is, it is smooth, then judders for a second or so, then goes smooth, then judders etc etc. It does it like clockwork.

I tried deleting the game and re-downloading it, which worked the first time I played it, until I had to reload a save and then it was back to being all shitty.

I have even moved the installation from an external drive to the internal one, and same thing - plays fine the first boot up, then after that goes back to being basically unplayable in towns. Very frustrating.
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Didn't see your post. The game absolutely gets worse as it goes on. Missions where youve got multiple people chasing across the desert or alongside a train turn into a slideshow.

The gamw was also really bad after fast traveling. It eventually gets a little better but not by much.
 
7DollarHagane said:
I've been playing red dead and while it started out pretty good, I'm into Mexico now and the performance has just been getting worse and worse. This last mission felt like 10fps most of the time. Really awful to play.

And when running through the world there are hitches every second or so.

I switched to Xbox 360 and it's so much better. Smooth frame rate, better colors and image quality.

Backwards compatibility is a nice feature on paper but if this is the result why waste time on it?
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That sounds like an issue on your end. Check out the Digital Foundry test for the game.
 
7DollarHagane said:
Didn't see your post. The game absolutely gets worse as it goes on. Missions where youve got multiple people chasing across the desert or alongside a train turn into a slideshow.

The gamw was also really bad after fast traveling. It eventually gets a little better but not by much.
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That is exactly where I am in the game. The train chase in Mexico. Literally unplayable.
 
etta said:
That sounds like an issue on your end. Check out the Digital Foundry test for the game.
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The problem is they didn't get much further than armadillo.

As other people have posted the train chase in Mexico is where things really start to get bad. It was slowing down before but that mission was where it felt like a consistent 15-20fps.

It affects the control of the game. I'm back to 360 now and it is much smoother and better control response. Glad there's easy cloud save synching.
 
DizzyCaffeine said:
The one where you fend off the rebels with the Gatling gun? It's totally playable on my S; just played it a few days ago actually. Haven't tried it on the OG yet.
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The one im thinking of is on horseback. With other people on horseback riding with you, people fighting you on horseback, and people on the train fighting with you.
 
GoodEyeSniper said:
They only played the first hour or so.
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7DollarHagane said:
The problem is they didn't get much further than armadillo.

As other people have posted the train chase in Mexico is where things really start to get bad. It was slowing down before but that mission was where it felt like a consistent 15-20fps.

It affects the control of the game. I'm back to 360 now and it is much smoother and better control response. Glad there's easy cloud save synching.
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Hmmm, I'll test it again when I get the S but I honestly don't remember significant drops outside of Thieves' Landing from my playthrough.
 
Just started playing Portal 2 again. I played it the first time on PS3 but I can definitely tell some framerate issues on 360. It's not bad at all but it stutters sometimes.
 
After yesterdays preview update Red Dead seems to be fine for me again now. I notice in the preview app there is a quest now asking for people to play a BC title and submit how well it plays.
 
purseowner said:
Disappointed at no new announcements today - or is that being saved for the middle of Gamescom this week?
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Don't do this to yourself.
This is how I spent the entirety of E3: "Any minute now, EA is going to announce new BC titles. ...Any minute now, Phil is going to announce new BC titles. ...Any minute now, Larry's daily E3 show will announce new BC titles."

Never happened.
 
Brakara said:
I'm seriously starting to hate these shitty remaster releases, when it means we don't get the BC versions, like the Bioshock games and now ME 2/3.
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Blame those that actively supports them. When I complained about remasters last time the main responses were "they don't stop making new games" and "they're made for those that missed them last gen".
 
Brakara said:
I'm seriously starting to hate these shitty remaster releases, when it means we don't get the BC versions, like the Bioshock games and now ME 2/3.
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I hear ya, I was hoping to get Dead Rising 2 BC cuz I got it with GwG, but that's not gonna happen, and I'm not interested in buying remasters and I already played the first one, I also got Case Zero with GwG, maybe I can get that BC, but not gonna hold my breath
 
People are just being cheap wanting to play the free backwards compatible version, if you cared enough you'd still have your 360. I'd choose the remastered next gen version (GTA V) with added features than the old version on 360 any day.
 
dreamcastmaster said:
People are just being cheap wanting to play the free backwards compatible version, if you cared enough you'd still have your 360. I'd choose the remastered next gen version (GTA V) with added features than the old version on 360 any day.
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Wow!! Really? First off, don't call people cheap, just because they would like the choice of playing games they already own and not have to be forced to rebuy them to play on they current gen systems. I see no reason why there can't be both. People that want high-res textures and 60fps gameplay should have the choice to buy the remaster. Those that are fine with the original version they already have should also have the choice of playing it. Can people play these games on a 360 they already own, of course, but having all your games on one system is a convenience as well.
 
amdb00mer said:
Wow!! Really? First off, don't call people cheap, just because they would like the choice of playing games they already own and not have to be forced to rebuy them to play on they current gen systems. I see no reason why there can't be both. People that want high-res textures and 60fps gameplay should have the choice to buy the remaster. Those that are fine with the original version they already have should also have the choice of playing it. Can people play these games on a 360 they already own, of course, but having all your games on one system is a convenience as well.
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And some people just want to record/screenshot. And some people want to continue working on their achievements for the original game.
 
amdb00mer said:
Wow!! Really? First off, don't call people cheap, just because they would like the choice of playing games they already own and not have to be forced to rebuy them to play on they current gen systems. I see no reason why there can't be both. People that want high-res textures and 60fps gameplay should have the choice to buy the remaster. Those that are fine with the original version they already have should also have the choice of playing it. Can people play these games on a 360 they already own, of course, but having all your games on one system is a convenience as well.
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Cheap. You care that much why would you not want the best version of a game? Did people never buy the Blu Ray versions of movies they own on DVD?
 
dreamcastmaster said:
Cheap. You care that much why would you not want the best version of a game? Did people never buy the Blu Ray versions of movies they own on DVD?
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You keep overlooking the word "choice". Almost all blu-ray players were back compatible and played DVDs. Were they true HD? Nope, but at least people had a choice to continue using the movies they owned without being forced to rebuy and have to use two separate devices. So, the same principle of back compat and choice applies to your blu-ray example.
 
dreamcastmaster said:
People are just being cheap wanting to play the free backwards compatible version, if you cared enough you'd still have your 360. I'd choose the remastered next gen version (GTA V) with added features than the old version on 360 any day.
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My household has 4 Xbox 360 games in it. I didn't play man Xbox 360 games until the became backwards compatible (eg. Stick of Truth). Some people just want to turn on 1 machine and play everything in the same place.
 
dreamcastmaster said:
People are just being cheap wanting to play the free backwards compatible version, if you cared enough you'd still have your 360. I'd choose the remastered next gen version (GTA V) with added features than the old version on 360 any day.
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Guess im cheap for enjoying the ability to play all my games on one machine.
 
There is definitley a issue with my XBL profile.
I can't play any 360 games online on my Xbox One, but my girlfriend can log into her account and can play them online!
Is there a known solution to this? I tought it had something to do with beeing on a preview update, but is using the same xbox one and can play normally..
 
I was hoping for some bigger titles to be announced during Gamescom, but nothing so far it seems.
Giff Splinter Cell Conviction and Blacklist, LA Noire, and Max Payne plis.
 
etta said:
I was hoping for some bigger titles to be announced during Gamescom, but nothing so far it seems.
Giff Splinter Cell Conviction and Blacklist, LA Noire, and Max Payne plis.
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I thought the same thing during e3. Best not to get your hopes up.
 
I must have the worst luck with bc games.

Red Dead Redemption crashed a few times, had audio bugs.

Stick of Truth crashed and also had audio bugs.

Beyond Good and Evil has crashed on me several times, also fallen through geometry a few times.
 
RaZoR No1 said:
There is definitley a issue with my XBL profile.
I can't play any 360 games online on my Xbox One, but my girlfriend can log into her account and can play them online!
Is there a known solution to this? I tought it had something to do with beeing on a preview update, but is using the same xbox one and can play normally..
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Have you tried signing out of your X360 profile once you've logged in through a BC title and re-downloading your Gamertag? It could be worth a try.
 
RDR is such a fantastic game and I'm so happy it's now backwards compatible. It's incredibly fun to hop in and complete a few missions and side quests...like, it feels engaging and relaxing at the same time, if that makes sense.
 
malfcn said:
I must have the worst luck with bc games.

Red Dead Redemption crashed a few times, had audio bugs.

Stick of Truth crashed and also had audio bugs.

Beyond Good and Evil has crashed on me several times, also fallen through geometry a few times.
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Sounds like it, but I've definitely had both BG&E HD and RDR bug out and crash on me on X360 several times before so it may not necessarily be all down to emulation.
 
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