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[metareferential]

Every single leak about ps4k/slim has been damn on point. Even the damn "two-ps4slim-ducttaped-together" design.

I wonder if Ms will match that price at a higher performance (including 4k bluray).

 

[orochi91]

No last minute spec bumps? I'm positively flabbergasted.

From the previous leaks, there was a higher spec version being considered along with what we're getting here, but it was probably axed due to being too pricey.

That $399 price-tag seems to a noose for a supposedly premium device.

 

[Aaron]

Seems like kind of a waste. The spec bump isn't that huge, and no 4k blu.

 

[KennyLinder]

Is that 3 USB ports?

Yeah it has one on the back, along with Optical.

 

[GrizzleBoy]

310W o_o

PS4 is about 140w while gaming for comparison.

 

[Pooya]

that's like 2 times peak power consumption of PS4.


also shocking news, specs didn't change.

 

[avaya]

Jaguar's thermal max is 2.1GHz.

God AMD are awful.

 

[duhmetree]

Jaguar.... y u do dis Sony

 

[Schnozberry]

It's nice of AMD to keep the space heater feature for those that live in cold weather climates. 310W is something else.

 

[Proelite]

310W power consumption? What process is this on? Surely not 16nm

Seriously 16nm no way it's 310. Most likely typo as in 310 PSU.

 

[I am Error]

Because people keep coming up with the 60fps-patch-wishes I have to ask:

Can this machine even make games run on 1080p/60fps if they were previously running on 1080p/30fps without sacrificing graphical fidelity?

 

[Corpsepyre]

What does this mean for Scorpio? Is it heavily overpowered compared to Pro?

 

[gofreak]

going to be interesting to see what games can be driven at 4k on a 4.2tf gpu

Cerny was pretty open about this. He acknowledged that 'brute force native' 4K is a challenge for a console in 2016, so typically other techniques will be tapped to construct a 4K output (upscaling from the likes of 1800p+, checkerboard rendering etc.) He mentioned there was custom hardware in there in that vein, although it's probably just extra stuff in the scaler to perhaps help with checkerboard techniques or whatnot.

 

[Venom Fox]

I guess this is the part where I say "sorry guys".

 

[thesuperfunk]

PS5 where art thou!?

 

[shiftplusone]

Cool now someone compare this to the OG PS4 in DBZ powerlevels

wii u is turtle
xbox one is master roshi
ps4 is krillin
ps4 pro is piccolo during vegeta saga

 

[LordOcidax]

Every single leak about ps4k/slim has been damn on point. Even the damn "two-ps4slim-ducttaped-together" design.

I wonder if Ms will match that price at a higher performance (including 4k bluray).

One year later.... easily.

 

[hydrophilic attack]

Every single leak about ps4k/slim has been damn on point. Even the damn "two-ps4slim-ducttaped-together" design.

I wonder if Ms will match that price at a higher performance (including 4k bluray).

If MS launches at $399, then Sony just drops the price. Xbox can't afford to follow suit after a PS4P price drop. PS2 vs Xbox all over again

 

[fvng]

So which components got 'roided out?

 

[Big Green Anus]

Can high power consumption lead to overheating issues?

 

[bidguy]

So what does this mean exactly to those that aren't that smart ?

the cpu is utter trash

 

[MightyHedgehog]

Ugh, I'm probably going to get one for better-running PS4 games, but the decision to not include a UHD Blu Ray player means I'm buying an X1S to replace my day one X1. I guess that I'm part of the problem buying up every new version of hardware despite the value proposition being shaky as fuck. At least, MS has a pretty easy target for Scorpio next year.

 

[avaya]

Seriously 16nm no way it's 310. Most likely typo as in 310 PSU.

Makes sense.

 

[Kenzodielocke]

I don't get why people are upset about this, because when it first leaked, people were really pissed abount incremental upgrades, and now it's too low ?

Whatever, I am indifferent as of know.

 

[Obliterator]

Wait does the Pro not have an Optical port either?!

 

[Phamit]

Console is really power hungry

 

[orochi91]

What does this mean for Scorpio? Is it heavily overpowered compared to Pro?

Releasing a full-year later, I imagine it will be much more powerful and feature rich.

 

[Hoo-doo]

Every single leak about ps4k/slim has been damn on point. Even the damn "two-ps4slim-ducttaped-together" design.

I wonder if Ms will match that price at a higher performance (including 4k bluray).

Sure they will. In a year.

 

[Lima]

 

[gai_shain]

Are they gonna use interlacing(?) to achieve 4k?
The same thing they used for Killzone to give it a higher resolution or wont that work this way?

 

[Risk Breaker]

Native 4K rendering or upscaling?

~1800p I guess.

Which is around 5760000 pixels compared to 2073600 at 1080p.

Which is a pretty great update 3 years after launch imo. 2.77 times the resolution. IQ will greatly improve. Having seen 1800p content I can tell you it looks a lot better than 1080p.

 

[Reversed]

Now that's the PS Sandwich.

 

[Kouriozan]

310 watts seems a bit too much, no?

Fake edit : checked OG PS4 and it's indeed much lower.

 

[Backfoggen]

Wtf is that power consumption? My OC'd as hell PC with a nightmarish 780Ti in it averages a little bit more than that.

 

[benny_a]

So those leaks back from April were spot on? Crazy.

Is that power output high?

Edit - that's almost double the power use of a ps4, will this thing run hot?

PS4 1000 had a 250 W PSU but only got up to 140 W

 

[gofreak]

Because people keep coming up with the 60fps-patch-wishes I have to ask:

Can this machine even make games run on 1080p/60fps if they were previously running on 1080p/30fps without sacrificing graphical fidelity?

If they were GPU alu-bound, yeah. If they're badly CPU bound (frametime >22ms), or memory bandwidth bound, then no.

So some games could get that boost.

 

[Ushay]

310W? Can't be right?

 

[Herp Derpington]

I would say Scorpio is gonna murder this but it's also a year out so I guess it's to be expected. I can't see Sony coming out with the PS5 next year so it's gonna be a really interesting E3 when MS rolls out Scorpio (assuming they do it at that event).

This seems about as uninteresting a release for me as you could get and I'll definitely stick with my current PS4 until the Pro comes down in price. $399 is a bit steep for what they're giving us in my opinion.

 

[Averon]

I cannot imagine how how hot and big the Scorpio will be.

It seems AMD still have not fixed their problem of having hot chips.

edit: This might be a typo. I hope so.

 

[Max_Po]

#1. 399 Price is attractive
#2. If it does better at 1080p

its good enough for me.

Spoiler

Of course I am going to get the Scorpio as well

 

[orochi91]

Wait does the Pro not have an Optical port either?!

It has it.

 

[duhmetree]

Jaguar... and Pro... does not compute

 

[Heshinsi]

USB 3.1 and AC wireless? Good. I can totally understand why this console doesn't have UHD Blu ray. It's not like regular Blu Ray movies are flying off the shelves right now anyways, and that's with most people owning 1080p sets.

 

[Obliterator]

It has it.

Ok thank god

Edit - I see it now. Somehow I missed it when I first looked at the spec

 

[Liquid-San]

802.11ac FINALLY! That and a confirmation of 60fps lock is good enough for me.

Reason enough to purchase one. Can't tolerate slow wireless speeds, but yeah, good luck on that 60 FPS lock...

 

[Pineapple]

Most certainly not native.

So of it's not native, and a 4K TV is upscaling the image anyway, what advantages does the Pro offer over a regular PS4 when it comes to 4K?

 

[Tony Iron Man Stark]

Welp, 4.2 TFLOPS beats my Dell XPS 15 GTX 970M

 

[SliChillax]

It won't be native, Cerny said so.

So no native 4K gaming and no support for 4K blu rays? Why the hell even focus on 4K tv's so much?

 

[OdysseusVA]

Does it at least have SATA III?

 

[Plinko]

That seems...underwhelming, I guess. Was hoping for higher, but that hope wasn't based on any real news.