What existing trade deal? Once the UK exits the EU, it automatically defaults to WTO trade rules and will have to negotiate a trade deal with the EU, either an EEA/Norway/Swiss-type of deal or a FTA.
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What existing trade deal? Once the UK exits the EU, it automatically defaults to WTO trade rules and will have to negotiate a trade deal with the EU, either an EEA/Norway/Swiss-type of deal or a FTA.
FlammableD
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We're the ones that are ripping up the deal.
But there is no existing trade deal?
Oh Sweet summer child...
Let me tell you about the long winter that will last for generations...
I doubt this would happen. A far more likely scenario is that the UK will be put in the EEA on a temporary basis while a trade agreement is worked out.
The UK would have to apply to join the EEA first
PdotMichael
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So everything is based on that the country who acted like the biggest cunts about the idea of the EU and unified Europe gets a nice deal because well...
May has already said the UK is 'not going to stay in the EU by the back door' and wants its own 'distinct relation' with the EU, not an 'off the shelf' model like Norway or Switzerland. You know, Brexit means Brexit.
Besides, I don't know if you could negotiate a FTA with the EU while you're an EEA member. I kind of have a feeling you'd have to drop out first before you could.
It would only be temporary with an end date and it doesn't have to be the EEA but something similar, so the EU and the UK can sort out their future trading relationship. I don't think neither side want to trade under WTO rules, especially as the UK is not guaranteed to be able to fall back on them when it does exit the EU.
One thing is for sure, this will dominante the political landscape for the next decade to come.
They wouldn't, but the UK seems to be wanting it.
I would say certain individuals of the UK government want it, but it seems like atm the preferred option is to still remain as close as possible to the single market.
When is that going to be discussed? Not before article 50 and that starts a countdown of two years.
I knew a Corbynista that insisted Corbyn was the remain's biggest fan. I kinda wish I talked to her so I could say told you so.
Halph n Halph
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We already operate within the laws and framework that allow us to be members of the union. Providing we honour everything regarding the trading of goods and services that are already set out, an arrangement, even if it's temporary, wouldn't be impossible and would benefit everybody.
I'm probably over simplifying a complex process as I'm certainly no expert.
Your membership for the EEA is determined through your EU membership. You no longer fullfill the EU membership point of the arrangement, so you would need to re-apply. At which point Norway, Spain and Poland will say no.
Theonik
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And Norway's already publicly said 'bollocks to that' and said they'd probably block a favourable UK EEA deal.
PJV3
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I'm waiting for WTO rules and tarrifs on clothes plus lower pound value, I expect blood on the streets outside Primark.
iPhone buyers will probably hardly notice.
They are now writing 1000+ word articles explaining how this takes courage.
Can shopping in Primark get more vicious than it already is?
Australian trade minister says special relationship with UK is now for 'yesteryear'
Awaiting the "Fine! We don't have to like to Australia! Or Japan! Or the US!" responses.
Awaiting the "Fine! We don't have to like to Australia! Or Japan! Or the US!" responses.
Sounds like they just don't want Brexit to interfere with their ongoing trade negotiations with the EU. IIRC they are almost a decade in and close to completion?
I don't think this means much in regards to a future UK-Aus deal
jufonuk
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The parallels with the film the world's end are astonishing.
jufonuk
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But are we going to be all fuck it and tell the EU to fuck off back to Legoland in their rockets ? I hope not ...
damn it, jufonuk!
Funky Papa
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It means that May et all will have to sit and stop pretending.
Australia's negotiators are currently very busy with the EU and have no time for smaller players, specially ones that could jeopardize current negotiations with future partners. Once the European deal has been signed and ratified, Australia may attend the UK's demands for a trade deal if they deem it interesting.
Meanwhile, The Telegraph continues to live inside the Imperial Bubble: Why Australia will do anything to secure a trade deal with Britain.
jufonuk
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Time to find out who our mates are.
Fuck it lets see how messed up we get after we leave . I keep flip flopping. One day I am cautiously optimistic we can come out relatively ok. then the next day not so sure.. Flipping hell.
Wait negative brexit talk sky news ?? news.sky.com/story/brexit-to-cause-15-years-of-economic-pain-former-eu-lawyer-10569236
Aren't they pro brexit ??
Fuck it lets see how messed up we get after we leave . I keep flip flopping. One day I am cautiously optimistic we can come out relatively ok. then the next day not so sure.. Flipping hell.
Wait negative brexit talk sky news ?? news.sky.com/story/brexit-to-cause-15-years-of-economic-pain-former-eu-lawyer-10569236
Aren't they pro brexit ??
He is either going to sell the state Belgium to the United Kingdom as he tends to love selling Belgian state properties or he'll eat them alive as you'd be hardpressed to find ten more pro-European Union politician in that parliament.
Oh I've no doubt that any kind of deal would be years off. "Back of the queue" and all that
Holy shit at this article though, what a fantasy world this guy lives in
What about Cyprus! Oh no, wait.
What about Northern Cyprus? Might as well piss off the EU even more.
They probably don't want to admit it, but being Murdoch owned? Without a doubt.
I don't know why I looked, but the Facebook comments related to that article sure are something
https://www.facebook.com/skynews/videos/1449538081727451/
Honestly there's no hope for the majority of those people.
they'd just save it for the pub, bus, train, shop
RedSparrows
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Or GAF 
PdotMichael
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Whatever. The domestic smartphone industry will fill the gap soon enough.
Amstrad has just been waiting for the right moment.
PJV3
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Binatone, check out the big icons for the elderly Brexit voter. It's British and only 45 quid for the flagship model, who needs an iphone?
anonymous_abc
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I agree this should be good for the rEU.
Don't forget that the other negotiator, Didier Seeuws, used to work for Verhofstadt when he was MP.
Both are specialised in EU affairs and have a huge insight in how the EU and EU laws function. I assume Michel Barnier, who I don't know that well, as an ex advisor of both Barroso and Junker has a similar profile.
Both are specialised in EU affairs and have a huge insight in how the EU and EU laws function. I assume Michel Barnier, who I don't know that well, as an ex advisor of both Barroso and Junker has a similar profile.
Audioboxer
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More @ http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/eus-chief-brexit-negotiator-agrees-8796253
Fucking yaldi!
Sturgeon doing the work behind the scenes.
She didn't even need to do anything. He has been on the pro-Scotland in European Union train since the referendum. Sturgeon couldn't find a better partner for that. It is also a good way to open the negotiations. We will split your country and in return, you can leave. Thinking about it, he really has no reason to be kind to the UK. He would have been European Commission president instead of Jose Manuel Barroso if it wasn't for the United Kingdom...
they can say all they want, there is a reason that the referendum idea has fallen flat, their polling is showing there is still no real appetite for independence....
So Scotland may of voted to stay in the EU, but they still don't want to leave the UK, so Sturgeon is land locked....call another referendum and lose and her party would be fucked for a generation.
Scotland always remind me of those little yappy dogs who always bark and snap at the large dogs, and they always ignore those little fuckers because they know they are not worth the effort.... I am half convinced that is the mantra of Scottish people, they want to give the UK a bloody nose whenever they can, but are quite happy to come running home as soon as shit gets real
Maybe you should leave the EU. We over here care about Grammar.
ultratruman
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Scotland is already a country.
Strange, I thought all you cared about was claiming benefits in the UK
Why are you against Scottish independence, Tak3n?
I am not at all, I am all for them to go, but they wont!...Angus Robertson moans every week in PMQ's about this and that, and how Scotland are getting screwed over. so if their life is so bad call a fucking referendum and shut the hell up
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