Final Fantasy XV TGS 2016 Trailer

Nice footage, bad trailer once again though.
Who directs those "things", failing to build up hype and mystery.
On another note, we really know the whole plot only by the trailers now don't we? If you exclude the mandatory emotional loses to noctis, which I believe are leaked.
 
Chillin' out maxin' relaxin' all cool
And all fat shaming Prompto outside of the school

When a nasty Marilith who was up to no good,
Killed my moms (not a spoiler because it's in Brotherhood)
Mom was just a minor character but King Regis said "hey,
You're going to stay with future waifu in the town of Tenebrae"

I whistled for the Regalia but when it came near,
I saw sometime since Versus Driver-San had disappeared
 
After looking at this again it seems everything is standard PS4 footage after all. The grassy areas are so good-looking that I still have some doubt though. If these are PS4 footage then they really did a fantastic job optimizing it. Cannot wait!

Also, did anyone else notice this? First screenshot is right at the shot change, second one is a split-second later. Not that it bothers me.
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Final Fantasy XV - A Tragedy

2006 - Final Fantasy Versus XIII is announced
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Tetsuya Nomura proudly reveals Stella - His favourite character
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2013

Final Fantasy Versus XIII is cancelled - XV is directed by Hajime Tabata
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Hajime Tabata - The man who saved Final Fantasy XV?

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2015

Director Tabata removes Stella from the game.
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The reaction of the fans
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Tabata's reaction to the fans

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2016

Hajime Tabata reveals the release date for Final Fantasy XV - September 30th - He did it!
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During E3 2016, the game shows first signs of roughness.
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But development of Final Fantasy XV is not moving along as planned.Tabata apologizes to fans as he delays the game.




Meanwhile, Nomura has been working tirelessly on Kingdom Hearts and shows awesome gameplay of 2.8.

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In all those years, Nomura didn't stop thinking about Versus XIII.
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He will never forget. Whenever he sees a trailer of XV, he will be reminded of what could have been. His vision. His Final Fantasy.

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But deep down Nomura knows that the world is ever changing. His time will come.
 
That trailer was alright. Not as good as usual kh/ff trailers, but better than what XV trailers have been for over a year now.

Also lol at that tragedy post :D.
 
So... if a woman gets slapped, or isn't physically strong... that makes her weak? It's a little sad how so many people in this thread seem to think that the only way for a woman to be considered strong is if she's out there swinging around a sword and kicking butt or something.

Also, I've seen many people talk about how Luna appears to just be another "Yuna" character. Well, even if that's the case, it's not like female characters that go around kicking butt are exactly unique either. They're a dime a dozen nowadays. There's been plenty of female characters in the FF franchise that fit this type.

Either way, I'll reserve judgement on Luna's character until I actually see what she does and says in the game. One quick scene in a trailer isn't enough to make me immediately write her off as a "weak" character.
 
No FFVIIR or KH3 trailers as expected but we did get to see the progress on the Play Arts Kai models:

Probably not thread worthy but man is R!Barret's design good.

Why does Cloud have two belts now.

He didn't even have one before.

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Nomura why
 
So... if a woman gets slapped, or isn't physically strong... that makes her weak? It's a little sad how so many people in this thread seem to think that the only way for a woman to be considered strong is if she's out there swinging around a sword and kicking butt or something.

Also, I've seen many people talk about how Luna appears to just be another "Yuna" character. Well, even if that's the case, it's not like female characters that go around kicking butt are exactly unique either. They're a dime a dozen nowadays. There's been plenty of female characters in the FF franchise that fit this type.

Either way, I'll reserve judgement on Luna's character until I actually see what she does and says in the game. One quick scene in a trailer isn't enough to make me immediately write her off as a "weak" character.
There are scenes that show her will and resolve is strong i.e Leviathan fight and shrugging off the guards while looking badass. Then there is this slap scene. People will just side with the narrative that fits their agenda while ignoring the rest.
 
So... if a woman gets slapped, or isn't physically strong... that makes her weak? It's a little sad how so many people in this thread seem to think that the only way for a woman to be considered strong is if she's out there swinging around a sword and kicking butt or something.

Also, I've seen many people talk about how Luna appears to just be another "Yuna" character. Well, even if that's the case, it's not like female characters that go around kicking butt are exactly unique either. They're a dime a dozen nowadays. There's been plenty of female characters in the FF franchise that fit this type.

Either way, I'll reserve judgement on Luna's character until I actually see what she does and says in the game. One quick scene in a trailer isn't enough to make me immediately write her off as a "weak" character.

Yes, so many people just see that one thing and doesn't see her determination to help Noctis stood up against Leviathan
 
Stella obsession continues to be the strangest fan reaction I have seen in the last 5 years.

Imagine if a fan got to see inside the game studio at the hundreds of characters that have been concepted and cut from the game. They would literally go insane.
 
So... if a woman gets slapped, or isn't physically strong... that makes her weak? It's a little sad how so many people in this thread seem to think that the only way for a woman to be considered strong is if she's out there swinging around a sword and kicking butt or something.

I think boiling down people's concerns to such a one note viewpoint is very irritating.

Poor Nomura, only had 10 years to deliver a working game.

Do you think if you repeat something often enough, it becomes true?
 
The demon guy in the Cosmogony book is totally Ardyn. They didn't even try to be subtle in that artwork. It also seems like we aren't getting Regis' sword in Insomnia, but in Niflheim.
 
I think boiling down people's concerns to such a one note viewpoint is very irritating.



Do you think if you repeat something often enough, it becomes true?

Honestly there'd be less of this if Luna's detractors more clearly articulated their concerns. Like, what could they show that would meet people's criteria for strength? Is getting slapped necessarily counter to that?
 
Only now am I starting to get fed up with the whole Nomura crying. I am usually very patient. If even I am cringing now every time I see a single mention of his ghost characters along with fan fiction attached, I can only imagine what those with a shorter fuse are going through. I feel for you brothers and sisters.
 
Honestly there'd be less of this if Luna's detractors more clearly articulated their concerns. Like, what could they show that would meet people's criteria for strength? Is getting slapped necessarily counter to that?

I want to see her actually show this strength of character Tabata keeps promising us is there and makes her character worth it. Facing off against Leviathan, and brushing a gun away are, while cool, not what i'm looking for when i think about strength of character. I want her to be in control of a situation and have the game show her actually dictating events. Seeing her make that speech to the people, in order to get them to stand up against oppression was a single good step in the right direction.
 
I think boiling down people's concerns to such a one note viewpoint is very irritating.



Do you think if you repeat something often enough, it becomes true?

"Boiling it down"? There were a good number of people in this thread that either called Luna "weak" or made some kind of jab at Tabata's description of Luna being strong, after seeing that slap in the trailer.

If you weren't one of them, then obviously my comment wasn't directed at you.
 
I want to see her actually show this strength of character Tabata keeps promising us is there and makes her character worth it. Facing off against Leviathan, and brushing a gun away are, while cool, not what i'm looking for when i think about strength of character. I want her to be in control of a situation and have the game show her actually dictating events. Seeing her make that speech to the people, in order to get them to stand up against oppression was a single good step in the right direction.

Totally fair - and as you say, there are at least some signs the character is heading that way, although Kingslgaive does give one pause.

What if there is a slap face minigame featuring Ardyn and Luna?

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Lol, that would be amazing.
 
Stella obsession continues to be the strangest fan reaction I have seen in the last 5 years.

Imagine if a fan got to see inside the game studio at the hundreds of characters that have been concepted and cut from the game. They would literally go insane.

The fact that so many people are seemingly obsessed over a character who never existed outside of moving concept art is pretty ridiculous
 
"Boiling it down"? There were a good number of people in this thread that either called Luna "weak" or made some kind of jab at Tabata's description of Luna being strong, after seeing that slap in the trailer.

If you weren't one of them, then obviously my comment wasn't directed at you.

Its a pattern of Luna's potrayal, it has nothing to do with the slap in a vacuum, that's something your not understanding.


What if there is a slap face minigame featuring Ardyn and Luna?

https://youtu.be/RJmR6jpwNps

Ayyy...that's not gonna be in the remake tho lmao
 
The idea that a strong woman is a manly woman is just so wrong on every level. And that's the only thing I see here in response to the character of Luna. Being resolute and strong doesn't mean fighting with a huge sword you know. And getting slapped what's wrong with it? Even prompto is slapped. So for a man is expected but to a woman is more offensive because is a woman? Genre equality or not? I can't stop seeing all the contradictions.
 
The idea that a strong woman is a manly woman is just so wrong on every level. And that's the only thing I see here in response to the character of Luna. Being resolute and strong doesn't mean fighting with a huge sword you know. And getting slapped what's wrong with it? Even prompto is slapped. So for a man is expected but to a woman is more offensive because is a woman? Genre equality or not? I can't stop seeing all the contradictions.

I don't think anyone here is explicitly saying this. The problem with Luna is she's a generic princess whose purpose is to further the main male character Noctis and right now it doesn't look like there's much beyond that. On top of that, all of the external claims of "strong female character" have really backfired with what we saw in Kingsglaive so it's not hard to see why people are questioning it.
 
I don't think anyone here is explicitly saying this. The problem with Luna is she's a generic princess whose purpose is to further the main male character Noctis and right now it doesn't look like there's much beyond that. On top of that, all of the external claims of "strong female character" have really backfired with what we saw in Kingsglaive so it's not hard to see why people are questioning it.
I mean the most human thing they've shown is a bullshot of her chilling with Gentiana, and even there she's holding a picture of a dude she hasn't seen in 13 years. She's written SOLELY around Noctis and nothing else which as a strongefemalecharacter™ in 2016 isn't very inspiring or relatable.
 
I mean the most human thing they've shown is a bullshot of her chilling with Gentiana, and even there she's holding a picture of a dude she hasn't seen in 13 years. She's written SOLELY around Noctis and nothing else which as a strongefemalecharacter™ in 2016 isn't very inspiring or relatable.

I dunno, i'm just hoping the final product gives me a completely different impression of all this at this point. I'm willing to have my mind completely changed, i'm actually hoping that's the case. Because while i've made no secret of my concerns about this game, i've seen plenty in it to give optimism too.

But Kingsglaive doesn't fill me with much confidence as of now.
 
EVERYTHING in this game is written solely around Noctis. He's the would-be-king, everyone is there to support him rising up to whatever challenges the story throws at him.

Still think some of you are being too harsh on her. She's not physically strong and yeah, a lot of what she does she does for Noctis, but she's still not some weak-ass princess who shies away from danger & hard times. Not the most ideal female character, but far from some insult to women everywhere like some of you portray her as.
 
There are scenes that show her will and resolve is strong i.e Leviathan fight and shrugging off the guards while looking badass. Then there is this slap scene. People will just side with the narrative that fits their agenda while ignoring the rest.
Yes, so many people just see that one thing and doesn't see her determination to help Noctis stood up against Leviathan
You two are no less picking and choosing your own favored narrative. Do remember that the first time Luna was presented, she was a sitting pretty girl, and it wasn't until backlash that we suddenly have unrealistic gun-pushing scene (as if all the soldiers would lower all their guns just because she pushed one out of her face!) and Leviathan.

Oh, it's so great for a female character to be so determined to help the main male character, you know, other than perhaps standing up against Leviathan for reasons unrelated to super special Noctis.

So... if a woman gets slapped, or isn't physically strong... that makes her weak? It's a little sad how so many people in this thread seem to think that the only way for a woman to be considered strong is if she's out there swinging around a sword and kicking butt or something.

Also, I've seen many people talk about how Luna appears to just be another "Yuna" character. Well, even if that's the case, it's not like female characters that go around kicking butt are exactly unique either. They're a dime a dozen nowadays. There's been plenty of female characters in the FF franchise that fit this type.

Either way, I'll reserve judgement on Luna's character until I actually see what she does and says in the game. One quick scene in a trailer isn't enough to make me immediately write her off as a "weak" character.
In the context of the scene, the focus is on Ardyn, without you seeing Luna's face. What that means is Luna took a slap to serve to make Ardyn look more evil. What year is it, that writing scenes with female characters as props to characterize male characters could be excused?

You say that female characters that go around kicking butt are not unique, but name one heroine that doesn't have a shitty male-oriented visual design and isn't plagued by some obligatory romantic subplot? The west is making progress on this front, with their Mirror's Edges and Horizon Zero Dawns. When we ask for better female characters, we are not merely asking for physicality, we are asking for a female character that isn't just a tool being pushed around by all the other male characters. Luna by all means does not fit the bill nor can you excuse that by saying "check out this one scene with Leviathan". As a male you can be satisfied by a crappy little bit of lip service; as a female I am no longer going to tolerate it.
 
EVERYTHING in this game is written solely around Noctis. He's the would-be-king, everyone is there to support him rising up to whatever challenges the story throws at him.

Still think some of you are being too harsh on her. She's not physically strong and yeah, a lot of what she does she does for Noctis, but she's still not some weak-ass princess who shies away from danger & hard times. Not the most ideal female character, but far from some insult to women everywhere like some of you portray her as.
Here's a thing, based on everything they've shown us, can you possibly see her ever getting into conflict or disagreeing with Noctis on anything? That's the difference, we've seen the guys get conflicted multiple times but she seems borderline obsessed with the dude.
 
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