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Disabled Father Killed by Police in Charlotte, NC (Protests Follow)

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wumster3000 said:
My best friend is a cop which is why I said that not all are bad. But feel free to keep on. I can take it.

I never said that this was wrong. I simply said, not all cops are bad.
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Sir. Do you honestly believe that people do not understand that good police exist. Honestly? That's what your beef is? Is that you have to educate everyone that things aren't absolute?

Come on.

I know cops too. Some scumbags some nice people. What does that change about America's institutional problem with police executing people around the clock and having no accountability?

People saying fuck cops aren't talking about the 85 year old sherrif working to keep the town safe in bumblebeefuck ohio. Unless she executes someone and walks with tax paid vacation.
 
JK-Money said:
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That's like three straight seconds walking towards a cop after getting out of the car

He'd never make it
 
Gordon Shumway said:
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This is now the greatest thread EVER!
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I mean...

Dreams-Visions said:
wumster3000 got this piece hangin on the wall tho fam

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ya'll don't even qualify to discuss these matters with him.
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This was probably the point where this turned into something special, and given the original purpose of this thread, that's really unfortunate.

Hilarious, but unfortunate.

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Not throwing shade at you, Dreams, I would have done it too. It's just too perfect.
 
wumster3000 said:
Even the good ones? That blanket statement. We as blacks should know about that blanket statement.

Am I saying this is right? Hell no, but I'm not going to say all of them because that's a Trump.
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A historically racist corrupt institution has good apples sure but when you have complacent cops covering up for their brothers & sisters in arms no matter what, a sprinkling of paid vacations & internal investigations when some gets wrongfully gunned down thanks in part to the mountain of a Union and the few that actually make the right call & resolve a situation without bloodshed run the risk of getting fired.... but if God forbid you do lose your job for committing criminal misconduct don't worry just move to another precinct to find yourself back where you left off.

Knowing all of this, I don't see a problem with people venting at a rotten institution.
 
Banana Aeon said:
Is he working to change the toxic and overtly racist system?
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He tells me the problem is some are afraid to converse with us. The ones that converse, understand us and are less likely to pull a gun and more likely to talk you down. He said SOME, cops are trying to get properly trained. Not in policing, but to protect.

The system is racist, I've been a victim multiple times.
 
wumster3000 said:
He tells me the problem is some are afraid to converse with us. The ones that converse, understand us and are less likely to pull a gun and more likely to talk you down. He said SOME, cops are trying to get properly trained. Not in policing, but to protect.

The system is racist, I've been a victim multiple times.
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Then you fully understand why people say fuck cops. Jesus christ.
 
WetWaffle said:
This reminds me of back in my freshman year of high school, when my Hispanic friend said he was "blacker" than me cause he listened to more rap music. This ain't a competition friend. We're all black.
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nah fam.

See, he's blacker than you'll EVER be. Of course he means no disrespect by it at all. He's not attempting to elevate both his intelligence and blackness above every other black poster by saying something as embryonic and idiotic as that, heaven's no. It's just a simple statement of fact. He's got chitlins, pig's feet and greens on the stove RIGHT FUCKING NOW (and in the same pot!) while watching Roots on his tablet and The Color Purple on his big screen, while jamming to The Wiz soundtrack while wearing King Jaffe Joffer's lionskin robe.

You mothafuckas will never be this fuckin black. And I am proud to serve as the king of black's emissary. It's an honor to put all you sommbitches in your place instead of focusing on the man at the heart of the thread who appears to have been unjustly murdered. We have a cop's HONOR to defend here.
 
wumster3000 said:
He tells me the problem is some are afraid to converse with us. The ones that converse, understand us and are less likely to pull a gun and more likely to talk you down. He said SOME, cops are trying to get properly trained. Not in policing, but to protect.

The system is racist, I've been a victim multiple times.
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Oh fuck that sympathy bullshit. If this was an issue on discussion, it shouldn't be on the onus of the victims to speak. I thought the police were there to protect people.

Maybe if the police weren't murdering people for complying with them, maybe, just fucking maybe we would safer trying to talk to them. But until then, fuck the police, and fuck anyone defending their behavior.
 
It never ceases to amaze me how other groups can have guns on them and even shoot at the cops, yet for some reason they stay alive. Meanwhile the black guys unarmed or not, end up dead every time.
 
commedieu said:
Sir. Do you honestly believe that people do not understand that good police exist. Honestly? That's what your beef is? Is that you have to educate everyone that things aren't absolute?

Come on.

I know cops too. Some scumbags some nice people. What does that change about America's institutional problem with police executing people around the clock and having no accountability?

People saying fuck cops aren't talking about the 85 year old sherrif working to keep the town safe in bumblebeefuck ohio. Unless she executes someone and walks with tax paid vacation.
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I just don't like blanket statements. Since we are always grouped together - drug dealers and gangbangers. I have dreads and when people see me, they assume a lot of things until we have a conversation.

As I stated, I don't know any of you personally. So I am not going to assume anything. But call me out. I don't mind. I'll continue to respond.
 
Measley said:
It never ceases to amaze me how other groups can have guns on them and even shoot at the cops, yet for some reason, its the black guys that end up dead every time.
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Opening fire on a police officer while white is a safer prospect than being black in this country.
 
wumster3000 said:
I just don't like blanket statements. Since we are always grouped together - drug dealers and gangbangers. I have dreads and when people see me, they assume a lot of things until we have a conversation.

As I stated, I don't know any of you personally. So I am not going to assume anything. But call me out. I don't mind. I'll continue to respond.
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The statement is true. Policing in the US IN GENERAL is awful across the board. Anecdotes of good cops does nothing when bad cops get away with murder daily.
 
Banana Aeon said:
Oh fuck that sympathy bullshit. If this was an issue on discussion, it shouldn't be on the onus of the victims to speak. I thought the police were there to protect people.

Maybe if the police weren't murdering people for complying with them, maybe, just fucking maybe we would safer trying to talk to them. But until then, fuck the police, and fuck anyone defending their behavior.
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If that came off as sympathy, that wasn't my intentions. I give no sympathy to ignorant people. I don't care what uniform you are wearing. Especially cops because if their position. This what we are discussing is fucked up. Dude got shot in Tulsa and then this...no excuses. I think there is a severe lack of training as it pertains to knowing your citizens instead of profiling.
 
Gordon Shumway said:
Story seems fishy. None of us have loving caring fathers in our lives, after all..🤔
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Got me fucked up, G. 😭😭😭

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Look at this dude. Out here claiming he's been a victim, but defending policing in the US as a collective with that not all _ tier defence. Claiming people are presumptuous but simultaneously claiming he's blacker than someone will ever be, and in the same paragraph saying he doesn't know who's behind the screen and will respect them as a result.

Magical.

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RIP.
 
platocplx said:
The statement is true. Policing in the US IN GENERAL is awful across the board. Anecdotes of good cops does nothing when bad cops get away with murder daily.
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and more importantly, when they do so and the "good cops" don't step up and say something or do something. Instead, they remain quiet while injustice takes place. Yet we are to call them "the good ones" because they aren't murdering people in the community? Grats on meeting the bare minimum expectation. You aren't murdering people but you're enabling those who do. Thus, you are not actually "good" at all.

Show me the percentage of cops that won't jump to the defense of questionable or crooked happenings by their fellow officers. That won't remain quiet and passive in the face of injustice. I'm gonna go with < 1%.

7DollarHagane said:
I'm confused - one statement says he was armed, the brother says he wasn't but someone else says the brother says he was?
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https://twitter.com/tanyamendis/status/778360427507884032

The interpretation is that he had a gun and had it because non-uniformed officers were approaching without identifying themselves. He may not have meant he had a gun, but that they thought he did and he got out to confront the strangers. Not totally clear but that's the going interpretation.
 
wumster3000 said:
If that came off as sympathy, that wasn't my intentions. I give no sympathy to ignorant people. I don't care what uniform you are wearing. Especially cops because if their position. This what we are discussing is fucked up. Dude got shot in Tulsa and then this...no excuses. I think there is a severe lack of training as it pertains to knowing your citizens instead of profiling.
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Your wrong on that part and its sad that you are. You almost sound like you wanna believe racism is not that bad well I am sorry to tell you it is and it is still a huge problem especially in law enforcement.
 
wumster3000 said:
I just don't like blanket statements. Since we are always grouped together - drug dealers and gangbangers. I have dreads and when people see me, they assume a lot of things until we have a conversation.

As I stated, I don't know any of you personally. So I am not going to assume anything. But call me out. I don't mind. I'll continue to respond.
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You know that black people and police share exactly zero things in common with respect to historical oppression. You're wringing your hands over some bullshit.
 
7DollarHagane said:
I'm confused - one statement says he was armed, the brother says he wasn't but someone else says the brother says he was?
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Most accounts I've seen (particularly, the victim's sister and daughter) say he was not armed. We have a tweet that might suggest the (a?) brother said he was. The police obviously say he was.
 
Dreams-Visions said:
nah fam.

See, he's blacker than you'll EVER be. Of course he means no disrespect by it at all. He's not attempting to elevate both his intelligence and blackness above every other black poster by saying something as embryonic and idiotic as that, heaven's no. It's just a simple statement of fact. He's got chitlins, pig's feet and greens on the stove RIGHT FUCKING NOW (and in the same pot!) while watching Roots on his tablet and The Color Purple on his big screen, while jamming to The Wiz soundtrack while wearing King Jaffe Joffer's lionskin robe.

You mothafuckas will never be this fuckin black. And I am proud to serve as the king of black's emissary. It's an honor to put all you sommbitches in your place instead of focusing on the man at the heart of the thread who appears to have been unjustly murdered. We have a cop's HONOR to defend here.
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I've already forgotten about who just got murdered and the kids who gotta live without a father. I just want to serve under his tutelage.Only a Mega(black)man could cook like that.
 
Dreams-Visions said:
nah fam.

See, he's blacker than you'll EVER be. Of course he means no disrespect by it at all. He's not attempting to elevate both his intelligence and blackness above every other black poster by saying something as embryonic and idiotic as that, heaven's no. It's just a simple statement of fact. He's got chitlins, pig's feet and greens on the stove RIGHT FUCKING NOW (and in the same pot!) while watching Roots on his tablet and The Color Purple on his big screen, while jamming to The Wiz soundtrack while wearing King Jaffe Joffer's lionskin robe.

You mothafuckas will never be this fuckin black. And I am proud to serve as the king of black's emissary. It's an honor to put all you sommbitches in your place instead of focusing on the man at the heart of the thread who appears to have been unjustly murdered. We have a cop's HONOR to defend here.
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I mean, I took it as he's saying he's extra dark but to each his own. Not sure what it has to do with the topic. Another sad day in America and yet shit isn't going to get any better.
 
wumster3000 said:
If that came off as sympathy, that wasn't my intentions. I give no sympathy to ignorant people. I don't care what uniform you are wearing. Especially cops because if their position. This what we are discussing is fucked up. Dude got shot in Tulsa and then this...no excuses. I think there is a severe lack of training as it pertains to knowing your citizens instead of profiling.
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It's kinda sad that you believe that training will stop the police from killing people. If their humanity wasn't enough, what's a slideshow gonna do.
Sch1sm said:
Look at this dude. Out here claiming he's been a victim, but defending policing in the US as a collective with that not all _ tier defence. Claiming people are presumptuous but simultaneously claiming he's blacker than someone will ever be, and in the same paragraph saying he doesn't know who's behind the screen and will respect them as a result.

Magical.
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I have no idea how anyone who has seen the police's service first hand can sit here and defend this shit. It's ludicrous.

Oh good, I won't have to read another bullshit, "Blue Lives Matter" excuse from him.
 
Krejlooc said:
It's basic gun training. That the police are using the gun is no different. Anytime you ever fire a gun, your intent needs to be to kill, because guns are not weapons intended to merely injure.
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Then all the more reason for cops not to shoot unless someone fires at them first.
 
wumster3000 said:
I just don't like blanket statements. Since we are always grouped together - drug dealers and gangbangers. I have dreads and when people see me, they assume a lot of things until we have a conversation.

As I stated, I don't know any of you personally. So I am not going to assume anything. But call me out. I don't mind. I'll continue to respond.
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That's your right to believe saying fuck cops is the same as racism. But you will continue to be checked over that fallacy every day of your life. As one dude chimed in, his uncle is cop that he loves. And he too chimes fuck cops. Because it's a systemic issue. What do you think others that understand the difference between blind ignorant bigotry of people with deeper pigment, and a systemic problem in the justice system, understand that you dont?

Black people don't all have rules that they follow. They don't have a badge that says protect and serve, they don't dishonor that badge by executing people daily. Individuals are individuals in every action they take. The body of police are executing people and getting away with literal murder. Their unions protect them. So it's fuck that.

They aren't being obtuse?

We are always grouped together and always will be. Police accountability and better training will reduce the number of us being executed. One of these things is absolutely nothing like the other.

Remember police aren't a race of people. They are volunteers doing a job, and that job nation wide is having problems with shooting unarmed people, lying, and walking.

You keep mentioning ignorance as if you're the only one with an anecdote about the 1 good cop you know.

I'm not going to shit up this thread anymore. As another one of us is dead. I just hate all lives matter nonsense. Fuck cops surely doesn't mean the good ones, I know this, and maybe one day you will too.
 
Heaven Shard said:
Then all the more reason for cops not to shoot unless someone fires at them first.
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It's especially weird to me when I hear about when police will use a taser on a person, who is clearly incapacitated at that point, and then the cop shoots anyway. Like, I can't even FATHOM the rationale there.
 
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