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Civilization 6 announced, out October 21st
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StrategyFan
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did you mean civ5's weakness?
gamespy/civ4 had some trouble connecting to games but once they started they were generally excellent except for the occasional out-of-sync bug
i even played some 7v7s in civ4. no chance that would last more than a couple turns in civ5
poppedcollar69
Member
rome is the lakers
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
makes you wonder if it's more viable to settle to land with access to coast, than actual coast tiles
Pagusas
Elden Member
has it been confirmed that you can build inland, and build a harbor to become a coastal city (IE build ships/coastal trade routes/ect)??
If so that will change my whole play style! I am a navy civ always and hate having to build the majority of my cities right on the coast.
Pagusas
Elden Member
From my preview, to give you a feel for the visual side of city growth.
That's Rome from one of my games over 200+ turns.
Does the UI scale to high resolutions well?
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
yeah it is
the advantage being a coastal city is that you gain plenty of eureka for naval related stuff (meaning you get naval techs earlier and faster), without the need to build a harbor district, and I think you have "safe zones" as you need to totally encircle the city to lock it down during a siege so unless the enemy has boats, you still have safe spots
the advantage of a city using a harbor is that it means the city probably has more access to land, therefore more places to build districts/improvements/land synergy
This. Single player has always been pretty solid. Real time mulitplayer (as opposed to play-by-email, hotseat, pitboss) has been hit and miss. I'd love to see them nail this aspect.
PeterVenkman
Member
Second this question as a tv comfy couch player. Civ V was kinda rough in regards to this.
From my preview, to give you a feel for the visual side of city growth.
That's Rome from one of my games over 200+ turns.
Have to say I hope they tweak the next era graphical triggers for buildings/improvements. Seeing mines with rail tracks in 1200 AD and modern skyscrapers in 1400's AD is jarring. Also the modern fishing boats.
This was something V did well at. The graphical representation of improvements was in general in line with the calendar as the tech tree was balanced that way. Even if you played an expert research game, you were not triggering the industrial era until 1700's.
I like the change that a harbor can turn an inland city coastal. Building directly on the coast overly restricts expand-ability and is not in line with many of what we consider large coastal cities today. London, Washington DC, Houston, LA, Tokyo, Seoul. All of these have central hubs located a fair distance from their respective coasts which has allowed for more uniform growth outward from the hub and ultimately form metropolises.
Sorry, I meant Civ V. I'll edit my post. But yes, I really hope the netplay is improved. I also meant 10 SECONDS later, not 10 turns later.
CrocMother
Banned
looking at youtube today
MHWilliams
Member
No clue. I'll check in a bit.
From my games, I tend to lean on the "inland, but with access to coast". You'll need the space for districts, wonders, and improvements.
Mengy
wishes it were bannable to say mean things about Marvel
Or unless there are very desirable ocean tiles which can only be reached by a coastal city placement.
LurkerPrime
Member
Nice stuff. Thanks!From my preview, to give you a feel for the visual side of city growth.
That's Rome from one of my games over 200+ turns.
I pre-ordered CivBE and played 4 hours of it in total... dunno what I was thinking.
Civ6 will definitely beat it.
#sorrynotsorry
Member
I'm on board the 2 hours of Beyond Earth train. Loving this though.
Omega Kirby
Member
Meh Beyond Earth was an ok game, the expansion made it a lot better.
Makes me think how good CIV 6 base game will be, since they always start pretty average.
The requirements are lower than Beyond Earths though right?
Makes me think how good CIV 6 base game will be, since they always start pretty average.
The requirements are lower than Beyond Earths though right?
How has performance been, especially late game?
Giant Panda
Member
Even though they're saying diplomacy seems a little undercooked, it still sounds better than Civ 5, which had barebones diplomacy. And I'm sure they flesh it out even more in the expansions (and mods!).
Tony Iron Man Stark
Banned
What graphic card do I need to run this at 1920x1080 60fps?
Will a GTX 960M do?
Will a GTX 960M do?
I'm a very amateur Civ V player, but I got so frustrated with the AI's always demanding unfair deals that I stopped bothering.
I have heard you could trade luxury resources at reasonable rates in Civ V though.
That is plenty for graphics. Civ has historically been CPU intensive, especially in the later turns. A solid CPU is arguably more important as its not a graphically demanding game.
That's always been the case in civ games. Unless you say there's even more desirable ocean tiles than before. Civ 6 makes coastal cities less desirable by having much less land to build districts on.
dapperbandit
Banned
Marbozir's video on the tech and civic trees are great, very informative.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLO6-3VjMeQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MK2X3IxUfLY
Some of the policies in particular are really good, even the somewhat dull +100% yield/production ones. The more interesting ones have cons attached to them, Police State for example reduces happiness (I don't know why they didn't just call it happiness instead of Amenities...) but boosts Espionage. New Deal gives you a nice boost to both housing and amenities but costs -8 gold per city.
The Casus Beli system is also really cool, fleshes out war and diplomacy significantly. There's some great ways to be really mean to the AI with this, for example the Casus Beli that reduces your warmonger penalty for attacking Civs two eras behind stacks nicely with the Colonialism policy that gives you gold equivalent to half the combat strength of each enemy unit you defeat from previous eras.
The potential to max the fuck out of these policies when you combine them with the right Civ and Government and Wonders is insane. For example, if you play as Germany, you get an extra military slot by default. You could then build Alhambra, which gives you another slot, and then you could go for Fascism which gives you an additional 4 military slots (and 2 wildcard slots, which you can put any policy into) and you're set to steamroll everyone. In this instance, you could have 9 military policies active at once. Holy shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLO6-3VjMeQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MK2X3IxUfLY
Some of the policies in particular are really good, even the somewhat dull +100% yield/production ones. The more interesting ones have cons attached to them, Police State for example reduces happiness (I don't know why they didn't just call it happiness instead of Amenities...) but boosts Espionage. New Deal gives you a nice boost to both housing and amenities but costs -8 gold per city.
The Casus Beli system is also really cool, fleshes out war and diplomacy significantly. There's some great ways to be really mean to the AI with this, for example the Casus Beli that reduces your warmonger penalty for attacking Civs two eras behind stacks nicely with the Colonialism policy that gives you gold equivalent to half the combat strength of each enemy unit you defeat from previous eras.
The potential to max the fuck out of these policies when you combine them with the right Civ and Government and Wonders is insane. For example, if you play as Germany, you get an extra military slot by default. You could then build Alhambra, which gives you another slot, and then you could go for Fascism which gives you an additional 4 military slots (and 2 wildcard slots, which you can put any policy into) and you're set to steamroll everyone. In this instance, you could have 9 military policies active at once. Holy shit.
MHWilliams
Member
Mine topped out at 1920x1080 for available resolution options, since that's the native resolution of my monitor. I'm sure I could push it with some tweaks, but the screenshot above are all at my current max.
Seems fine. Turns feel a little longer in the later game, but nothing far out there. I'd be interested in seeing what performance is like for a 400-500 turn game. I tended to top out around 300.
CrocMother
Banned
Based on what I've been seeing, the AI looks...poorly equipped to handle the new mechanics. I know it's locked at Prince but that just effects bonuses, not behavior am I wrong?
Yeah, Civ6 looks to introduce great new gameplay systems but the AI is one thing that I'm more about concerned than usual. I hope them locking previews so far on Prince difficulty isn't because they're trying to hide something.
Edit: I also saw that capturing settles (at least barbarian settlers) gives you the settler intact. That sounds like a bad idea, isn't capturing settlers/workers early a foundation of many deity-level strategies?
CrocMother
Banned
No locking the difficulty on preview builds is standard I think. If the AI isn't good at war, teching/civic selection on Prince however, there is no reason to believe that they will be better at higher difficulties. They will just receive bonuses that mitigate their stupidity.
LurkerPrime
Member
Civ difficulty levels haven't traditionally affected AI much aside from aggressiveness, I think. Like it's mostly AI-side economy benefits and player-side economy penalties.
Actually, does anyone know if there a list of the difficulty options yet (and what they do)?
MHWilliams
Member
Bored, so I'm streaming from the beginning.
BRocknRolla
Member
I could be wrong, but I think what people are getting at here is whether the UI can be scaled depending on the resolution, or if it natively scales well and doesn't get super small at higher resolutions. For example, if I play at 4k, but I'm sitting 8 ft away on my couch, is the text on screen going to be so incredibly small that's it's unreadable. Some games offer the ability to scale the UI to make it larger even though you have a high resolution display. Anything like that in the menus?
Is it addictive? Does it scratch the Civ itch that Beyond Earth could not? Hows the end game?
MHWilliams
Member
Let's put it this way. I normally do an hour for our official streams. Just finished at three hours.
Pagusas
Elden Member
Does anyone else do these, i cant concentrate with his accent unfortunate.
Mengy
wishes it were bannable to say mean things about Marvel
Yeah... there's a couple very good players doing let's plays on 4x games from Europe (I think) but they have accents or just talk in a way that makes it pretty difficult to watch their games for a long period of time. Marbozir isn't that bad though.
dapperbandit
Banned
Literally all he's doing is reading the tool tips so mute the video and put on Baba Yet or something lol
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Philip is the best leader bar none, that smugness
iirc up to three tiles far from the city, essentially the range of workable tiles
coastal cities still have favorable things like faster learning on certain techs and "safe" areas from a ground invasion though
yeah I think i'll go with this route
iirc up to three tiles far from the city, essentially the range of workable tiles
coastal cities still have favorable things like faster learning on certain techs and "safe" areas from a ground invasion though
yeah I think i'll go with this route
Will watch this in a bit. Managed to pick up a copy for some WoW gold, so my hype is in overdrive already.