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Giant Bomb PSVR stream | It's always Summer in PlayStation VR Nation
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Death Metalist
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All games are in the OP in chronological order.
DangerMouse
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DangerMouse
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LOL, stroke his arm Jeff
Necro900
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I have canceled my PSVR preorder weeks ago, and I have to say I'm not regretting it one bit, watching how dull/tech-demoey these games are.
That said, isn't the reviewer too annoyed at the headset?
"why can't I blow away the smoke with my hand!" "there's so much stuff that should catch fire".. I mean, really? Is this the game you want to play?
Everything catches fire and it's game over?
Or like now he's complaining that he can't get the cutting torch out of the npc's hands mid-animation.
Agreed that you shouldn't have free hands in that scene (honestly, that's a major oversight), but I can't really believe he expects in his good faith VR games to be far more complex and interactive than regular games.
Sure, VR is a leap forward in interactivity, but not in the sense of "now i can pick my nose and throw the booger in the npc's face and it sticks".
Also, there are very good reasons why developers might want to limit player agency on the game.. like, narrative purposes, for instance.
The NPC was basically moving the plot forward and you just want to set things on fire? Give me a break.
That said, isn't the reviewer too annoyed at the headset?
"why can't I blow away the smoke with my hand!" "there's so much stuff that should catch fire".. I mean, really? Is this the game you want to play?
Everything catches fire and it's game over?
Or like now he's complaining that he can't get the cutting torch out of the npc's hands mid-animation.
Agreed that you shouldn't have free hands in that scene (honestly, that's a major oversight), but I can't really believe he expects in his good faith VR games to be far more complex and interactive than regular games.
Sure, VR is a leap forward in interactivity, but not in the sense of "now i can pick my nose and throw the booger in the npc's face and it sticks".
Also, there are very good reasons why developers might want to limit player agency on the game.. like, narrative purposes, for instance.
The NPC was basically moving the plot forward and you just want to set things on fire? Give me a break.
PackAPunchedMick
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Good god, Jeff really is the epitome of miserable.
At this point i'm inclined to think it's an act, well i'm hoping so anyway.
At this point i'm inclined to think it's an act, well i'm hoping so anyway.
It's about immersion. When the game isn't immersive in any capacity, I think the shitting on it is justified.
Backfoggen
Banned
Is there a list of games they showed so far?
You disgust me.
Keep in mind they woke up at like 4 am or earlier to get to the studio to do this stream. Its only 9 am where they are now.
Also, they have played all of these games on better hardware, multiple times.
Jeff is just a little frustrated that these games arent more fleshed out at this point, and also the minor tech issues that it seems to be having are also adding to his frustration.
Gtagentleman
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I want that
Death Metalist
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lol that controller was trying to run away.
They probably shouldn't give you a lighter then.
DangerMouse
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Yeah I pretty much agree with that, some of the things he wanted to do seemed desired just to break the cutscene, I don't really expect VR Worlds to be extremely fleshed out stuff. Production values wise like Brad was saying they already look better than I expected.
Though the drift I can understand complaining about.
As for the first bit, VR Worlds is kind of built out of tech demos as a pack in, judging the games by it is kind of unproductive.
Death Metalist
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Especially since this is what will be represented for the masses and it doesn't look like a good first impression. Most of the time, first impressions is everything.
Necro900
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So setting the building on fire ignoring the plot would support your immersion?
Also, I really think you shouldn't expect anything that you haven't already seen in regular games. Especially dumb game-breaking stuff like trying to punch the bad guy during the cutscene or set things on fire.
We'll all do these things for shits and giggles, but I would never get angry expecting things that may break my game to actually happen.
stump sock
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Jibbajabbawockky
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Comparing their attitudes to a lot of this PSVR stuff to something like RecRoom is pretty stark.
Just seems like a lot of the PSVR stuff is going for a lot of polish and production values but in terms of gameplay and what you're actually doing, a lot of it is really bland and tech demo-y.
Just seems like a lot of the PSVR stuff is going for a lot of polish and production values but in terms of gameplay and what you're actually doing, a lot of it is really bland and tech demo-y.
Lister
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The moment it hits a $600 price point is the moment I'll pick it up.
Death Metalist
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This Playstation Worlds thing doesn't interest me since it's more tech demos. Maybe if this was the first VR device I'm seeing in my life then I'd be impressed but Oculus and VIVE have been in the market for a long while.
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You're missing the point with his complaint. Why give you objects and hands to hold them with if you're supposed to ignore them entirely? This design adds or detracts from the immersiveness of the games, and in The Heist's situation, they give you something to ignore the boring as anything story so why would you not mess with it?
Think of it a bit like the uncanny valley. The more immersive an experience is and the closer it approximates a real world simulation in your brain, the more sensitive you are to any factors that break the illusion. If it feels like you should be able to do or see something that isn't actually possible or intended it stands out.
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
I've tried Vive (in a controlled environment). It's cool, but not something I'd call "no compromises". A ton of cables dragging behind you is weird and distracting, and my face got very sweaty after less than 10 minutes of using it - in an air conditioned room. This is bad for a headset with games designed expecting you to basically walk around. Tracking quality and experience was mostly great though (I had two controller tracking misbehaviours in that short time using it, but it corrected itself quickly as I kept moving hands around).
I think the price difference is too big between PSVR and Vive to justify something that's still not where it needs to be for pleasant, comfortable use. That's my only justification for leaning towards PSVR - and also the fact that I can return it worry-free to Best Buy if I don't like it.
EnlightenedMint
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DangerMouse
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This demo looks so good.
Exactly, you can tell from the early reviews that Jeff's sentiment is echoed throughout those as well.
The problem is that PSVR right now is a closed environment. The thing that makes the Vive so great is that its on PC and there are tons of developers making wacky ass shit to play around in. Playstation VR games right now arent in that same mindset, and I worry they never will.
Lister
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But I was told Sony was bringing in the big AAA!
No tech demos here, just pure 50 hours, graphical set piece, super interactive, extravaganzas!
Death Metalist
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Playstation VR Worlds - Scavengers Odyssey
All games played are in the OP in chronological order.
| Praxis |
Banned
I sold my Vive. The tech is impressive, but there's just too many things holding VR back at the moment for me. Maybe in a generation or two the problems will be ironed out, the line up won't consist of shallow experiences and the headset will be smaller.
PSVR looks to be more of the same, only with less impressive technology and tied to a closed system. Definitely not what I am looking for.
PSVR looks to be more of the same, only with less impressive technology and tied to a closed system. Definitely not what I am looking for.
hemo memo
You can't die before your death
That's awful. It's fun to watch yes but I don't think I can take more than 10 minutes on this.
FarFromAnyGame
Banned
They've been streaming for 4 hours since 5 am! Of course they're tired!
GuyKazama
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Necro900
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There's a cigar on the table, that's what you're supposed to use the lighter with.
You can light the cigar and that's it, really,and it's the most reasonable thing to do in that situation.
I'd argue not wanting to feel immersed and doing dumb shit actually hinders immersion, but that's me.
DangerMouse
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A lot of games will be relatively stationary and sitting so you could always try those.
funkystudent
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Did they just hire the Cortana lady for this?