QuiteWhittle
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Bolded is what I'm really worried about.
Final Fantasy XV TwitchCon Presentation Stream
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Bolded is what I'm really worried about.
Honestly though, does it really matter with music?
I mean, it's not a movie or game where the spatial panning has to match the visuals.I've said it before, but remember how with MGSV by the time it came out we had basically seen at least part of 95% of all the cutscenes in the game through the trailers. I don't get the vibe from FFXV at all.
so you want them to lose sales?
I've been keeping track of some of the biggest haters' Metascore bets. My bookmarks never forget
Like this:
I will, I will
I've been keeping track of some of the biggest haters' Metascore bets. My bookmarks never forget
Like this:
I'm looking forward to this almost as much as I am looking forward to the game.
GOTY for sure now, i can see it now
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LOL. Ironically, my original post was longer and I wanted to post this image asking you if the Twitch rip isn't actually matching that setup (I'm no expert). The piano is panned left in the Twitch rip, no?
Anyway, my point was this: does the absolute panning really matter as long as the relative panning is correct? I don't see a reason why there'd be a difference for the listener if everything would be mirrored (besides them being irritated because they're musicians themselves and are just used to it being the one way). Am I overlooking something? Teach me, Faruko-senpai.
Piano is in this weird position where for a LOT of material, given the choice people tend to pan according to player's perspective, or LH left and RH right, across a wide stereo spread.
This is opposed to e.g. the rest of an orchestral ensemble or big band where you always pan according to audience perspective, or stuff like drums in band repertoire where wars have broken out w.r.t audience perspective (HH right) vs drummer's perspective (HH left)
I prefer that piano convention as well, even if it's a bit of suspension of disbelief as to its position in an orchestra, because 1) people are really, REALLY used to hearing it that way from the vast majority of contemporary records out today and 2) it actually plays nice when mixing for orchestra, since LH left and RH right means the bass frequencies are concentrated towards the left, which then doesn't fight for the same space as strings bass frequencies on the right. Ditto treble on piano (right) vs highs on strings (left).
edit @ edit: it's not just so much musicians as it is people simply used to the sound of an orchestra generally being seated a certain way. Musicians playing in an orchestra obviously hear things very differently from an audience. (it's always a shit ton of percussion someone send help)
This is opposed to e.g. the rest of an orchestral ensemble or big band where you always pan according to audience perspective, or stuff like drums in band repertoire where wars have broken out w.r.t audience perspective (HH right) vs drummer's perspective (HH left)
I prefer that piano convention as well, even if it's a bit of suspension of disbelief as to its position in an orchestra, because 1) people are really, REALLY used to hearing it that way from the vast majority of contemporary records out today and 2) it actually plays nice when mixing for orchestra, since LH left and RH right means the bass frequencies are concentrated towards the left, which then doesn't fight for the same space as strings bass frequencies on the right. Ditto treble on piano (right) vs highs on strings (left).
edit @ edit: it's not just so much musicians as it is people simply used to the sound of an orchestra generally being seated a certain way. Musicians playing in an orchestra obviously hear things very differently from an audience. (it's always a shit ton of percussion someone send help)
What really blows people's minds is when they realize he isn't reacting to the game but that they are showing him picking his nose on the jumbotron.
dragonzdogma
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*GOOD morning everyone*
Ah, yes good o'l FFXV thread, falk and his music shenanigans,insecure FF fans, awesome gifs,
dev glorification or damnation,Tyaren perfect positivity,Koozek broken promises ( he couldn't go on media black out),sad countdowns
and a bunch of random post to keep the FFXV discussions alive.
Everything is just the way it should be.
Ah, yes good o'l FFXV thread, falk and his music shenanigans,insecure FF fans, awesome gifs,
dev glorification or damnation,Tyaren perfect positivity,Koozek broken promises ( he couldn't go on media black out),sad countdowns
and a bunch of random post to keep the FFXV discussions alive.
Everything is just the way it should be.
Interesting, thanks for the info!Piano is in this weird position where for a LOT of material, given the choice people tend to pan according to player's perspective, or LH left and RH right, across a wide stereo spread.
This is opposed to e.g. the rest of an orchestral ensemble or big band where you always pan according to audience perspective, or stuff like drums in band repertoire where wars have broken out w.r.t audience perspective (HH right) vs drummer's perspective (HH left)
I prefer that piano convention as well, even if it's a bit of suspension of disbelief as to its position in an orchestra, because 1) people are really, REALLY used to hearing it that way from the vast majority of contemporary records out today and 2) it actually plays nice when mixing for orchestra, since LH left and RH right means the bass frequencies are concentrated towards the left, which then doesn't fight for the same space as strings bass frequencies on the right. Ditto treble on piano (right) vs highs on strings (left).
edit @ edit: it's not just so much musicians as it is people simply used to the sound of an orchestra generally being seated a certain way. Musicians playing in an orchestra obviously hear things very differently from an audience. (it's always a shit ton of percussion someone send help)
Oh, and I meant that only musicians/people who know about that stuff even notice things like that when listening to the audio on speakers. I'm sure 99% of the normal folks listening would never notice any difference of the instruments' panning (at least not consciously). This is like most people having disgusting TV image factory settings without ever even noticing it. It's mind-blowing what some of my friends were playing on for years before I recalibrated it for them
LOL, that GIF reminds me of the Symphonic Odyssey Uematsu tribute concert in Cologne I attended a few years ago (or was it Symphonic Fantasies?). The part with the huge hammer was hilarious. I think, incidentally, it was during the King's Knight suite (the old Square game from Sakaguchi they remade as a mobile game in the FFXV universe), not sure, though.
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Did you have to bring attention to that?
To be fair, I'm following these threads a lot less than in the past. Just skipping through pages here and there. When that other thread started the Versus discussion again I could only shake my head and stop reading. It's gotten so incredibly tiring and boring. The same old arguments for years now.
More impressions coming out, again thanks to Storm on Mognet:
http://www.redbrick.me/gaming/egx-hands-on-final-fantasy-xv/
That wasn't a cloud passing by. That was my hype boner blocking out the sun.
http://www.redbrick.me/gaming/egx-hands-on-final-fantasy-xv/
That wasn't a cloud passing by. That was my hype boner blocking out the sun.
FalsettoVibe
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Let the hype flow through you:
New preview from today (thanks to Mognet's @Storm for posting it):
Final Fantasy XV Hands-On: I Couldn't Put It Down
After years of delay, Final Fantasy XV will finally see the light of day on November 29. And an extended hands-on demo with the $60 Final Fantasy XV has pulled off something I never expected — it's reinvigorated my interest in the title. I've gotten a chance to see what Final Fantasy XV has to offer beyond just pretty graphics, and beneath its shiny exterior beats the heart of a very ambitious role-playing game.
I got to take a deep dive into Final Fantasy XV at a Square Enix press event today (Oct. 5). Unlike FFXV’s E3 demo this past June, which was one enormous battle scene, I got to play from a combat tutorial all the way through Chapter III of this seemingly massive title. What I played was an ambitious and tremendously entertaining combination of Western world design and Japanese character-building. If you ever wished that Final Fantasy and The Witcher could have a baby, it’d look a lot like FFXV.
The Last One
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Nice previews.
The Emperor
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It is useless to resist haters...let the XV hype flow through you.
But seriously...I have always felt people have under-estimated this title for a while now (since Duscae probably). It's incredibly ambitious yet unique in its identity in a way many AAA games aren't anymore. In the way the world is designed and in the fusion of its systems.
FF is coming back to the top. 90 + metacritic, GOTY awards etc.
Now I only hope they market it better than their shoddy efforts so far and WOM spreads like wildfire.
If nothing it will at least set enough goodwill for the VII remake to blow the series out wide again.
But seriously...I have always felt people have under-estimated this title for a while now (since Duscae probably). It's incredibly ambitious yet unique in its identity in a way many AAA games aren't anymore. In the way the world is designed and in the fusion of its systems.
FF is coming back to the top. 90 + metacritic, GOTY awards etc.
Now I only hope they market it better than their shoddy efforts so far and WOM spreads like wildfire.
If nothing it will at least set enough goodwill for the VII remake to blow the series out wide again.
Lots of people (rightfully) worried about the embarassing marketing campaing of the game, but if these previews are an indication, i think it will end up selling many copies just by word of mouth, kinda like other JRPGs did in the last (Persona 4, Xenoblade), but on a bigger scale worhty of FF.
Because honestly it feels like anyone who tried the game in the last few months came out at least positively impressed by it.
Because honestly it feels like anyone who tried the game in the last few months came out at least positively impressed by it.
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This reminds me that Hibike! Euphonium season 2 starts today!
Thanks, Falk. Let's cheer for Kumiko X Reina together!
DREAM SOLISTEEEEEEEEEEER
dragonzdogma
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So far the overwhelming majority of previews and hands-on reports in the last couple of months have been positive to very positive. I do only remember one or two that were less enthusiastic, but even they said the game made an okay to good impression. The game really seems to be turning out well. 
rayman1900
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Very good impressions! I'm so hyped I can't contain myself !
Nah. Gonna hype it up. Because my prediction hasn't changed with the weather. I'm ok with it.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
Screw that ppl have been screaming doom for years you damn right ppl are going to point to these previews
Whoever wrote this really needs to spend an hour or two reading up on how to use commas and semicolons; the punctuation made this painful to read.
Otherwise a good preview, I'm hyped.
I don't think you're wrong, but I think everyone being positive about the previews was already buying it anyway, they're just glad to see that people are apparently enjoying it.
If anyone wasn't interested at all before and will buy now just because of the impressions, then I'll agree with you.
Basically this. It's just nice to hear some voices of reason backing us up from time to time. And we're gonna go ahead and enjoy it.
Nah I'm just saying it's still a little early to call out the haters.
This, I will agree with. I am not doing my "I told you so" dance until the review thread. But do expect Gifs
Today, we're just enjoying some good ol' hype. It's put pep in my step.
Oh, right. Yeah, you're definitely right about this, I just don't really pay attention to this kind of stuff anymore, haha.
Periscope of an event with Tabata: https://www.periscope.tv/joseppe10/1zqJVVdvWAmJB?
AkirraKrylon
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Been watching this for the last few minutes.
As far as I know this is an area we haven't seen before. Some really cool looking monster designs and a much different environment from what we've seen thus far.
It's the same area they showed in the Twitch presentation
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
I'm not the biggest trophy guy..I feel that getting the plat for this game is almost necessary lol
AkirraKrylon
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Ahh ok. Makes sense...I only watched the death trailer and not the whole presentation.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
O god..I forgot about that. Boss spoilers,possible locals,hidden stuff. Once it leaks that truly is time to get off the internet. When should it leak