Coonce
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I'm glad Dan said something about how people in chat are either experiencing the same issues, or not at all. It seems to be hit or miss right now.
Giant Bomb PSVR Launch Day Support Stream | Not what you're looking for
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I'm glad Dan said something about how people in chat are either experiencing the same issues, or not at all. It seems to be hit or miss right now.
That's overly harsh and it's subjective. I'm personally not invested, but most people seem to be enjoying it. He probably genuinely enjoys it himself. Posts like this aren't much better than the one you replied to.
wesleyshark
Banned
Yeah it's a real shame more people aren't mindlessly throwing $400-560 dollars at something that could be fine, could be somewhat mediocre, or could be really fucked up.
Yeah I was super worried after the last stream but got mine today and I've had no issues with it. Will be interested to hear if this is a more widespread issue or what exactly might be causing it.
Sleeping Lesson
Member
Would it have satisfied this notion if they'd turned all the studio lights off and tried it?
Some headsets seem to work just fine. Different people have different experiences. That's not surprising, it's the first product.
Let's just all relax for a moment here. It's all right. Everything is fine. Kingdom Hearts 3 is still coming out.
They 👏 tried 👏 various 👏 lighting 👏 setups
Coonce
Member
you can't please these people, Jeff has stated time and time again that they shut all the lights off, dimmed them, removed the screen and the problems still persisted, but people blindly look past that.
giant_frying_pan
Member
I have. I've used the product. Until Dawn? It was fine.
Resident Evil 7? I had to re-calibrate every two minutes (this was at a PlayStation run event in an extremely dark room).
PSVR is something that I may well purchase myself in the future. It has the strongest software lineup of all three of the main HMDs at launchy (check my post history if you want confirmation of my opinion of that).
However, it's clear that it's an imperfect implementation of VR. There are very real problems aznd people that have shelled out $400 in preorders are understandably keen to justify their investment.
Rather than put stock in those with vested interests (i.e. your suggestion that I consider the GAF PSVR OT) I'd rather trust those that I know are impartial.
jeff killed vr again
Yeah, now they're out in the wild, something can be narrowed down hopefully.
No, you need some light. Pitch black didn't work on mine, also, my behind the camera box light I use for streaming threw it off. But just the room light seems to work great.
Sleeping Lesson
Member
I was hoping that user would reply to me and activate my trap. I don't think I was sneaky enough.
stump sock
Member
Also if people are worried about Sony losing sales they should probably be paying more attention to the fact that we just watched 6.5 hours of largely unappealing experiences than the fact that the sensors jiggle a little under certain conditions.
I don't think VR is about games. It just isn't and there's nothing I've seen that proves me wrong.
VR is a great technology that will have games built for it (maybe even great games) but the future of VR won't be games. As I've said before, Facebook didn't buy Oculus because of video games.
Sony making a VR headset is, honestly, baffling to me. They are the one company that is totally weird in this race. Which I guess is way I'm very curious what they will do with it.
I think consumer VR is going to be mobile and professional VR is what the Vive will be. That's my guess right now.
Sony VR is just a weird middle of the road thing that's too expensive for casual use and doesn't offer the access to working tools that Vive and Oculus will offer.
Death Metalist
Member
It's also been out for around 24 hours. So we'll just say the jury is still out. I hope I'm wrong. I really do.
maybe a new improved camera should have been released and dropped the cost of the old camera for entry level streamers. I picked up one last night and played most of the demos before going to bed. Everything went great even when I setup in a buddys place with lots of stuff in the way. So far I like PSVR as an entry level VR. The thing that I hated was the load times in almost complete darkness and the length of those load times at least from what I experienced on the demo disk.
I get where you are coming from, and I agree that the biggest market of VR in the later future will not be gaming related.
But I still think it has a place in gaming, Budget Cuts was the game that opened my eyes to that.
wesleyshark
Banned
I had a hearty laugh at the admission. Unreal.
Yeah, seriously. Of the 3 PSVR games I'd be interested in, two of them don't require VR and one of those is a rerelease of a 15 year old game.
DangerMouse
Member
I know they did that and problems persisted, that's fine.
Also, with the couch closer Brad seemed to have less problems today than last week overall.
Maybe in their case it's both hardware and software or something else in the room. Either way light tracking is finicky shit so I don't blame them for it, but it makes me feel better after spending the money that the amount of issues people have seems to vary.
It makes me laugh that posters are trying to dismiss GB's issues by insisting there are so many people playing without issue - meanwhile GB attempted to get a multiplayer game going with one of the biggest releases and can't even find 1 other person in matchmaking.
It's almost like the product is very new and it's impossible to get a genuine consensus yet...
It's almost like the product is very new and it's impossible to get a genuine consensus yet...
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Got the Shakes
Member
I ordered a bundle this morning well aware of the potential issues. Took the leap because the only way to know for sure at this point is to try it in my specific setup. If there's issues then it will be going back to Amazon.
Almost everyone in the thread is talking about tracking issues. If we talk about a multiplayer game having busted matchmaking on day 1, we may as well write off videogames entirely.
It does seem to be the matchmaking because I was searching for the same games they were and didn't match.
MassiveNights
Banned
The launch OT is far from glowing from what I've just seen after a quick browse. It's hit or miss.
Some people are loving it, some people are having issues, some people just don't like it.
stump sock
Member
the thing is, the pc-based headsets are less bound to that. like other people are saying, gaming is probably not the future of VR, which puts this one in a weird place. there will be some really neat applications for VR in the near future, but when it comes to PSVR, what else will there be?
Yep.
Yeah even if these games were working perfectly at a higher fidelity than they actually are, I haven't seen anything worth it's launch price, let alone the price of the VR headset. There just isn't much there.
So anyone who buy's a psvr may or may not have to remove most of there furniture. That's a good advertisement!
giant_frying_pan
Member
Due to NDAs....no, they haven't.
Oh but you're the guy that said this:
Good of you to provide full disclosure like that.
xenorevlis
Member
I know they tried stuff, but based on this particular stream it seems they don't actually know what they need to look out for. Video tracking by its very nature is limited in scope and has several issues. You can see the same problems when using a webcam to do simple facial capture (Logitech, Adobe Character Animator, etc.).
I'm not really bothered, but I do have some history with Jeff (and previously Ryan) and like GiantBomb, so naturally I want them to have a better experience and not feel nauseous. Also, Brad did run into tracking issues a few times today.
DangerMouse
Member
Okay? Cute drive-by.
I'm still "wait and see" on that front but I'm not discarding VR video games entirely. I think game devs are creative enough to do cool stuff with any piece of technology really. I think VR will be its own genre with a bunch of cool stuff to play.
I still wouldn't recommend a PS VR to anyone. If you are an enthusiast you are better with a Vive and if you are casual you are better just waiting until mobile VR gets to a better place or just buy a Pixel and Google Daydream.
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shiftplusone
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with the couch moved, Brad had some drifting issues but yeah the overall experience seemed better for him until that last game. that was really bad.
the green screen area is also the same area they use for their vive and oculus stuff, with 0 issues.
best case scenario, sony's solution for tracking is far behind the other 2 headsets
stump sock
Member
yeah after like, what, 30 hours+ of these streams, it's become pretty clear to me that if you're really into VR, you should just buy a vive, no question. anything else seems like a bad compromise.
I just hope Pixel is much better than Gear. I couldn't use that at all with the horrific screen door even with, uh, "specialist material".
You know what was the even bigger issue they ran into? Heavily compromised and borderline-shovelware games.
Ain't no tweaking gonna fix that.
Perfect.
*nodds*
giant_frying_pan
Member
Don't be silly. PSVR is perfect and it's only Giant Bomb having issues on the whole of the internet because: reasons.
One potential of VR that they talked about on the Bombcast is 3D modeling.
Like, right now 3D modeling is actually 2D modeling since you have to project the 3D models in a 2D surface. But VR completely solves this and you can mold stuff in a full 3D plan. It's awesome and a big advancement in modeling. I would even say this will be how all 3D stuff is made in the future.
Welcome to VR in general.
Nah, Mr. Hot take, that wasn't the bigger issue. But yes, a lot of it is flaming garbage.
And don't even buy a Vive now, wait for the new controllers to come out.