The NX Prediction / BSpeculation / Fanxiety Thread

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This is intriguing. Very intriguing.

I called it! I said NX would be multiple devices and this hybrid would just be the first coming.

Erm, we knew all along it was multiple devices based on Iwata's interviews, but some here continued to dismiss it for an odd reason only wanting one device.

Also, she didn't say which one is coming first, the console or the handheld.

I don't understand any of this, really. People keep stating the obvious and be surprised by it. It was stated all the way back in 2013.
 
As o said it before I expect

NX Hybrid (6inch Portable and docking station, detachable controller, 128GB SD Card, Dock has USB port for external HDD)
$300 - March 2017


NX Console (Micro Sized Console, Normal Controller, 500GB internal HDD, console has USB port for external HDD
$200 - Fall 2017


NX Handheld (5 inch Portable, Slide out controller not detachable, 128GB SD Card, option to buy a seperate controller and Dock for TV play)
$200 - Q3 2018

This would confuse all the potential buyers, IMO.
 
Erm, we knew all along it was multiple devices based on Iwata's interviews, but some here continued to dismiss it for an odd reason only wanting one device.

Also, she didn't say which one is coming first, the console or the handheld.

I don't understand any of this, really. People keep stating the obvious and be surprised by it. It was stated all the way back in 2013.

Again, I already explained this: I was just pointing out the rift that is going to continue to grow between the AMD crowd and the hybrid crowd.
 
They are swimming in cash and all games they have made have sold really really well. I really don't see the problem with a NX port of it only does 1 million worldwide

If they could count on a million sales they might go for it. If the NX comes out of the gate hot it may happen. Or they may announce for the NX later on, I have no idea. My gut tells me they are just doing their own thing and waiting for the userbase to become attractive.
 
My prediction:
NX Hybrid launching first in March. $250, maybe $300 bundle.

NX console in 2018 (the date might be later, depending on when they feel they get VR ready for mass consumption or 4k is a necessity so maybe 2019/20), 4k/VR support in order to keep up with market demand.

*New* NX Hybrid launching in 2019. Like the new 3DS but with a resolution bump.

Probably no Beyond Good and Evil 2 exclusivity.
 
So do I, but with the NES Mini in stores around Christmas, the last thing Nintendo wants is another name confusion fiasco.

NES Mini is part of the "Classics" line. That might be enough to separate the two.
 
The thing I don't understand about the possibility of a family of devices is : if there is a home console in the works, why the hell release the handheld/hybrid first while the Wii U is clearly dead and the 3DS has still games planned ?
Why not release the console first ? To build up an install base for the new NX ecosystem and then it will be easier to launch the console ?
 
I hated that the WiiU needed the tablet controller to turn on. Mine would always be dead and I would have to wait to play on my TV. This sounds no different.

Yes that's something I don't like. I always thought they'd give us an option through an update to completely turn off the tablet.

Everybody had different use cases for things. If you're Nintendo you're trying to make a device that can satisfy as many of them as possible. I think Nitnendo is willing to sacrifice the limited number of people who won't consider buying a hybrid for whatever reason, and try to attract the much larger group of people that have no use for something that they can only interact with in front of their TV. I think your concern about the dormant tablet under someone's television is a bit overwrought. The problem with the console market in general is that it's shrinking and appealing to the narrower market over time. That needs to be addressed if the dedicating gaming market is to continue thriving, and Nintendo has to try something new to preserve their own stake in the market writ large.

If you're Nintendo and wanting to satisfy everyone, then you'll need to release devices that will cater for everyone, not just one device that is basically a handheld that can be played on TV. That is limiting imo. Having the same games and architecture on all their devices is the way to go.

Also I don't believe the console market is shrinking at all. The sales of the PS4s and Xbox Ones are still going strong.

I'd like to add that I don't just want another third party console. I'm also after Nintendo's innovation and what they might bring next to the table, and the hybrid part doesn't fall under that for me.
 
The thing I don't understand about the possibility of a family of devices is : if there is a home console in the works, why the hell release the handheld/hybrid first while the Wii U is clearly dead and the 3DS has still games planned ?
Why not release the console first ? To build up an install base for the new NX ecosystem and then it will be easier to launch the console ?
If you release the more powerful one first then the handheld won't be able to run the game natively and you'd need to work on ports with the system's library starting at 0. If you start with a weaker one you can run the games natively on more powerful hardware like PS4->Pro.
Also, as for why it's a hybrid, there are certain games not possible on a handheld form factor. Local multiplayer games like MK8/Smash and Just Dance wouldn't work unless you allowed it to plug into a TV
 
The thing I don't understand about the possibility of a family of devices is : if there is a home console in the works, why the hell release the handheld/hybrid first while the Wii U is clearly dead and the 3DS has still games planned ?
Why not release the console first ? To build up an install base for the new NX ecosystem and then it will be easier to launch the console ?

Also the hybrid/handheld first basically holds down the power potential of a console.

If a 4 teraflop console comes out first, they can wait a year to release a really nice handheld.

If they come out with a 720p handheld, how powerful can the console be in the future?

The technology is there for a console, it might be there yet for a handheld.
 
NES Mini is part of the "Classics" line. That might be enough to separate the two.

I guess. Still, it would be easier if they just avoided the possibility of confusion altogether. No matter what they call it, I reckon it will be hard for most of us on here to stop calling it the NX at first.
 
As o said it before I expect

NX Hybrid (6inch Portable and docking station, detachable controller, 128GB SD Card, Dock has USB port for external HDD)
$300 - March 2017


NX Console (Micro Sized Console, Normal Controller, 500GB internal HDD, console has USB port for external HDD
$200 - Fall 2017


NX Handheld (5 inch Portable, Slide out controller not detachable, 128GB SD Card, option to buy a seperate controller and Dock for TV play)
$200 - Q3 2018

Boy am I glad you don't work at Nintendo. What a mess. And you're going to lock out people buying the console from the dual motion controllers? What do they need to purchase those separately?
 
Boy am I glad you don't work at Nintendo. What a mess. And you're going to lock out people buying the console from the dual motion controllers? What do they need to purchase those separately?

Not that I agree with this idea, I'm pretty sure the Wii Motion+ controllers will pretty much be the same thing as any detachable controller fragment. Except the Wii Motion+ will probably have a better form factor and more buttons.
 
If you're Nintendo and wanting to satisfy everyone, then you'll need to release devices that will cater for everyone, not just one device that is basically a handheld that can be played on TV. That is limiting imo. Having the same games and architecture on all their devices is the way to go.

Also I don't believe the console market is shrinking at all. The sales of the PS4s and Xbox Ones are still going strong.

I'd like to add that I don't just want another third party console. I'm also after Nintendo's innovation and what they might bring next to the table, and the hybrid part doesn't fall under that for me.

We'll have to wait and see what innovations there are aside from just being a hybrid device. I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on the hybrid portion. I think you're right that additional form factors could pop up if the demand is there.

In terms of the console market shrinking, it's not that the Xbox One and PS4 aren't doing well. They are just a smaller portion of the overall gaming market than the previous generation of consoles, and analysts don't predict that changing over the next several years. Mobile/Tablets and PCs are growing in mindshare with gamers compared to consoles, and the response from console makers has been to become more iterative with their hardware releases like the mobile industry and mimic the PC architecture as closely as possible. I don't relish in the trend but it is the reality of the situation.
 
If there are multiple devices releasing in the future I just hope they make it clear from the first reveal so people won't feel screwed over if a console only NX comes out in the future.
 
My guess is that Nintendo hedges their bets with not only Mario iOS. But some other big seller like Wii Fit iOS next year. I also think Nintendo develops and releases the "Official" controller for iOS. By Xmas 2017 you will be able to play on Apple TV, iPad, and iPhone with a controller.
 
Aaaah, there we go, a tweet about a video they released yesterday. (To be fair, it IS about the Pokémon demo.)
 
I think the hybrid and detach controller will be used as Nintendo's huge gimmick and for the marketing campaign. Whether it's successful or not we don't know. What I do think is they would go for something standard as Sony and MS have that covered.

Gimmicks will be things like add Pokewalker functionality when playing the game on handheld mode.

Take your dog out for a walk on Nintendogs when in handheld mode.

Play Pikmin using the touchscreen controls in handheld mode.

Create levels on Mario Maker using handheld mode.

Play 4 player Mario Kart on the TV split screen or 2 players with the detachable controllers on the handheld or 1 player just using the tablets motion sensors or the traditional detachable controllers.

Lots of games will have at least 2 player option due to detachable controllers. Mario Maker has 2 players, even Zelda has optional 2 player Co op.
 
My guess is that Nintendo hedges their bets with not only Mario iOS. But some other big seller like Wii Fit iOS next year. I also think Nintendo develops and releases the "Official" controller for iOS. By Xmas 2017 you will be able to play on Apple TV, iPad, and iPhone with a controller.

To play NX games? If so, what is the point of NX existing?

Except every rumor confirms that there will be. The two detachable controllers act as motion controllers, kinda like WiiMote and Nunchuck.

FWIW EG said after their article was posted that each detachable controller is a separate, individual controller, so two total, so more like two separate Wiimotes (perhaps played sideways as traditional controllers just as often), one per player. That's if they've got that bit right, though.
 
This whole thing is hysterical and we only have ourselves to blame... There was only one official remark regarding the NX being presented this year, in the fall.
Everything else is pure speculation based on pseudo-insiders and twitter users who like to make stuff up for their 15 minutes of fame (at least most of them)...
 
Emily Rogers said:
@ArcadeGirl64 I should clarify. You should only expect what is written in my pinned blog post. Don't expect a super powerful x86 console.

AMD crowd wetting itself.
 
Not that I agree with this idea, I'm pretty sure the Wii Motion+ controllers will pretty much be the same thing as any detachable controller fragment. Except the Wii Motion+ will probably have a better form factor and more buttons.

Yes, but suggesting that only a "standard controller" would be bundled with the console is rubbish. Why not bundle the two detachable controllers with a plastic center-thing to make them act as a regular controller instead?
 
To play NX games? If so, what is the point of NX existing?

To play iOS games. NX will be a separate entity...for now.

We are about to see a revolution in mobile gaming. When they go from tap games and endless runners to games like simplified Snes games. Nintendo and Sony will lead this charge. The Candy Crush, and Angry birds of the world will still exist. But so will console gaming experiences on mobile.

Playing Final Fantasy VII on your phone with a standard Bluetooth controller. We will start seeing ports from other games as well. RPGs, Platformers and sport games seem likely IMHO. No reason. Why we could play a game like Madden 05 or Madden Wii on our phone now.
 
Okay tommorow will be the day they will announce it they couldn't do it today due to Red Dead and Pokemon demo "rocks on chair awaiting NX reveal, whispering soon"
 
This whole thing is hysterical and we only have ourselves to blame... There was only one official remark regarding the NX being presented this year, in the fall.
Everything else is pure speculation based on pseudo-insiders and twitter users who like to make stuff up for their 15 minutes of fame (at least most of them)...

Yeah... if the reveal (whenever it may come) leaves anyone feeling disappointed I hope people will remember this.
 
Sorry, who is John Harker and why is it cheating if he actually participates in the thread?

.... other than fan of The Dark Tower series.
 
Yes, but suggesting that only a "standard controller" would be bundled with the console is rubbish. Why not bundle the two detachable controllers with a plastic center-thing to make them act as a regular controller instead?

They may be two separate controllers. That what EG said at least. Wasn't sure if you saw ny post on the last page.

To play iOS games. NX will be a separate entity...for now.

Oh, I see. Hm. I think it's unlikely they'll develop a controller for non-proprietary HW, but we'll see.

If a Direct is on Friday...

I guess we'll know by tomorrow?

Probably by Thursday. But, that's if information this week comes through a Direct at all.
 
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