NX Preview Trailer Tomorrow at 10am ET, is 3 minutes long

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Im in a weird position right now. I have to get up in 1hr 20min. Only rsn im up is cuz i had to pull a late sesh to do an assignment. Should i sleep or should i just stay up...class at 8am. If i sleep there is a 60% chance ill pass out n miss NX reveal n my class lol.
 
The industry is fine?
The handheld part isn't. Neither is the mid tier developer and AAA devopment is seeing the least amount of releases ever with hardly anyone doing anything creative or taking any risks. Indies are somewhat picking up the slack but they're not a replacement for the mid tier developer.
 
We don't really have rumored specs, though.

The only credible sources put this somewhere between Wii U and Xbox One, with no commitment on where on the spectrum it'd fall. The only thing we kind of know is that it's GPU solution is Nvidia and probably related to Tegra.

Pascal based tegra, better cpu than Xbone / PS4 (I know that doesnt take a lot, but still), 3, 4 times Wii U flops.
 
I always have more games than I can play, either in my backlog or in my wishlist. There are always interesting games coming up, the industry is fine.

"I have games to play, so the industry is fine"
I like the logic.

On a more serious note, I think that instead of talking about the industry, we can all agree that it would be extremely boring without Nintendo's quirks and games.
(and Iwata ;_;)
 
We know it's Pascal, and we know it's WiiU <<< NX < X1.

If the final unit has active cooling that may not be the exact case. Thraktor posted about it way back in this thread, that active cooling with their custom Pascal chip throws a wrench in what we thought we knew. Meaning, it opens up the possibility of >XB1 power, and at FP16 (which UE4 for instance uses heavily) >PS4 performance.

Not that the above is likely, as it would likely be more expensive than Nintendo wants.

At this point all we can safely say is that the GPU is much more powerful than that of the Wii U and the CPU is likely going to surpass those of the PS4/XB1.
 
Would jizz for three years straight if galaxy 3 got announced

Completely outta left field wish would be Dark Souls 1 remaster so i can finally play that fucking game.
 
Im in a weird position right now. I have to get up in 1hr 20min. Only rsn im up is cuz i had to pull a late sesh to do an assignment. Should i sleep or should i just stay up...class at 8am. If i sleep there is a 60% chance ill pass out n miss NX reveal n my class lol.

Sleep. Even a short nap will make you feel much more rested and alert.

You're gonna need that to fully bask in the glory of the NX.
 
The handheld part isn't. Neither is the mid tier developer and AAA devopment is seeing the least amount of releases ever with hardly anyone doing anything creative or taking any risks. Indies are somewhat picking up the slack but they're not a replacement for the mid tier developer.

I'm hoping NX is the place for mainly AA titles like 3DS. With a few AAA sprinkled here and there. I wanna see a breadth of unique content and not another PS4 with Nintendo games as I already own a PS4 and PC.
 
Laura from LPVG said they're not using the Wii branding.

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I predict it all being just one story:
- A guy turns on the console on his TV and it runs the new Mario, plays it a bit with the fancy new controller.
- Then he get's a message or something and decides to meet his friend.
- Picks up the controller/console from the tv attachment and the game continues seamlessly as he walks out and is on the bus.
- Then he joins his friend who also has one, and they start playing together, the other guy plays as Luigi.
- Cut to name of console, and date for when we'll hear more about it.
 
A $50 dollar price fluctuation doesn't make the system anymore attractive if the value isn't there. If the hardware doesn't offer anything attractive to the a wide mass of consumers, there isn't much that can be done outside of liquidating the product through bargain bins.

Disagree (to the central point at least).

There are plenty of people who are interested, but not committed. There's a reason places list prices like "199.99 instead of 200.00". The perception of something being much more affordable is relevant.

You will sell to a lot of people who are simply like "why not?" at lower entry prices than you will at higher prices. Obviously, you need to establish SOME value.
 
I'm really not sure a three minute video is brief enough to tease nor is it long enough to inform.

Nintendo are obviously hoping for a buzz before revealing more later on but if today‘s offering falls flat for whatever reason they'll lose any potential for hype.

It's a dangerous approach but it tells me they are super confident about whatever NX is.

Im in a weird position right now. I have to get up in 1hr 20min. Only rsn im up is cuz i had to pull a late sesh to do an assignment. Should i sleep or should i just stay up...class at 8am. If i sleep there is a 60% chance ill pass out n miss NX reveal n my class lol.
I'd have a nap if I was you. You're so tired you're misspelling your words.
 
299 is my bet. They really want to be lower than the competition and the Wii U.

But the competition is already at $299, aren't they? Sometimes for bundles, even.



I predict it all being just one story:
- A guy turns on the console on his TV and it runs the new Mario, plays it a bit with the fancy new controller.
- Then he get's a message or something and decides to meet his friend.
- Picks up the controller/console from the tv attachment and the game continues seamlessly as he walks out and is on the bus.
- Then he joins his friend who also has one, and they start playing together, the other guy plays as Luigi.
- Cut to name of console, and date for when we'll hear more about it.

All to The Clash's "Should I Stay Or Should I Go"
 
If the final unit has active cooling that may not be the exact case. Thraktor posted about it way back in this thread, that active cooling with their custom Pascal chip throws a wrench in what we thought we knew. Meaning, it opens up the possibility of >XB1 power, and at FP16 (which UE4 for instance uses heavily) >PS4 performance.

Not that the above is likely, as it would likely be more expensive than Nintendo wants.

At this point all we can safely say is that the GPU is much more powerful than that of the Wii U and the CPU is likely going to surpass those of the PS4/XB1.
There are no circumstances in which a tegra device will offer anything approaching Xb1 performance. None.
 
I predict it all being just one story:
- A guy turns on the console on his TV and it runs the new Mario, plays it a bit with the fancy new controller.
- Then he get's a message or something and decides to meet his friend.
- Picks up the controller/console from the tv attachment and the game continues seamlessly as he walks out and is on the bus.
- Then he joins his friend who also has one, and they start playing together, the other guy plays as Luigi.
- Cut to name of console, and date for when we'll hear more about it.

That would actually be pretty good. Impossible to be confused unlike Wii U reveal.
 
I predict it all being just one story:
- A guy turns on the console on his TV and it runs the new Mario, plays it a bit with the fancy new controller.
- Then he get's a message or something and decides to meet his friend.
- Picks up the controller/console from the tv attachment and the game continues seamlessly as he walks out and is on the bus.
- Then he joins his friend who also has one, and they start playing together, the other guy plays as Luigi.
- Cut to name of console, and date for when we'll hear more about it.

I would be down with this. Clear and simple message.
 
Hype as hell for this - pity I will be in work when this and RDR2 trailer drops. God dammit!

Hoping for no more than £249 entry price - if a price gets revealed.
 
Übermatik;220846801 said:
"Home gaming system" seems like awfully specific wording... Has me thinking.

By taking this route, if this is indeed to give it more value as a home console that you can take everywhere (rather than a portable with a tv out), they also take a risk i think.

A portable console that plays home console games like BotW (hopefully more) is impressive. Now, a 300$ home console that is less powerful than a PS4, people will compare to other consoles if it's branded as a home console and it won't be an advantage. (I'm talking about people who don't like portable gaming obviously, and won't see the portable thing as an advantage to them)
 
Why are we assuming we're getting price at all from this trailer?

This is not the full reveal. It's a sneak peek. I doubt we get to see more of the hardware than just close up dutch angles of some weird plastic sidepanel thats impossible to discern.
 
We know it's Pascal, and we know it's WiiU <<< NX < X1.

Where real world performance falls will be curious to see. It's got newer technology than either of the twins.

Pascal based tegra, better cpu than Xbone / PS4 (I know that doesnt take a lot, but still), 3, 4 times Wii U flops.

We don't know any of these things.

The legitimate sources I'm speaking about are Eurogamer, Emily Rogers and maybe a few others that have been attached to that circle of information. The people who have made Pascal claims or claims about a better CPU are outside of that circle AFAIK.

I believe any FLOP calculations done were speculative, and came from people looking at the performance of an untouched Tegra X1.
 
There are no circumstances in which a tegra device will offer anything approaching Xb1 performance. None.

Thraktor typically knows what he's talking about in this area:

Well, crunching my numbers, assuming ~10-15W TDP for the full SoC (on the upper end of what would be feasible given battery life, but Emily Rogers did say battery life was poor), you'd be looking at:

If it's 2 Pascal SMs, clock speed around 1.5GHz and around 750 Gflops FP32 / 1500 Gflops FP16

If it's 3 Pascal SMs, clock speed around 1.3GHz and around 1 Tflop FP32 / 2 Tflop FP16

If it's 4 Pascal SMs, clock speed around 1.2GHz and around 1.2 Tflop FP32 / 2.4 Tflop FP16

Plus a pretty beastly CPU.

Even the first would stomp on any smartphone GPU and in theory be capable of close to PS4 visuals at 720p. That has me suspicious, though, as all the reliable sources have been saying it doesn't compete in power with PS4/XBO, and the above aren't that far off. Potentially I'm massively overestimating the TDP they're hitting, or perhaps there is a docked mode where the clock speeds increase and the fan turns on, and whichever dev has been leaking details simply hasn't been made aware of it yet, with their hardware running at portable clocks.

Honestly I don't know what to think anymore. I'm going to go curl up in a ball in the corner of the room and rock gently back and forth for a while.

Now, again, I want to stress that the above is highly unlikely for reasons of battery life and cost but claiming that it's impossible for Tegra just seems pretty silly.
 
The price will be the most important thing to factor here, let's hope they don't fuck up on that front. PS4/Xbone are already dirty cheap and it doesn't help that they receive bundles pretty much every month.
 
I predict it all being just one story:
- A guy turns on the console on his TV and it runs the new Mario, plays it a bit with the fancy new controller.
- Then he get's a message or something and decides to meet his friend.
- Picks up the controller/console from the tv attachment and the game continues seamlessly as he walks out and is on the bus.
- Then he joins his friend who also has one, and they start playing together, the other guy plays as Luigi.
- Cut to name of console, and date for when we'll hear more about it.

I can see this happening
 
The handheld part isn't. Neither is the mid tier developer and AAA devopment is seeing the least amount of releases ever with hardly anyone doing anything creative or taking any risks. Indies are somewhat picking up the slack but they're not a replacement for the mid tier developer.

Mid Teir development seems to be dead and buried,you have some decent Kickstarter games, but if it's from one of the established pubs they go over like a lead balloon.
 
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