Phawx
Member
Not scripted at all, you were just very lucky ahahah
Haha! I thought that was a little too smooth.
IndieGogo - Windows 10 GPD Handheld -299$ "A Laptop Fitting in Your Pocket"
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Haha! I thought that was a little too smooth.
GhostTrick
Banned
I wonder Phawx, have you tried running other GC games you had issues with like Twilight Princess ? I'd be curious about Paper Mario too.
Phawx
Member
I haven't tested those two just yet. Though I did speak with a Dolphin dev who said doing that configuration trick will most likely break games. Seems like if you can run the PAL version of games well, that's your best bet.
I know Ishiiruka build has a modified efb skip but I don't remember it working well on Sunshine.
KatamariOnTheRocks
Member
Just wanna say thanks for all the awesome info/videos Phawx, I'm hoping to pick one up on Ebay once all the pre-orders have caught up and being able to see what games will and will not work well makes the wait a bit easier 
Eh, what exactly you did?
Bboy AJ
My dog was murdered by a 3.5mm audio port and I will not rest until the standard is dead
Even reaching out to GeekBuy to cancel has been a pain.
No traditional Dpad is a no sale for me, EDIT: looks like you can swap parts but so far they haven't been able to fit the hardware in the case and have no final working prototype. Concept is cool but the thing with shipping is like $750 AU which is a insane amount of money to throw at a *chance*.
Hard to say because who knows when it will come out, or if it ever comes out at all. They haven't even been able to fit the hardware inside the case. And the hardware they seemingly chose will undoubtly get very hot in such a small case. It's also made by a team that never released any handheld before.
twentytwo22
Member
I don't consider it portable, and the company behind it has never produced anything before. If it ever really actually comes out I'll give it a look then.
Cow Mengde
Banned
You should let the developers know about this.
Phawx
Member
I did. When you do this it will override the efb setting which will make sunshine run faster however the graffiti will break.
Basically any game that requires efb will have something broken by doing this.
The dev told me it's been a UI thing to fix for a long time now, yet no one has done it.
Bboy AJ
My dog was murdered by a 3.5mm audio port and I will not rest until the standard is dead
Pipe dream. Don't back it. GPD is a proven company.
Gah, so the tradeoff for the performance is that it makes certain games unplayable, potentially?
Phawx
Member
For Sunshine, the graffiti goop won't hurt your or make you slide. Effectively it would be like cheating, but the game would run faster. In that instance, I'd take the speed up.
Phawx
Member
Nope
If you happen upon any other titles that would benefit, could you let us know? Also, did you ever get Fzero GX running on the GPD WIN as good as GPDWIN GAMER got on his Beelink?
Phawx
Member
Nope
Doesn't make sense to me as I can produce better scores than the Beelink.
I should be getting my 8700 in this week so I'll do some tests there as well.
Yea I'll let you know.
Nope
Doesn't make sense to me as I can produce better scores than the Beelink.
I should be getting my 8700 in this week so I'll do some tests there as well.
Weird, I wonder what the issue is? You've pretty much pushed to the machine to the max. Only thing I could think of is heating/cooling, but I guess we'll have to wait for your heatsink mod to see.
GhostTrick
Banned
The problem with Smach Z is that I don't believe it's a machine that will exist in it's current form.
GPD Win is using a weaker chip, with 14nm process node, with a lower TDP 4.5W. It's 200 to 300Gflops GPU. And yet with a 6700mah battery, you get like 3 hours of gameplay under heavy gaming. And despite that it needs a fan to not overheat.
Smach Z on the other hand claims that they'll use a 12 to 15W TDP chip, with a 28nm process node, using a far bigger and powerful chip, rated at 819Gflops, fanless, and aim for 5 hours of battery.
All if that in a slim form factor. It's not happening. Even at 14nm it wasn't happening. Their best chance would be to come back when AMD has 10 to 7nm chipsets, aiming for 5 to 6W and maybe they'll have a shot.
Smach Z hardware will never make it in this case, at these clockspeeds, and even with a fan.
GeekBuying I assume? Least your getting tracking number, the bare minimum seems to be absent for GPD with Indiegogo.
Hey Phawx, can you try some isometric RPG like Shadowrun or Pillars of Eternity?
That is, if they actually manage to build something.
They are planning to use an AMD chip. The largest issue for a device with this use case for me is already CPU performance, and that won't improve matters.
That is, if they actually manage to build something.
I just got the same email, also from "Debbie," lol.
Fascinating. Thanks for the explanation.
f@luS
More than a member.
Just contacted PayPal they give geekbuying 10 days to send a proof of delivery or at least correct shipping or I I have my money back. I showed them the shady "testing and packaging mail" which provided PayPal guy a laugh as well
If I play the waiting game I simply wait for my IGG gpd
If I play the waiting game I simply wait for my IGG gpd
Phawx
Member
Sure. I'll load it up now.
Also just a side note, Kendy emailed me at 4AM saying they are shipping my unit now but to confirm my address :/
So I guess they'll ship it today or tomorrow at this point.
Phawx
Member
Considering I just got an email Monday, and It won't be shipped until Tuesday, I'd believe it if geekbuying got an advance shipment. You may get your GB order before I get my IGG order.
Well, the GPU would be better... That means that it would be better for 3D games, or the CPU would be too much of a bottleneck?
Very frustrating since early backers on IGG are getting the shaft. Plus I'm like 1667 on there so I'll be lucky to see mine soon.
GhostTrick
Banned
Technically, even the CPU would be better. But there's no way this will exist in the case they're planning. Especially not fanless. Either clockspeeds will be drastically reduced or the specs will be changed.
Dr. Benton Quest
Banned
Where did you order from and when?I just received a shipping notification! And yes, I opted for a more expensive shipping option. I won't order anything without a tracking number, of which I only got a placeholder.
Geekbuying about two weeks ago.
Dr. Benton Quest
Banned
From Phawx' tests so far it looks like many of the types of games I'd like to play on a device like this are more likely to run into CPU limits. Of course, it always depends on your use case. And, well, there is the entire feasibility question which GhostTrick brought up to consider.
Personally, I think the best currently available chip for a device with this form factor would be something like the i7-7Y75, but obviously the pricing on that is ridiculous.
Dr. Benton Quest
Banned
Pre-orders were discounted. Not sure if geekbuying still has it at $330 or not.
Edit: They do.
GhostTrick
Banned
Dragonbox is overpriced as hell. Geekbuying or Gearbest has it for 330 dollars. Belchine has it for 370 euros.
GhostTrick
Banned
Phawx
Member
It's hilarious because I was just looking for a dual core low power chip with faster freq in CPU/GPU and I looked at this. This chip would be stellar in a slightly larger GPD Win (It is the exact same size as a 3DS XL) that had a proper heatsink designed from the getgo. It is literally 10x more expensive from GPDs perspective, so it would end up being near $700-$1,000 which would further reduce the amount of people who would buy something like this. Best bet in the future is if AMD makes a dual-core zen APU and makes it available cheap enough. But who knows if GPD makes a Win2? The APU would have to be in the $50 range for GPD to even look at it.
I don't know, the GPD Win might be the last train on Handheld x86 for awhile, now that Intel selling Atom for cheaper is out. Comparing the Atom Z8750 to the Pentium N3710 (GPU is 100Mhz faster and it has Quick Sync, possibly more ext) and Intel wants 4x as much for that tiny bump. The days of Intel selling cheap stuff to compete with ARM is over. AMD is our only hope.
I haven't yet. Still waiting for a better price.
If you looked at GPD XD, launch prices were significantly cheaper, they are now $50-60 more expensive. If you look at the BeeLink launch prices, they are near $100 more expensive. Basically if you were thinking of buying a GPDwin, now is the best time with any coupon code you can find, based on history of this stuff.