Trump settles Trump University fraud cases - $25 million settlement

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Glass Joe said:
Whelp, instead he pays $25 million to make the situation go away, while also not having to say he's guilty regarding anything. The dude is a billionaire, he was smart to make it go away.
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Sure it's the most logical move from his perspective.

But he's a president elect and he's paying money or outlawyering people to weasel out of his crimes. And I don't count on any justice happening with a GOP controlled congress.
 
Opto said:
Sure it's the most logical move from his perspective.

But he's a president elect and he's paying money or outlawyering people to weasel out of his crimes. And I don't count on any justice happening with a GOP controlled congress.
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I'm pretty sure he said he could have settled this matter a long time ago, but simply refused due to him feeling that he was right. Now that's he's actually become the president-elect, he realizes there's higher priorities.

Do you really want him to fight the matter while he's transitioning to become president? Or would you be all "OMG a billionaire is fighting over $25 million when there's so much more at stake here!"
 
Glass Joe said:
Since a settlement was agreed upon, I guess no one affected cares?
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Oh, they cared, but it was always gonna be one hell of a uphill battle, so the scumbag who ran the scam gets to pay small amount of money and make it all go away so he doesn't actually have to get up there and testify in court. That's the tragedy of it all, we don't get the satisfaction of him squirming in a court room, trying to bullshit his way out of another situation.
 
Glass Joe said:
Do you really want him to fight the matter while he's transitioning to become president? Or would you be all "OMG a billionaire is fighting over $25 million when there's so much more at stake here!"
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Considering he's planning a victory tour of the states he won just to fuel his ego, I'm sure he can make some time for this.
 
Pellegri Testament said:
Considering he's planning a victory tour of the states he won just to fuel his ego, I'm sure he can make some time for this.
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So as a billionaire USA president and leader, that's what you want him to do? Keep fighting over something a $25 million settlement took care of? He should make the free time for this, yes? Or, would you maybe be complaining either way, what he does?
 
Glass Joe said:
So as a billionaire USA president and leader, that's what you want him to do? Keep fighting over something a $25 million settlement took care of? He should make the free time for this, yes? Or, would you maybe be complaining either way, what he does?
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Maybe I'd like to see this piece of shit be held accountable for something in his life, not just shrug it off by throwing money at it or saying he doesn't have time, when he so clearly does. Showing that he's more than just a fraud is more important to the country than getting high off his ego and being praised 24/7.

But please tell us how you really feel here, because I can sense there's more here from you.
 
This won't hurt him, and I can't really use it against him because this is something mj did and I think he was innocent. Not saying trump is innocent mind you, but I think this helps him more than anything else
 
Pellegri Testament said:
Maybe I'd like to see this piece of shit be held accountable for something in his life, not just shrug it off by throwing money at it or saying he doesn't have time, when he so clearly does.

But please tell us how you really feel here, because I can sense there's more here from you.
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I told you how I feel about this. *If* he was still fighting over some Trump University stuff that could be taken care of for $25 million, no matter how right he feels he is, I'd say his ego is out of control when he's the president-elect and needs to focus on purely that.
 
Air said:
This won't hurt him, and I can't really use it against him because this is something mj did and I think he was innocent. Not saying trump is innocent mind you, but I think this helps him more than anything else
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Michael Jackson was a conartist?
 
Glass Joe said:
I told you how I feel about this. *If* he was still fighting over some Trump University stuff that could be taken care of for $25 million, no matter how right he feels he is, I'd say his ego is out of control when he's the president-elect and needs to focus on purely that.
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The fact that he settled a fraud case doesn't give you pause? Do we just add it to the pile with his two racial discrimination settlements and give him credit for reigning in his ego?

Pretty interesting through line on the three settlements. Two for racist practices and one where Trump claims that the judge can't do his job because of his race.

What a great guy. We should definitely give him propers for buying his way out of these pickles.
 
Trumps attorneys had an appeal waiting to be filed should the prosecution not agree to settle. That would push to next year and probably 2020. No way this EVER going to trial during his term.
 
Glass Joe said:
I'm pretty sure he said he could have settled this matter a long time ago, but simply refused due to him feeling that he was right. Now that's he's actually become the president-elect, he realizes there's higher priorities.

Do you really want him to fight the matter while he's transitioning to become president? Or would you be all "OMG a billionaire is fighting over $25 million when there's so much more at stake here!"
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What an absolute garbage straw man argument. The real answer is have a president who isn't a con artist and fraudster. Being unfit to govern is an actual thing.
 
gutterboy44 said:
What an absolute garbage straw man argument. The real answer is have a president who isn't a con artist and fraudster. Being unfit to govern is an actual thing.
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Calling my opinion "absolute garbage" without actually explaining why... Well, that just simply isn't civil discourse. You can disregard my opinion with no respect, I don't mind. But when I say he'd be "damned if he does, damned if he doesn't," in this situation, that's how I feel regarding the matter and I've clearly stated why.
 
Glass Joe said:
Calling my opinion "absolute garbage" without actually explaining why... Well, that just simply isn't civil discourse. You can disregard my opinion with no respect, I don't mind. But when I say he'd be "damned if he does, damned if he doesn't," in this situation, I that's how I feel regarding the matter.
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The fact that someone finds themselves cornered does not exonerate them for their previous actions. You see that right?

If he didn't want to get into this dastardly no-win situation, he probably shouldn't have committed fraud.
 
Air said:
This won't hurt him, and I can't really use it against him because this is something mj did and I think he was innocent. Not saying trump is innocent mind you, but I think this helps him more than anything else
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MJ lived on a secluded ranch with a monkey. That's not exactly the gold standard.
 
BlastProcessing said:
The fact that someone finds themselves cornered does not exonerate them for their previous actions. You see that right?

If he didn't want to get into this dastardly no-win situation, he probably shouldn't have committed fraud.
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I thought with this settlement, he admits no guilt? So why are you saying he committed fraud (in italics), when legally that doesn't seem to be the case?
 
Glass Joe said:
I thought with this settlement, he admits no guilt? So why are you saying he committed fraud (in italics), when legally that doesn't seem to be the case?
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Admission of guilt is a technical term here, especially in a civil case. It's pretty standard in these settlements. I don't think there can be any argument that Trump U was a predatory entity. The evidence was overwhelming. So again, Trump could have avoided this whole Kobayashi Maru by not spinning up a shady for profit University.

You are trying to pitch this as a situation where someone's hands are tied, but that's simply not the case. Remember that this is a trial where Trump said that the judge couldn't do his job because of who his parents were. You are going to need to work far harder to paint Trump as a victim in this.
 
Has anyone compared the settlement amount to what was demanded in the original complaints? Comparing those numbers might give you a better idea of how much Trump's lawyers thought of his chances to win.
 
Trump spoke about this on Twitter...

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[tweet]https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/799969130237542400[/tweet]

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[tweet]https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/799970371705380864[/tweet]
 
It's not a "winning trial" if you settled.

Trump... Literally changing the definitions of ALL of our words, one tweet at a time.
 
RaidenZR said:
It's not a "winning trial" if you settled.

Trump... Literally changing the definitions of ALL of our words, one tweet at a time.
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His excuse for settling is being president, he's so busy and got no time for a "winning trial".

EDIT: beaten, oh well
 
John Dunbar said:
he's saying it would have been a winning trial if he had bothered to go through with it.
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Its amazing he can say shit like this, when by all accounts his team used nothing but bullshit heaped on obvious bullshit the whole way through.


And we elected this man...

god damn.
 
Pickman said:
"I'm not guilty, I did nothing wrong, I'm completely exonerated by these actions today. I only paid them a very very small portion of my fortunes in order to dedicate myself to preparing to run this nation with 100% of my focus. No distractions. That's a sacrifice I'm willing to make for this country, and it's just the first of many."

Or something along those lines.
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Cyan said:
Add a bigly, change most of the multisyllabic words, cut to 140 characters, and we've got a winner.
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Can't make this shit up.
 
So his message as president is that you should reward liars with millions of dollars instead of standing up for yourself and what is right? Sad!
 
Good to see the president elect getting his legal affairs in order.

I wonder if that's how you get into PR, you turn sarcasm into press releases and tweets.
 
DontBeThatGuy said:
Oh, they cared, but it was always gonna be one hell of a uphill battle, so the scumbag who ran the scam gets to pay small amount of money and make it all go away so he doesn't actually have to get up there and testify in court. That's the tragedy of it all, we don't get the satisfaction of him squirming in a court room, trying to bullshit his way out of another situation.
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Nah I think the tragedy is that he got a shit ton of money and only has to give a little back and is legally protected from any further recourse. Oh and that he is President.
 
That's the right play, honestly. Anyone paying attention already realizes how fradulent Trump University was, and anyone buying into the Trump mythos wholesale is not about to have their mind changed by him settling. I think literally no one's opinion is going to be changed by this and he gets to put it behind him.
 
Three pages on this, 17 about Hamilton. We're fucked, tbh. Like he's just been fined by New York for his actions wrt this case, howdy actual evidence of illegal activity by or at least on behalf of Mr President Elect; has been entertaining foreign diplomats and telling them that they can get on his good side by staying at his hotels, hi pay to play; but nah, let's all focus on the Hamilton story.
 
jim-jam bongs said:
Three pages on this, 17 about Hamilton. We're fucked, tbh. Like he's just been fined by New York for his actions wrt this case, howdy actual evidence of illegal activity by or at least on behalf of Mr President Elect; has been entertaining foreign diplomats and telling them that they can get on his good side by staying at his hotels, hi pay to play; but nah, let's all focus on the Hamilton story.
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exactly this, plus the hamilton sideshow distracts from of his fucking nutball cabinet picks.

and if it's like that on here, it's going to be even worse on the rest of the internet/the media.
 
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