This is why I went with the VA on the smaller 43" panel. We also have plasma, and I think the only way I'm going to be happy with black levels on a new TV is if I go OLED... but that will have to be at some point later in the future.
Sony X800D well - reviewed, 4k+HDR TV with low input lag
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Sort of my thoughts too... that this should hold me over until OLED is more affordable, I got in at a good price. VA sounds like it would be better than the IPS, but not sure I could handle dropping from 51" to 43" inches.
Lockjaw333
Member
The 43" is $598 on Amazon right now. $100 below retail. I'm super tempted but I want to hold out for next year and improvements to HDR.
It is completely fine. Not noticeable at all.
Maybe in fighting games you'd see some sort of difference but in general use, nope.
Overall 8/10.
I think the 43 is great for a budget monitor. Image quality will not match the OLED at 4x the price, HDR is not as bright as the KS8000 at 1.7+x the price, but it handles motion, scaling, wide color gamut and lag as well as or better than the competition.
HIGH DEF JEFF
Banned
From the other 4k thread:
I took this as a sign to wait...
Went to PC Richard yesterday so I could stare at the Sony X930 and X850 and see if theres any difference to my old tired eyes. Maybe save a few hundred bucks if things like "local dimming" are something I even notice.
Both TVs are connected up with component cables and some splitter box where this demo fruit video is stored. Walked right out of the store.
I took this as a sign to wait...
Went to PC Richard yesterday so I could stare at the Sony X930 and X850 and see if theres any difference to my old tired eyes. Maybe save a few hundred bucks if things like "local dimming" are something I even notice.
Both TVs are connected up with component cables and some splitter box where this demo fruit video is stored. Walked right out of the store.
Thanks. I saved $120 by price matching on Amazon for the 49" so I think I got a good deal on it.
Time to set this bad boy up
local dimming is bad ass, but this set X800D doesn't have it. If you want a difference for tired eyes, go look at OLED, just have your checkbook handy.
$120 not bad.
CrimsonEclipse
Member
Really cheap on Amazon right now at 648 for the 49" but I'm seeing that the VA panel on the 43 inch is better...ugh! if this was VA I would of got this tomorrow at a local BB.
Anyone who has this TV, how is the uniformity of the screen/blacks? If there is one thing that annoys is bad screen uniformity. Doesn't have to be perfect but don't want it horrible neither.
Also, TV's in general with HDR....are there only certain ports that have HDR capabilities or do all HDMI inputs support HDR? I have been confused about that.
Anyone who has this TV, how is the uniformity of the screen/blacks? If there is one thing that annoys is bad screen uniformity. Doesn't have to be perfect but don't want it horrible neither.
Also, TV's in general with HDR....are there only certain ports that have HDR capabilities or do all HDMI inputs support HDR? I have been confused about that.
HIGH DEF JEFF
Banned
I like the XBR 930D at 2,200 bucks and am leaning that way but have definitely considered that LG OLED everyone has a hard on for.
Monad
Member
Bought the 43" model in the mexican black friday equivalent today and couldn't be more satisfied.
The color degradation is unperceptible with my use (I barely move my head around), and the black levels (as well as the contrast ones and color representation overall) are astonishing for the price.
Seriously, this thing at 4:4:4 as PC monitor is outstanding, and playing stuff like Forza Horizon 3 or Gears of War 4 in native 4K is breathtaking. Coming from a 2009's LG 23" 1080p TV/monitor, is like playing a completely different games, the diference in terms of size and level of detail is like the day and night...
Now is time to replace my GTX 970 or buying a PS4 Pro. D:
The color degradation is unperceptible with my use (I barely move my head around), and the black levels (as well as the contrast ones and color representation overall) are astonishing for the price.
Seriously, this thing at 4:4:4 as PC monitor is outstanding, and playing stuff like Forza Horizon 3 or Gears of War 4 in native 4K is breathtaking. Coming from a 2009's LG 23" 1080p TV/monitor, is like playing a completely different games, the diference in terms of size and level of detail is like the day and night...
Now is time to replace my GTX 970 or buying a PS4 Pro. D:
Thanks for impressions. I also plan to get the 43" version to use it as a PC monitor. I'm currently on 32" 1080p, and I'm fairly satisfied with it but the lack of desktop real estate area is stareting to bug me.
TDawgTommy
Neo Member
I'm glad this topic popped up on the first page...I was just looking at this TV in Best Buy earlier today. Need to upgrade and this looks like a good bet for now. Will decide after reading the impressions here.
Monad
Member
I also have a Sony 32" 1080p (W650B), but never intended as a monitor (I only conected it to my PC the last week, to see overall image quality and input lag compared with my previous LG monitor) and the diference with its newer sister is enormous.
Of course, it was a cheap TV (even when I bought it), although the panel is fairly good (for the price too), but besides that, it doesn't match with the X800D.
Now I'm hungry of 4K content...
Lockjaw333
Member
I have a g25 plasma, basically same model but 50", and it's been really difficult to view any LCD panels since. The black levels and poor motion handling just stick out to me. That's why I'm hesitant to jump on a 4k HDR set until HDR is more sell defined, and preferably there are affordable OLED sets.
Still the 43" of this TV is tempting as a monitor/ gaming TV. I'm using 24" 1080p Dell IPS right now that is great, but this TV would probably be an improvement.
Wind's Howling
Member
Guys. Another question. Thinking of picking this TV up tomorrow but they only have the 43xd8099 with 400hz in stores. Is it the same in terms of input lag and HDR10?
European model btw.
European model btw.
michaelius
Banned
It should be identical inside since there's dozens of models for europe with various tuners and other minor changes. But the only way to be 100% would be to find local review
55" Model for 777€ at Saturn Herford starting this wednesday. Shipped orders + 39€ = 816€ everyhwere.
https://www.mydealz.de/deals/lokal-...ur-777-eur-oder-bundesweit-fur-816-eur-874248
Ashler
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55" Model for 777 at Saturn Herford starting this wednesday. Shipped orders + 39 = 816 everyhwere.
https://www.mydealz.de/deals/lokal-...ur-777-eur-oder-bundesweit-fur-816-eur-874248
Nice,
I'll certainly look out for this starting Wednesday.
CollectedDust
Member
Is it true that the sony 700D now supports HRD10 with low input lag? Looking for a 55" for my PS4 PRO and this seems like a good fit.
CollectedDust
Member
So I pulled the trigger on the on the Sony 55" 700D. Just did the system update that enables HDR and am setting it up based on rtings instructions. Will report back my findings using PS4 Pro and 4k UHD via Xbox One S.
Note: Since I already had a PS4 Pro, I was able to do a return/rebuy to get the TV for just $600! Seems like steal for a 55" 4k HDR TV with ~32ms lag with 4K and HDR turned on.
Note: Since I already had a PS4 Pro, I was able to do a return/rebuy to get the TV for just $600! Seems like steal for a 55" 4k HDR TV with ~32ms lag with 4K and HDR turned on.
CollectedDust
Member
Update: I can confirm that the Sony XBR55X700D works in 4k HDR with both the xbox one S and PS4 Pro after the latest system updates (although you have to use HDMI 2 and 3).
The first thing I tried was uncharted 4, and I have to say, HDR makes a significant difference. I played around with turning it on and off, and all I can say is "wow".
Under the xbox one S advanced settings, the Tv showed up with check marks across the board for 4k 60hz 10-bit etc. I threw in my mad max UHD disk and even my wife was able to immediately see the difference with HDR (we previously viewed it on a 55" non-HDR 4k TV).
As someone that typically games on an 110" projector screen (1080P non-HDR), I'm going to take it game by game on where I play. I still have a standard X1 and PS4 hooked up to the projector. For games that don't have a big difference, I'm going to opt for the bigger screen and 7.2 speaker setup. For games with HDR and good pro support, I'll be using the 55" tv and sound bar combo. Not a bad setup to tie me over until true 4k HDR projectors are available for under 10k.
Edit: Also, I may have won the panel lottery, no bright spots, blotchyness, or pixel issues to report. After calibrating, I'm quite pleased with the picture. And this comes from an owner of the amazing Sony XBR-55X900A .
The first thing I tried was uncharted 4, and I have to say, HDR makes a significant difference. I played around with turning it on and off, and all I can say is "wow".
Under the xbox one S advanced settings, the Tv showed up with check marks across the board for 4k 60hz 10-bit etc. I threw in my mad max UHD disk and even my wife was able to immediately see the difference with HDR (we previously viewed it on a 55" non-HDR 4k TV).
As someone that typically games on an 110" projector screen (1080P non-HDR), I'm going to take it game by game on where I play. I still have a standard X1 and PS4 hooked up to the projector. For games that don't have a big difference, I'm going to opt for the bigger screen and 7.2 speaker setup. For games with HDR and good pro support, I'll be using the 55" tv and sound bar combo. Not a bad setup to tie me over until true 4k HDR projectors are available for under 10k.
Edit: Also, I may have won the panel lottery, no bright spots, blotchyness, or pixel issues to report. After calibrating, I'm quite pleased with the picture. And this comes from an owner of the amazing Sony XBR-55X900A .
43" XD80 arrived today from Amazon black friday deal.
Over the moon to say the least, made me realise even before testing on the Pro just how poor my previous TV was.
Pumped in the settings member III-V supplied (thankyou kind Sir) with acouple of my own tweaks and tested IW, BF One, Infamous First Light and TLoU, all look stunning IMO.
Over the moon to say the least, made me realise even before testing on the Pro just how poor my previous TV was.
Pumped in the settings member III-V supplied (thankyou kind Sir) with acouple of my own tweaks and tested IW, BF One, Infamous First Light and TLoU, all look stunning IMO.
Don't have one but when I was looking at the display model in store it had the same issue you are talking about.
Unknown?
Member
Yes! I had an older 2015 Sony 1080p tv and this new one looks sooooo much better in 1080p without any enhancement.
potatohead
Member
Probably not. I have the 43.
Unless you're talking about the indicator light, but I don't think you are.
Haint
Member
PSA: Costco has the 40" 4K Samsung 6290 for $289. Unsure what exactly it is, but is probably a rebadged 6300/630 (to avoid price matches), which reviewed very close to this Sony 800d. Depending on what features you're after, the price differential is obviously enormous. I'm sure its not expanded color gamut, but might be 10bit and seems to have some level of fauxHDR.
OLED can't be beat for dark room watching due to infinite contrast ratio! But response time isn't so great... always trade-offs.
I use as PC monitor as well.
Same here. Still have the standard PS4 hooked up to 100" projector w/AVR and atmos set-up.
right on
CGwizz
Member
Is the samsund 6300 better than this tv, mother of god, so hard to choose a tv...
the rratings say the 6300 is better in HDR gaming, but is not better The HDR10 of the sony ?
No. Only the input lag is slightly better. Otherwise this is the superior HDR television.
Yes. It is the UK equivalent of the 49".
CollectedDust
Member
They are probably fairly similar. I lean towards Sony TVs as I've had lots of good luck with them in the past (I own 2 sony 4k tvs, 2 sony 1080p tvs, and a Sony projector... so I am biased). I also couldn't beat the price with the bundle with a pro (available at best buy and amazon).
CGwizz
Member
I am wating for black friday deals here, if i dont get a good deal on the sony tvs i have to buy the samsung 6300 cause it is 300 euros cheaper here and i cant spend 1000 euros on a tv ...
ToastyBanana
Member
Just got the UK 43XD80 version today. Set it all up with a PS4 Pro and games look great. Just streaming The Grand Tour now with the inbuilt Amazon app and 4k seems to work but there's no HDR. I thought Amazon stuff had it?
I did notice some minor cloudy DSE in the middle of the screen when moving around in The Last of Us. Will have to play around more to see if it warrants a return but TV stuff seems fine so far.
I did notice some minor cloudy DSE in the middle of the screen when moving around in The Last of Us. Will have to play around more to see if it warrants a return but TV stuff seems fine so far.
Best buy also has the 6290 for $289. It's a 6300 with a basic remote and no Bluetooth. For half the price of the x800d is say it's a no brainer. Missing the wide color gamut but still has hdr support and low input lag.
Pyroclastic
Banned
Got my 43XD8077 today, how can I change it to 4k hdr, if I can at all?
I'm a complete newb with this stuff.
even if I can't the step up is pretty awesome from my 2010 samsung that had no hd tv channels on it
I'm a complete newb with this stuff.
even if I can't the step up is pretty awesome from my 2010 samsung that had no hd tv channels on it
mullet2000
Member
I'm thinking about upgrading to the 43 inch version of this from my 2011 32 inch 1080p TV.
Question: do you have to change your settings back and forth to get a good/accurate picture when switching back and forth between hdr and non hdr content?
Also I'm sure this has been answered, but what's the best setting guide for game mode specifically? I'd be using it essentially exclusively.
Question: do you have to change your settings back and forth to get a good/accurate picture when switching back and forth between hdr and non hdr content?
Also I'm sure this has been answered, but what's the best setting guide for game mode specifically? I'd be using it essentially exclusively.
potatohead
Member
Plug into HDMI 2 or 3.
Press Home to go to the Android home screen. Go to the Options all the way at the bottom and find the Inputs section for settings and set it to Enhanced HDR mode.
Pyroclastic
Banned
thank you
I was looking in the picture settings on the action menu. all sorted now.
really cool tv other than the slightly jerky interface
I was looking in the picture settings on the action menu. all sorted now.
really cool tv other than the slightly jerky interface
kylecoley182
Banned
what about the xbox one s?
Gonna reference a post I made here about The Witness - anyone else seeing this or able to reproduce? I'm actually pretty confused about what is going on here.
Xbox 1 s should output YUV 420 10 but limited afaik.
Are you going straight into the TV from the Pro with the supplied HDMI cable?
What brightness setting do you have (back light)?
What are your settings?
No way to reproduce without knowing what settings you are using.
Freshmaker
I am Korean.
I had a Panasonic plasma. I moved on to this set with no problem. Even with the evil 49" IPS panel.
But then I never view it in a dark doom so YMMV.
For what it's worth, I love this thing as a PC monitor. No RGBW garbage, and full 4:4:4 makes text ultra-sharp and clear. I've played a few games on it (Forza Horizon 3, Devil Daggers, and The Witcher 3), and it's terrific... black levels are nice (I tend to boost them a little bit for shadow detail, which is just personal preference), I don't notice any motion blur, and color vibrance and overall contrast is excellent. I don't play in complete darkness, so if there is any light bleed or whatnot, it's drowned out by the ambient light in this room.
Yeah, that'd be some shrinkage there.