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[Skitso]

If it looks better, who cares? John says it is literally more stable that native 4k, except for some outlier cases. The screenshot I posted says it all.

Yeah, people take base resolution numbers too literally. Why would it matter if the final frame is cleaner and more stable than native 4k?

 

[DeepEnigma]

Yeah, people take base resolution numbers too literally. Why would it matter if the final frame is cleaner and more stable than native 4k?

It's the bee knees when done on PeeCee tho.

 

[TheThreadsThatBindUs]

Aloy has better body and bigger tits than the skinny flat corpse that is the real actress, they just puffed her cheeks a bit to much and gave her the most retarded haircut, you change that alone ans she look good.

I don't agree that the real actress is a skinny corpse. She's hot AF (or at least she was, when in her prime):

She's aged quite a bit now. This is her from the more recent movie, Cocain Bear:

I can't deny that I must appreciate a fellow Gaffer who is able to recognise the glory of a fuller female figure. And I agree that in-game Aloy isn't ugly by any means, but her character model is marketly less attractive in the second game when compared with the original.

 

[Tiago Rodrigues]

How? It's September 25.

Then maybe those posts are premature?

 

[Bojji]

Triumphant levels of details and geometry:

If it looks better, who cares? John says it is literally more stable that native 4k, except for some outlier cases. The screenshot I posted says it all.

What is the most suprising is that they were able to connect PSSR+RTGI and results are good, without "disco grass" or anything like that.

 

[Sethbacca]

lmao...gaf eating crow as usual

Don't worry. They'll be back after they're finishing moving the goalposts.

 

[GymWolf]

I don't agree that the real actress is a skinny corpse. She's hot AF (or at least she was, when in her prime):

She's aged quite a bit now. This is her from the more recent movie, Cocain Bear:

I can't deny that I must appreciate a fellow Gaffer who is able to recognise the glory of a fuller female figure. And I agree that in-game Aloy isn't ugly by any means, but her character model is marketly less attractive in the second game when compared with the original.

she did nude scene, watch those to understand what i said.

Her face is the only part of her body with some meat attached.

 

[DeepEnigma]

she did nude scene, watch those to understand what i said.

Her face is the only part of her body with some meat attached.

Like two fried eggs hanging from a nail.

 

[SlimySnake]

Proof that RT cant salvage a game's visuals. But then again, this is RT slapped on like most games at the start of this generation. not built from the ground up like AC shadows which still looks a generation ahead even with RT-on.

I have no idea wtf john is smoking here but after his 50 minute tlou1 remake video and the 35 minute review slagging off DS2, im surprised he only lasted 25 minutes here.

 

[adamsapple]

she did nude scene, watch those to understand what i said.

Her face is the only part of her body with some meat attached.

 

[roosnam1980]

 

[Alebrije]

60 fps with RT on PRO...!!

 

[viveks86]

What is the most suprising is that they were able to connect PSSR+RTGI and results are good, without "disco grass" or anything like that.

Yep. Bodes well for the future. But didn't AC shadows solve that too? I've always said this. PSSR has no issue with RTGI. It has issues with low quality sampling. If the samples are too low, the output turns to shit. Lumen samples are generally too low unless they crank it up and destroy performance.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Meh, looks PS1 levels.

 

[vpance]

60fps RT mode is 1080p on Pro.

 

[balls of snow]

Several issues led to this being underestimated graphically:

- YouTube compression, can't believe I need to mention this, but it completely kills micro detail, especially in a game like this with plenty of tiny foliage details, the codec simply can't keep up and everything starts to blur. It's one of the reasons DF uses the often mocked 400% zoom.
- Sucker punch simply not showing off the RT mode, or even mentioning it at all. Who the hell thought it was a good idea? Although looking back at the marketing it appears the game was taking a while to optimise and they were still updating graphical features. They even have a launch patch coming to further improve performance.
- Finally, I'm sure some wanted this to fail, especially with the recent controversy.

So yes, the game is significantly better looking than GoT.

Yeah it is. Watching the df video on my oled tv and its a step up from Tsushima.

 

[roosnam1980]

Meh, looks PS1 levels.

 

[SlimySnake]

1080p PSSR to 4k is not the same as native 1080p.

The image quality here is very close to 4k.

 

[Mr Moose]

I mean, you can see it?

 

[Trilobit]

Considering how all in Sucker Punch is on the audio and music, what with the Nujabes mode, they should make a Cowboy Bebop game in the future.

Man, the framerate sucks in this game. More like Sucker's Bunch.

 

[FIREKNIGHT2029]

My PS5 Pro is going to enjoy this game a lot. I knew it would deliver

 

[roosnam1980]

Considering how all in Sucker Punch is on the audio and music, what with the Nujabes mode, they should make a Cowboy Bebop game in the future.

Man, the framerate sucks in this game. More like Sucker's Bunch.

low frame rate gif , if someone could speed it up

 

[DeepEnigma]

1080p PSSR to 4k is not the same as native 1080p.

The image quality here is very close to 4k.

It's only okay when peecee does it.

 

[GymWolf]

 

[ChiefDada]

 

[MisterXDTV]

It's only okay when peecee does it.

I'm ready for the inevitable "We had this on PC for years already...."

"But RASTER, native resolution though..."

It's a fucking moving goalpost every single time

 

[RodriGames40]

This game had the worst marketing period ever. You have freaking RTGI and you don't market it? Please... are you okay over there, Sucker Punch? This could have changed perception a lot.

 

[MisterXDTV]

This game had the worst marketing period ever. You have freaking RTGI and you don't market it? Please... are you okay over there, Sucker Punch? This could have changed perception a lot.

The real world is not NeoGaf, this will sell a lot regardless of RTGI that most people don't even know what it is

 

[Sid]

Wait, are you people seriously thinking this is a groundbreaking technical showcase?

 

[Tiago Rodrigues]

PS3 is back

 

[Mr Moose]

Wait, are you people seriously thinking this is a groundbreaking technical showcase?

 

[RodriGames40]

The real world is not NeoGaf, this will sell a lot regardless of RTGI that most people don't even know what it is

No one cares about sales, people didn't think of this game as a big shot anywhere online, even on Era. Their terrible marketing has a lot to do with it.

 

[Senua]

It's only okay when peecee does it.

1080p is the bare minimum you want to go for upscaling to 4k, and that's even true with DLSS4.

 

[DenchDeckard]

Ray tracing makes such a big difference! Looks great.

Digital foundry does more for these games than the marketing teams now.

 

[Senua]

The real world is not NeoGaf, this will sell a lot regardless of RTGI that most people don't even know what it is

Why you bringing up sales lmao. And normies may not know what RTGI is, but they see the results.

 

[mayham2199]

"That rock over from my 480p print screen full of artifacts? Looks PS3!"

I'll never forget the "looks like a PS3 game comment".

 

[John Wick]

Gaf: I'm an expert on visual fidelity. Game looks shit. PS4 visuals at best. Blah blah blah blah.
Some clowns on this forum think their biased opinions are actually taken seriously in the real world.
Just shit on games just for the sake of it.
I wonder why this game is no.1 on preorder list??? Looks like regular folk don't fall for in development footage syndrome.
I'll enjoy the game thanks to the clowns for reinforcing my purchasing decision.

 

[rm082e]

Wait, are you people seriously thinking this is a groundbreaking technical showcase?

People here have been saying for the last couple months that this is just a PS4 game upscaled. Clearly it's not. That doesn't mean it's a graphics showpiece - but it's clearly doing more than the last game was.

I'm in the camp of "I don't care about having groundbreaking graphics. Give me a good game with fun game play." Between the reviews and some podcast comments I've listened to this morning, it sounds like this game does a solid job on those fronts, I'm looking forward to it when it eventually comes to Steam.

 

[viveks86]

Good to see that the improvements show in cutscenes too. Barely any difference in closeups (probably due to fake lights), but even NPCs are lit better with the indirect RTGI bounce in this case (see left)

 

[John Wick]

Hahaha, that's true. But how can we know that when devs are not talking about this at all and constantly show awful videos?

It's called in development. Nobody shows the complete game before it's complete duh

 

[MisterXDTV]

No one cares about sales, people didn't think of this game as a big shot anywhere online, even on Era. Their terrible marketing has a lot to do with it.

Sure Sony and Sucker Punch don't care about sales....

LOL

 

[RodriGames40]

Sure Sony and Sucker Punch don't care about sales....

LOL

We do not, it's not like any of us work at Sony. All we want is to be blown away, that's the job of a competent marketing team.

 

[DeepEnigma]

I'm ready for the inevitable "We had this on PC for years already...."

"But RASTER, native resolution though..."

It's a fucking moving goalpost every single time

What really is a hoot is watching all the ones that used to bash upscaling methods when Sony was introducing it on the PS4Pro, being self-proclaimed native purists, now capitulate since it's the norm on the PC. From select DF clowns, to grown ass men in gaming sites and forums. Now, they speak out of both sides of their mouths, depending on the source of the product.

Cunts.

 

[GymWolf]

This game had the worst marketing period ever. You have freaking RTGI and you don't market it? Please... are you okay over there, Sucker Punch? This could have changed perception a lot.

Not sure if knowing that it has limited GI would have changed all the ugly ass footage they showed...

 

[MisterXDTV]

We do not, it's not like any of us work at Sony. All we want is to be blown away, that's the job a competent marketing team.

You know that MARKETING exists to actually SELL the game, right???

 

[RodriGames40]

Not sure if knowing that it has limited GI would have changed all the ugly ass footage they showed...

The footage they showed somehow looked way worse than this. DF is doing them a huge favor.

 

[Karim]

GI at 60 fps but but but Pro is a shitty hardware

 

[RodriGames40]

You know that MARKETING exists to actually SELL the game, right???

It didn't sell it to most of Gaf until now, your point?

 

[MisterXDTV]

It didn't sell it to most of Gaf until now, your point?

My point is simple: Sony doesn't give a fuck about GAF

LOL

 

[DeepEnigma]

1080p is the bare minimum you want to go for upscaling to 4k, and that's even true with DLSS4.

Which is fine, since its an even integer upscale. Which is why native 1080p games looked better on 4K sets than 720p games did on 1080p sets. Less blurring and artifacts due to the even integer especially with a larger pixel scaling gulf.

Once again, it's the bees knees on PC, and those threads never get the same two-faced comments these ones do. I wonder why that is?

1080p

I rest my case.