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Stand-in actress and CG.
Boss Doggie
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Wow, it's really seamless then. The crowd I watched had some nice reactions when the camera slowly panned to show her.
My understanding is that it's CGI. The fact you couldn't tell....
But then maybe I'm wrong. It's definitely not a shot from the original movie though.
Yeah. It helped a lot that she only had one word of dialogue.
Speaking of which... was than actress saying it or did they get carried fisher to record that line? (Lol, "line")
No idea on that mate. I just heard about the CG work they did for her and Tarkin, and I also got linked to a tweet from the stand-in actress about her 'secret getting out' over the next few days (portraying Leia).
It sounded a little off to me... not quite OG Leia, and definitely not current Carrie.
Peter Ian Staker
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I think they may have just cut her line from OT dialogue. Like they did for Obi Wan saying Rey in TFA.
I am more interested in how they managed to do Peter Cushing's voice. That was a lot of lines he got.
Boss Doggie
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Yeah, I was surprised Tarkin's character is very prominent. I thought it was a double doing a really great performance.
Salty Rice
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Guess i was right that not using the crawl would be a fucking dumb decision.
ClosingADoor
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The time skip at the start would have been a bit strange if they did I think. Crawl. Introduction. Time skip. Actual start.
No crawl was great. Instant signal this isn't the star wars you're used to.
Biggest surprise to me as well.
I actually appreciated the fact that they went all-out with Tarkin. What would have been even weirder than the CGI faces, would have been a prequel that is in such close proximity to the original movie, yet doesn't show any of the main characters of the original movie. (or just opted to show them from the back or other weird angles)
Similarly, i appreciated the fact that they showed Red 1 and Gold 1. It connects the movies in a way, 'these are the same rebels, this is the same fleet, the same pilot aces'
The only cameo that felt really off was the 2 Mos Eisley Cantina thugs ... i mean:
* First and foremost: ... Why?
* How did they make it off Jedha?
They were too in-your-face of a cameo imho, with no real pay-off.
Was there any narrative explanation as to why Mon Mothma isn't on Yavin IV anymore in ANH, btw?
Cool, will definitely check it out! I was kind of looking for something to watch. This might be it
Cool, will definitely check it out! I was kind of looking for something to watch. This might be it
Just like any Star Wars TV show, it has arcs that are rather important to the overall story, the formation of the Rebellion, the origin story of many beloved Rebel characters ...
And some that are just filler.
Also, since it's a kids show, barely anything of real consequence ever happens, apart from the season finales.
Fix The Scientist
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That was ok... it looked like star wars but it didn't really feel like star wars. Doesn't touch the force awakens.
Lifejumper
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My brother didnt even know Tarkin was CGI. Im interested to know if people who arent familiar with SW notice the CGI.
NekoFever
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It's going to be interesting to read how the canon blends the end of this with the beginning of IV, what with Vader watching the Tantive IV escape with the plans, then catching it and having Leia claim it's a diplomatic ship with no plans hidden aboard.
Vader's like, "I literally just watched you run away with my plans."
I suppose she could be playing politics, using her diplomatic immunity as a member of the Senate in the knowledge that Vader can't (legally) do anything to her. And that's why they announce that the Emperor has dissolved the Senate early in the movie, so that Vader's free to interrogate her however he wishes.
Vader's like, "I literally just watched you run away with my plans."
I suppose she could be playing politics, using her diplomatic immunity as a member of the Senate in the knowledge that Vader can't (legally) do anything to her. And that's why they announce that the Emperor has dissolved the Senate early in the movie, so that Vader's free to interrogate her however he wishes.
Lifejumper
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Wait... if the ghost was at Scarif... did it get destroyed with the rest of the fleet?
Salty Rice
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And yet it still was Star Wars. It just felt fucking weird with the "A long time ago..." but no crawl.
Like they cut it out.
Agree, noticed the same: some shots looked great and had a good pacing, others were distracting and seem to have another feel.
Especially the beginning feels a bit chaotic because of this. I also disliked the planet jumping.
But overall great movie, really enjoyed the last hour.
'the rest of the fleet'
to me it felt / looked like much of the fleet made it out fine. It was basically only the Mon Calamari cruiser (that gave birth to our favourite little correllian corvette) and a few transport ships(?) that didn't make it out in time.
Red 1 and Gold 1 sure as hell made it.
Lifejumper
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Gareth said the style of filming was intentional, switching up between handheld shots and the more classic approach.
Well, it didn't really work for me, especially in the beginning of the movie. It made it look incoherent and cheaper than it should be. It also makes it feel less "star-wars" in a way.
But still, great movie, just a little annoyance.
Lifejumper
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Oh man I need to watch it again in 2D.
Surprised there are some people that didn't see the CGI, maybe it's because I watched the movie in proper 2D that it looked way more obvious over the 3D conversion or something, but it was just really obvious in-your-face to me.
I don't really understand the idea that to have Tarkin you must have CGI. They could have recast the role and made it look like Tarkin with some make-up. I know it's never going to look exactly like Cushing, but that would have been okay, we know he died 40 years ago, it's fine.
I don't really understand the idea that to have Tarkin you must have CGI. They could have recast the role and made it look like Tarkin with some make-up. I know it's never going to look exactly like Cushing, but that would have been okay, we know he died 40 years ago, it's fine.
well, it's all a matter of preference, i guess.
Either you recast it as closely as possible or you CGI it as closely as possible.
Going the CGI route, you have the advantage that you can use the voice actor you've been using in other depictions of Tarkin (namely Rebels).
Finding someone who not only looks like Tarkin, but also does a great voice impersonation of him would be really really hard.
So i feel like going the CGI route is a better, but also 'safer', approach.
Like, if you had never seen any movie and watched the two movies (RO and ANH) back to back, having 2 different actors would be super jarring.
Especially if you've only recast him for this one movie. Unlike Mon Mothma, who could very well show up in other Anthology films, Tarkin is dead after ANH, and i don't see them doing yet another pre-prequel (something before Rogue One) anytime soon.
And recasting Leia would just be super wrong.
If she loves the films and knows what's gonna happen in ANH, i think you can take her.
and imho, Sith wasn't dark in the end ... it was more like ... Edgy.
There were scenes in TFA that felt 'darker' / scarier. (Kylo Ren torture scenes, the murder of Han Solo, imho) What makes this movie mildly depressing is the fact that a number of characters do not survive this mission - and that loss is far harder to deal with if you don't know that it's all gonna end up being worth it, as soon as the credits roll.
Peter Ian Staker
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If Anakin getting burned alive isn't too dark for your 8 year old nothing in Star Wars will ever be.
ClosingADoor
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A lot more of the good guys die this time around. But I guess if she can handle the deaths in Episode 7, this isn't really any worse.
The tone is more "we need to fight to keep hope alive" instead of "there is no hope at all."
Lifejumper
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General syndulla actually. A character from the animated Star Wars show.
That's the scene I was most apprehensive about and it didn't phase her, yet scenes with Vader in Empire did (Hans torture).
Kids are weird.
This is what I was intrigued about
"Syndulla"
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Hera_Syndulla
it's either Hera or her father
Not weird at all. A beloved character being tied up and tortured makes our stomachs turn more than a whiny dickhead receiving his comuppeance for being a genocidal, youngling-ocidal asshat
There you go. Can't say I'm not a little disappointed.
Lifejumper
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Generic conversion. It sucked. Actually made the movie less enjoyable for me.
ZackieChan
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Yep. Really excellent.
It also raises the stakes of Episode 4. You feel like the Rebellion is really on its last legs after a go for broke mission to get those plans. Hence why there's only a handful of ships attacking the Death Star at Yavin IV.
That's a shame. TFA in 3D is awesome.
Boss Doggie
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Yeah I agree the first part of the movie where it was planet-jumping was a bit annoying but it finally becomes firm the moment they went to the desert planet.
Also R2D2/C3PO scene was kinda pointless. They don't really need to be there.
And yeah, rather than aping ANH, this instead fleshes it out further, it's why I love this more than ANH.
Also R2D2/C3PO scene was kinda pointless. They don't really need to be there.
And yeah, rather than aping ANH, this instead fleshes it out further, it's why I love this more than ANH.
No. It's good that they all died, I like it. But it hardly ever happens in films, least of all a Star Wars film. I think it's a good move having none of the main characters make it out, but that doesn't stop it being weird. Name another film where all the main characters die. It's pretty rare. This ain't no film for kids!
Since both Bail and Leia are there, then yeah, they actually would be there.
It was a nice cameo, nothing offensive, just acknowledging that they exist and since they end up on the ship in ANH, and this ends where that movie starts, actually prevents people from wondering "hey, why didn't they show the droids?"
i actually feel like they were really quite well placed. It would have been super jarring to have them show up within that final scene. They're comic relief, the film ended on a rather dark note.
Hence they put them somewhere in between, just before the final battle - mainly to keep up the trend of C3PO and R2D2 being in every single StarWars movie.
Totally okay with that.
I was afraid it would somehow devalue Luke's / the Force's achievement in blowing up the death star. Thankfully, it didn't.
As far as i understood it, Mads created the reactor in a way that a single well placed detonation would create a chain reaction.
He didn't specifically mention / construct the exhaust vent.
All he did was guarantee that even an attack of 'Rebellion' scale could blow up the Death Star as a whole. Whether it was a well placed detonation within the station via infiltration, or the torpedo via said exhaust vent.
Also, the fact that the rebels were willing to sacrifice so much just to steal these plans gives further plausibility that Vader / Tarkin would spend so much time / energy on reclaiming them - and even signing the death warrant of Princess Leia, a member of the imperial senate.
Before, they were just blueprints, now they're "blueprints that the rebels sacrificed an entire fleet for, leaked by an engineer who secretly worked for the Rebels.
Boss Doggie
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While I agree with your last part, it kinda bothered me because wasn't it implied Leia was elsewhere? Like the Senator was about to pick her up?
Peter Ian Staker
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Sometimes the implication of violence can be more powerful than violence itself, especially when somebody is young and has a vibrant fantasy.
The kids are all right.
Took my 7 yo daughter with me yesterday. No problems at all. Go for it.
Peter Ian Staker
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Pablo Hidalgo confirmed on Twitter that Vader's lair is actually on Mustafar.
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