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Rogue One: A Star Wars Story |OT| They rebel - SPOILERS

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Just got back. Loved it. Does the SWU justice. Too bad some characters couldn't be developed a little more in the movie but what you gonna do.

MillionStabs said:
I'm disappointed at no Boba Fett, but it's pretty much a given that he'll be in the Han Solo movie, right?


Also a friend of mine is freaking out how the planet shield is a carbon copy of the air lock from Space Balls and won't shut up about it. I haven't seen Space Balls so, is he right?
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Yup he is.
 
Of all the returning ANH characters that bothered me, the worst was Vader in his lava palace scene. His tone of voice wasn't one of disinterest/dispassion bordering on intimidating annoyance, it seemed almost playful, and that felt out of place.
 
For all the faults this had (honestly I don't have as many as some of you guys) it truly was a fantastic film by the end. For the entirety of Scarriff I was so happy and absolutely enthralled in the film. I was really emotionally affected by the Rebel Alliance showing up to help out, far more so than I've ever felt watching the climax in ROTJ. Hearing and seeing Gold Leader and Red Leader checking in... so cool. The space stuff was fucking incredible and the climax built up wonderfully. As soon as K2 sacrificed himself to help get the plans I sorta knew no one else was escaping this. The fact that even Krennic is doomed by Tarkin really was inspired.

Now we truly know the stakes involved in fighting the Empire and see the cost that so many pay as they try their damndest to beat it. Brings a lot more gravitas to the entire saga of I'm honest.

Can't wait to see it again next week.
 
Just finished watching! Omg that ending! Sooooooo good! I was nearly in tears watching Vader demolish everyone knowing it was the last time we'll see that.
 
JoeMartin said:
First 30 minutes is a little scattershot, but once you get to Jedha it settles in and is easily the best Star Wars has to offer.

RO > ESB > ANH > TFA > ROTJ

I think the most surprising thing about this movie was that Disney let it happen this way. Thing was dark and violent thru and thru. Literally everyone dies, and not in a good way. There was actually nothing feel good or plucky about any of it.
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yeah this blows my fucking mind

I definitely liked the movie, but it was so clearly a level below the original trilogy
 
Einchy said:
Best thing about Rogue One is that it actually makes A New Hope better.
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RIGHT?!

I was like well then.

So new hatchet viewing order:
Rogue One
A New Hope
Empire Strikes Back
Attack of the Clones
Revenge of the Sith
Return of the Jedi
The Force Awakens.

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In other news, I've only got like eight more books and the TV shows before I'm all caught up on the current canon.
 
Great CG on Tarkin and Leia. Like holy shit.

I knew it was CG, but just because you can tell something is CG doesn't make it "bad CG". Way better than previous attempts at this like in Tron.

Also good lord the battle scenes in this blow TFA (and honestly the other films) out of the water.
 
Just got out of the theater. Overall impression: I loved it.

- Loved the prologue scene instead of the opening crawl for this
- Was not a fan of of the yellow 'Rogue One' text in between scenes. It felt very amateurish and did not fit in well
- The jumping from planet to planet in the beginning just made the pacing feel weird. And really it felt like this throughout the film as it transitioned from one scene to the next
- Loved CG Tarkin and Leia. I saw screenshots of them prior to the viewing but after seeing them in action I was in shock with how well they looked.
- I wish Saw Gerrera was more like he was in the Clone Wars. He had the extremist view in a way but other than that he didn't remind me of the cartoon character at all.
- I wish we had more of Krennic
- Vader, while he was in for a short time, was everything I've been wanting to see out of him since watching Rebels and reading his comic run.
- Loved the Rebels references
- The space battle as a whole is amazing and is another thing I've wanted to see for a long time.
- For some reason the ending felt weird. Left with mixed emotions and felt like was really sudden if that makes sense.

Best way to put it:
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JoeMartin said:
Of all the returning ANH characters that bothered me, the worst was Vader in his lava palace scene. His tone of voice wasn't one of disinterest/dispassion bordering on intimidating annoyance, it seemed almost playful, and that felt out of place.
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I actually kinda liked this. Like I could more easily believe that the Vader in this movie was the Anakin in Episode III. I know that sounds like backhanded praise at best, but I actually liked that it brought that aspect of his character into it. Like it was kind of a bridge between his persona at the end of the prequels to that of the original trilogy.
 
RyanW said:
Just got out of the theater. Overall impression: I loved it.

- Loved the prologue scene instead of the opening crawl for this
- Was not a fan of of the yellow 'Rogue One' text in between scenes. It felt very amateurish and did not fit in well
- The jumping from planet to planet in the beginning just made the pacing feel weird. And really it felt like this throughout the film as it transitioned from one scene to the next
- Loved CG Tarkin and Leia. I saw screenshots of them prior to the viewing but after seeing them in action I was in shock with how well they looked.
- I wish Saw Gerrera was more like he was in the Clone Wars. He had the extremist view in a way but other than that he didn't remind me of the cartoon character at all.
- I wish we had more of Krennic
- Vader, while he was in for a short time, was everything I've been wanting to see out of him since watching Rebels and reading his comic run.
- Loved the Rebels references
- The space battle as a whole is amazing and is another thing I've wanted to see for a long time.
- For some reason the ending felt weird. Left with mixed emotions and felt like was really sudden if that makes sense.

Best way to put it:
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Read Catalyst.
 
Wife and I just watched the first 10 minutes of ANH and it seriously makes everything so much clearer. And the whole title and the idea that they literally were about to give up but then didn't becuase Rogue One went and did work...

Still on that high right now.
 
Fucking great movie, not just a great Star Wars movie, which it is as well. Such a beautiful movie and story with great characters and excellent action and pacing. I've never been the biggest Star Wars nerd but as a film nerd I never thought the series would ever attain the greatness it did with Empire, and Force Awakens only deepened that belief, but tonight I was proven wrong. Rogue One is an amazing fucking sic-fi adventure that stands behind only Empire as the best "film" in the franchise.


Also....


I can't believe they all fucking died! I mean holy shit, Rogue One 'da real suicide squad!
 
Anth0ny said:
yeah this blows my fucking mind

I definitely liked the movie, but it was so clearly a level below the original trilogy
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I watched all three again within the last 2 days to be sure I wasn't glossing things over. RO definitely handled the self-sacrifice motif better than ESB (in that there actually was some of consequence) and that's even giving ESB the benefit of having Degobah sincerely fleshed out by the books.

My biggest letdown of the movie was that Krennic was aenemic and came off as particularly petulant, which I didn't like since he was closer to a self aware sociopath in Catalyst, and a truly devious schemer, where everything he did in the movie was heavy handed.
 
I have mixed thoughts. The final 45 minutes are pure fantasticness, and everything I wanted. Call backs were awesome. The first part of the movie was pretty boring, all of the human characters ranged from generally unremarkable to annoying (K-2 was the only character I actually liked from the main cast). Gin is a poor written character with how quickly she swings between just being along for the ride and actually motivating everything, which was really strange. Aside from the actual characters, this was a pretty good movie
 
came back.

That director dude can take blaster shots like a champ. Need to use his genes for clone troopers, seriously.


Donnie Yen having a comical role was surprising. Are there any novels/comics more about him and his homie?


I wish we knew more about them... their deaths just felt less impactful. Still wasn't sure why they tagged along. Reminds me of 'filler' jrpg party members, that are just there. I assume to appeal to china market?


I swear like 3 xwings got under the shield but there seemed to be more and more lol.

I liked i though. Crazy topical right now, with this band of minorities and a woman fighting white men.


Can someone explain to me what those 'frigate' size ships the alliance has do? I swear they do nothing in this movie, or in ROTJ. They just are there.
 
Inceptional said:
I can't believe they all fucking died! I mean holy shit, Rogue One 'da real suicide squad!
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A pretty sober film in that regard. When they said the sacrifice to get those plans was great, they meant it. Perhaps easily forgotten given everyone that matters makes it to the end of the original trilogy.

Jeffrey said:
I swear like 3 xwings got under the shield but there seemed to be more and more lol.


Can someone explain to me what those 'frigate' size ships the alliance has do? I swear they do nothing in this movie, or in ROTJ. They just are there.
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it was actually the other way around. Only 3 X-Wings failed to get through.

the frigates are meat shields as far as the movies go. they are used to support the fleet, take fire and fire against other semi-capital ships with their volume of turbolasers.
 
mdubs said:
Gin is a poor written character with how quickly she swings between just being along for the ride and actually motivating everything, which was really strange. Aside from the actual characters, this was a pretty good movie
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Her dad dying kicked her wack ass into motion for once

A true millennial

BassForever said:
I wish we got more scenes of the male lead riding the line cause that opening scene with him killing the injured rebel was fantastic.
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Shot that fucker right in the back, no sympy at all
 
Just got home. Loved it.

The only thing I noticed that bothered me: the Rebel attack on wherever Jen's father was. Why they left the one ship (the director's transport) on the dock after annihilating everything else made no sense. Actually them sending that weak of an attack just because they couldn't reach the main guy. Or the fact they hoped to kill Gaylan from the exterior.
 
MetatronM said:
Just got back from Rogue One. That was...kinda great actually. I had relatively low expectations, and I'd say it wildly exceeded them.

I would say the first half of the movie was a little bit messy and disjointed, and a few characters who seemed like they would/should be more involved in the plot were over and done with pretty quickly considering the build up. Definitely felt like it could have been helpful to have seen a little bit of Jyn's time as one of Saw Gerrera's soldiers.

Sticking with negatives for a second, CG Tarkin was pretty distracting. I get why they did it, but it was very noticable.

That's about it for serious critiques, though. Otherwise the film was tons of fun, the characters were really enjoyable (K-2SO was great, kind of a friendlier HK-47), and the only final act was really awesome. If it didn't really feel very Star Wars-y early on, it sure as shit did by the end. The action sequences were definitely pretty spectacular and had a real urgency to them.

I'd love to watch Rogue One and A New Hope back to back. It seems like it would lend a lot of gravity to the opening scene in A New Hope especially, and it would be interesting to see how it changes the perception of some characters like Vader and Tarkin.
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I've got ANH on my Amazon Prime account for Roku, so I'm definitely doing a double feature either tomorrow or Saturday.
 
I love this movie. The first third perhaps felt a bit all over the place but once it got going I was so damn into it. Pretty much from landing of Forest Whitaker's planet onwards was when I started to highly enjoy it.

The best part about the film is that it actually enhances episode 4. So much was sacrificed to get those Death Star plans so they can blow it up. Explains perfectly why there was even a flaw in the Death Star in the first place and how the rebels knew about it. Gives those scenes in the original movie more weight to me.

If this is the standard of these standalone films then I'm all for annualized Star Wars.
 
i wish they slowed vader down a bit. he was moving a bit too quickly imo, and the movement felt like CG... the lightsaber flow reminds me of Clone Wars actually.
 
Just got back, mega-nerd HOT TAKES:

-CG Tarkin looked terrible
-CG Leia looked almost as terrible
-The old footage of Red Leader and Gold Leader didn't blend well
-The production design was overall good, but that Imperial ID card looked like something you could get made at a mall kiosk
-The Krennic/Vader scene was awful. Vader's body acting was bad, you could see the lifts/heals on his boots, and he had a fucking corny one-liner
 
Saw RO tonight and for me it is a nearly-perfect SW film. A bit of a slow burn for the first 30 minutes, but man it gains steam after that. When the credits rolled all I could think was it must be 1977 and I'm 15 again. Literally, you could splice ANH to the end of RO and it would work gloriously.
 
I liked it a lot but a part of me felt I wouldn't have been upset if this story was never told. The last 10 mins was great in terms of the fan service with Vader fucking up them, Leia, etc. Actually the last 1/3rd was great. I just felt the rest was just meandering a bit. I figured everyone was going to die. Seemed like the only real ending this this which I like in a way. Unsung heroes of a war.

I'm not a super fan of the series but I do like it. So maybe I can't speak for others. I definitely enjoyed it but this felt like a weird stop gap


I will say there was a "charm" to it that reminded me off the old movies compared to episode 7....they got that down
 
If anything you have to at least give the movie credit for being the first prequel to not only be good, but retro-actively make the first film better, which is fundamentally what a prequel is supposed to do. Rogue One informs the original while also being a great film on it's own.
 
I don't know if it was me not noticing. However it seemed every time you were introduced to a new planet, its name showed up in the corner of the screen. It did it every planet except Mustafar. Or did I totally ignore it as I was geeking out over finally seeing Vader's Castle?
 
Great movie. It's basically a two-part movie with A New Hope being Part 2.

The small details really made the movie work for me. Glad the design team really focused on the retro-futuristic look to match up with the Original Trilogy.

Story-wise, it's fairly straightforward. I can definitely see it as a TV series had the live action series worked out. Climax was AMAZING. Straight up the shit I want to see in Star Wars more. And the ending was perfect. I had this ending made up in my head where Leia from afar starts recording her message to Obi-Wan with R2, but I thought Leia's sole line "hope" was just perfect.

And Vader...audience lit up when he just slaughtered the rebels. DAMN SON.

Characters weren't so fleshed out, and the pace is pretty quick, but I can believe the immediate camaraderie, vs. El Diablo in Suicide Squad calling his group "family" after a night, not that Rogue One went to those lengths to hammer the team concept in our heads.

Jyn was great, and it sucks that her story is open and closed, but I'm hoping for a comics series or something.

I disagree with the THR review talking about a male lead that doesn't match up with Felicity Jones. I thought Diego Luna brought a balance, with Cassian being this conflicted character vs. Jyn being headstrong and gung-ho.

Wish we got more out of Chirrut and Baze, also two characters I'd like to see a comic series about.

K2 was hilarious, his humour hovered on dark, which I liked a lot, in comparison to C3PO.

The Tarkin CG was eerie, straight up uncanny valley. I'm not sure if his face was moving too much or too little. The eyes looked too much like glass with the lighting and reflection. But man, it was cool as hell even if it was really eerie.

Leia was better, probably because she didn't have as much screentime. Less glass eyes than Tarkin.

Bobby, I can see what you're talking about with the weird mouth movements, but I'd say that's all on Tarkin. Can't say the same for Leia, but a repeat viewing might change my mind.

Going to watch this again soon. Probably twice more with friends and family.
 
hamchan said:
I love this movie. The first third perhaps felt a bit all over the place but once it got going I was so damn into it. Pretty much from landing of Forest Whitaker's planet onwards was when I started to highly enjoy it.

The best part about the film is that it actually enhances episode 4. So much was sacrificed to get those Death Star plans so they can blow it up. Explains perfectly why there was even a flaw in the Death Star in the first place and how the rebels knew about it. Gives those scenes in the original movie more weight to me.

If this is the standard of these standalone films then I'm all for annualized Star Wars.
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absolutely walked away feeling like that. what a prequel SHOULD do.
 
I still wish this movie or something explained lore wise the transition between CG futuristic tech to old 80's buttons and vector graphic displays.

Was this ever explained in the EU?
 
Just got back. It was far from perfect (Tarkin, Vader's terrible one-liner, silly cameos) but the highs were so fucking high that I don't care. The last 45 or so minutes were incredible.
 
peteykirch said:
I don't know if it was me not noticing. However it seemed every time you were introduced to a new planet, its name showed up in the corner of the screen. It did it every planet except Mustafar. Or did I totally ignore it as I was geeking out over finally seeing Vader's Castle?
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It said Mordor in the corner. You missed it. Least the locations weren't blasted in your face like they were in Civil War.

I don't think they explicitly mentioned the location now that you mention it. I think it was Mustafar. Palpatine must have kept him there for 30 years as a life lesson on lava safety?
 
I'll write more detailed later, but I just got out and wow. This was NOT good. I cared about none of the good guys at all. The script was a mess. The dialogue lacked all subtlety. One of the only positives was the final Vader scene and the new villain. I honestly can't remember 95% of the new characters names in this.

JoeMartin said:
Of all the returning ANH characters that bothered me, the worst was Vader in his lava palace scene. His tone of voice wasn't one of disinterest/dispassion bordering on intimidating annoyance, it seemed almost playful, and that felt out of place.
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That scene was really bad. His voice didn't sound right, and his suit looked off.
 
Just saw it:

- Loved the humor
- Loved the action
- Loved all the references - from familiar side characters to prequel references, it never felt forced.
- Vader looked like cosplay to me, especially the walk toward Krennic with his abdomen piece bobbing as he walked. That was so glaring.
- Felt little sympathy for the characters. They seemed to draw out their scenes, making them die one by one, which felt more forced.
- So much exposition. I get that the general audience likes being told what's going on, but man it was like explaining things to my kids. But I get it, Star Wars is for kids just as much.

I didn't like TFA much, and my first reaction is this is right below that.
 
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This didn't happen in the movie? She makes it to the end of the platform and is stopped by Krennic on her way back.

Is this a cut scene or an alternate take. I thought he was going to take a Tie Fighter up to the top vs. follow her by foot.
 
Also a big fan of how Krennic dies. Very fitting that the thing he's fighting to earn credit for is what does him in in the end.
 
Malyse said:
RIGHT?!

I was like well then.

So new hatchet viewing order:
Rogue One
A New Hope
Empire Strikes Back
Attack of the Clones
Revenge of the Sith
Return of the Jedi
The Force Awakens.

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In other news, I've only got like eight more books and the TV shows before I'm all caught up on the current canon.
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Which books?
 
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