Skel1ingt0n
I can't *believe* these lazy developers keep making file sizes so damn large. Btw, how does technology work?
Well then I guess I'm too dumb to understand Star Wars Rogue One.
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Well then I guess I'm too dumb to understand Star Wars Rogue One.
The first scene of him with other people and walking and talking was straight up terrible. The later scenes were ok.
brandonh83
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This is honestly a rare occasion where CG has completely taken me out of a movie.
ryutaro's mama
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Cause it's unneeded and only there for fan service. Put it like this, seeing 3P0 and R2 in the final shot with Leia would have made more sense.
As it was it was jarring and out of place.
Razgriz-Specter
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Call me crazy but the callback that got me the most was
I certainly didn't expect a Turbo Tank in a million years.
Rebels stuff was spoiled for me so this is what got me.
I certainly didn't expect a Turbo Tank in a million years.
OricWindstar
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I agree some of the characters are underdeveloped, but I thought Cassian was the shit. Surprised more people don't feel that way.
Which almost makes it strange character-wise that she still wants to help these people even after Casseian blows her off talking about how he was gonna murder her dad and then the council says no to helping her. But oh well plot demands we gotta get the plans now so lets go.
RatskyWatsky
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I thought the young RDJ in Civil War and the young Anthony Hopkins in Westworld looked far more convincing than cgi Leia. I wonder why they didn't go for a similar effect in Rogue One?
apparently if he is not a blonde guy trying to get out of their uncles farm, they are "underdeveloped"
ZackieChan
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Yes, I hear they're shutting down ILM because of it.
WadiumArcadium
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Yeah, I loved seeing them again. Always thought it was a fun design.
ryutaro's mama
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Naw, Rey was more developed than Jyn too.
WhiteRabbitEXE
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Eeeeehhh... Do not want. I'd rather not have the movies go into the 6-7 gap. Or rather, I'd prefer not to see the main cast's story during that era, full spin-offs would be fine though. I think its better to keep that period of their lives to partial stories and whatnot. Leave a little bit a mystery and open elements there - we don't actually need to see how lame of parents Han and Leia were. Plus, I loved how VII handled Han's story and we're already getting a whole prequel movie on him. I don't really want even more mining of the character, since I think the arc is great as is.
I liked Cassien and his conflict. There could have been some real gold there, actually I thought the opening moments of the film were quite strong. When he blasts that informant it was an oh shit moment. The movie fails its characters more often than not however
Her dad spent years working on the Death Star to add a weakness, she's not about to say fuck it and not finish her dad's work.
I did appreciate what I thought was a fairly subtle arc for him.
He's willing to sacrifice people for the cause easily, but only before the final battle does he really think about sacrificing himself.
Probably had something to do with her receiving his message and then talking with him...................... just maybe?
Thought it was mediocre. TFA is far better largely because it has a cast of characters with charisma that you actually care about. Didn't think the main character in this was in any way fleshed out and the most interesting characters (Mikkelson + Whitaker) were underused. The callbacks to the original trilogy felt forced and focus tested. The CGI Leia was god fucking awful and will age horrendously. Film would have benefited greatly from cutting back on the relentless CGI set pieces and cutting the main cast in half. Should have at least shown us Jyn growing up being trained and spent much more time building her as a character. That or cast an actress that can manage more than a handful of facial expressions and/or give her better dialogue to work with.
Some of the impressions here have me seriously perplexed.
Some of the impressions here have me seriously perplexed.
OricWindstar
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Yeah, they could have pulled more out of him for sure, but I thought what we got was still great. It's definitely a Gareth Edwards movie, but it's way more emotional than Godzilla ever was.
really? fuck people,
she didnt do it for the ALLIANCE; or for CARSSAN.
she did it for her father, the father who was taken from her, the father who was thinking about her for 15 years without know if she was alive or dead.
she did it because his father worked on that weakness as their retribution for what the empire did to them.
i swear people arent even trying to hide their bitrol
brandonh83
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Worst in the series.
Yeah, cg aliens are easy to accept. Even not quite on par cg aliens don't really hurt a movie that takes place in a galaxy full of aliens. But if you're gonna cg a human, and a person we've seen on film before in the flesh, get it right or don't do it at all. I like how Tarkin was used in the movie. It flushes out his character as a ruthless Imperial leader. But the cg just wasn't right.
It was her dad's entire plan. Everything he did would have been for nothing if she'd given up. Going after the plans seemed the obvious thing for her to do.
Skel1ingt0n
I can't *believe* these lazy developers keep making file sizes so damn large. Btw, how does technology work?
Rey and Finn were both developed just fine.
Where were you when everyone was bitching about Rey and calling her a Mary Sue?
Nah that shit is still way too hard and will cost a bunch of money whenever you have even a basic shot of the characters.
CreepingFear
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I get that. I think it would have been cool to see Luke build his Jedi colony, even though we know what happens to it. Cartoon then ala Rebels and Clone Wars?
Skel1ingt0n
I can't *believe* these lazy developers keep making file sizes so damn large. Btw, how does technology work?
And hours later she was falling in love with the man who blew her off when she confronted him for lying to her and attempting to kill her father.
EDIT: I should reiterate - I don't hate the film. I enjoyed it. I just think the developments that were there were too few, and often times too swiftly pushed forward.
I liked the main character - but a more pleasing arch would have been vastly preferable. That's all.
WhiteRabbitEXE
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1) Well, yes, absolutely. Any sort of familiarity automatically means we're more capable of picking up the flaws.
2) Fans tend to look for flaws, even if they don't consciously mean to.
3) Many of us here, and many core fans in general, also just happen to be more attuned to what's going on in a movie anyway. The average film viewer isn't even going to notice the blatantly CGI clone armor in Attack of the Clones for example. The overwhelming majority of people just don't pick up on that, and are often much more easily impressed. A lot of times when more casual viewers "pick up" on CGI flaws - and this is for any movie - it's more because folks like us point us towards them.
These are the comments I came into this thread for lmao.
ryutaro's mama
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I feel like he was really the wrong choice for this, should have kept him to the second unit on the set pieces.
Sanctuary
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Honestly, neither of the two CGI characters bothered me all that much. I could tell that they weren't actually the real faces of those actors acting live, but for CGI they did a really good job. I have to wonder though why they were able to make young Tony Stark look so much more convincing in comparison. IMO the worst offenders of CGI were the Calamari.
Regardless, CGI bugs me when done poorly. The Hulk, in every modern incarnation really gets on my nerves. As far as the technology has come, Hulk in the Avengers movies simply looks terrible to me. If he was placed inside an actual CGI film, he would look fantastic, but the contrast between his CGI and that of living beings is terrible. He is in no way remotely convincing.
Don't really have much else to say about the film that I didn't already say in the preview thread. It was "okay", and the last thirty minutes were pretty much the only scenes worth watching that didn't have K-2 talking. Everyone else was just cardboard characters.
Regardless, CGI bugs me when done poorly. The Hulk, in every modern incarnation really gets on my nerves. As far as the technology has come, Hulk in the Avengers movies simply looks terrible to me. If he was placed inside an actual CGI film, he would look fantastic, but the contrast between his CGI and that of living beings is terrible. He is in no way remotely convincing.
Don't really have much else to say about the film that I didn't already say in the preview thread. It was "okay", and the last thirty minutes were pretty much the only scenes worth watching that didn't have K-2 talking. Everyone else was just cardboard characters.
Now that's a load of bullshit. It's not even an opinion, it's simply untrue. Millions of people cared for them before there were any sequels.
The only one you learn anything about in this film is Jyn.
Now I like the other characters and the film, but after the film they still are Latino Han Solo, blind Kilik, and Chinese The Fury. Oh and the last king of Jedha.
WadiumArcadium
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Captain of the Blockbuster Defense Force no more.
he disobeyed orders for her sake, and he was there with her when the council didnt wanted to back her up. and you know he was right with his speech about "doing something about it"
also falling in love, you are cleary exagerating things now
You're right but maybe the actual way it was shown on screen didn't completely convince me. Like I said before, more character-building scenes would have helped better show that.
Wrong. Just rewatched Episode IV and they said their latest master was Captain Antilles.
A long time has passed between the droids becoming property of Bail Organa in Episode III and then Antilles in Episode IV, you can read up on that history here.
Let's not get crazy now
Because A) Seeing her father again and understanding the sacrifices he made in order to give the faintest hope of defeating the Empire renewed her faith in the cause and she's well past the point of letting obstinacy from others stop her from doing everything she can to fight, and B) The empire has a giant space laser that can destroy planets and it needs to be stopped at all costs. This is kind of important insofar as motivation goes.
That doesn't answer my question. Who cares?
WhiteRabbitEXE
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I'd be ok with books and comics, but any kind of thing on-screen (even a TV series) is a no for me personally. Even though they're canon, I think I'm a lot more lenient for what happens in print, as the very medium itself creates an automatic divide of sorts. So like, a book series that goes even extremely in-depth would be fine by me and I'd totally read it, even if that doesn't really make sense.
I guess I'd be okay with the story being an arc in a cartoon, but really only if it were a small part of a series otherwise not about them.
Razgriz-Specter
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Only problem with Leia was honestly it looked like old Carrie Fisher with extreme makeup or CG touchups
vs a full cg of a young Leia.
vs a full cg of a young Leia.
That's not accurate. We learn much more about Luke, Obi, Leia, and Han in ANH than we do about anyone in Rogue One not named Jyn.
RatskyWatsky
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I hate this idea but I think I would have preferred a cgi Harrison Ford in the young Han Solo movie instead of them casting a completely different looking actor in the role.
ryutaro's mama
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I explained in detail why I cared.
It can't be worse than Episode 2, that's hard to top!
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