I thought about this, too, but then I realized that the AT-AT's we see in the climax probably aren't full battle-ready AT-AT's. Many of them visibly missing parts (like the one with the hole in the middle) and this is just the garrison of the planet, they weren't prepared for a battle on the surface. Compare this to Hoth in ESB (and Battlefront, I guess) where we're dealing with a full-on invasion. Of course the Empire would use the best AT-AT's they have for that.
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I thought about this, too, but then I realized that the AT-AT's we see in the climax probably aren't full battle-ready AT-AT's. Many of them visibly missing parts (like the one with the hole in the middle) and this is just the garrison of the planet, they weren't prepared for a battle on the surface. Compare this to Hoth in ESB (and Battlefront, I guess) where we're dealing with a full-on invasion. Of course the Empire would use the best AT-AT's they have for that.
Miles Quaritch
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Valhalla Rising and The Hunt? Although I don't know if they fall under what you're asking.
Miles Quaritch
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The effects were incredible, but some of the issues with the effects were noticeable during close up shots and scenes where he talked. They looked ever so slightly unrealistic in movements.
But bloody impressive effects have come that far. Another couple of years and I think they'll have perfected the tech.
Why would he need to step his game up?
He didn't compose Rogue One. Ep7 trailer music is just the Force Theme.
Count Dookkake
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Person I went with did not realize that Tarkin was cg. She was genuinely impressed to learn that.
I think that if the general audience is as accepting of cg Tarkin, then this is going to be the beginning of some very interesting possibilities for this franchise and probably others, too.
Imagine new Star Trek with dueling Kirks via a young Shatner. Endless possibility for Terminator.
I think that if the general audience is as accepting of cg Tarkin, then this is going to be the beginning of some very interesting possibilities for this franchise and probably others, too.
Imagine new Star Trek with dueling Kirks via a young Shatner. Endless possibility for Terminator.
yeah, we were wondering about this too.
The credits had "Peter Cushing Estate somethingsomething" in the 'Special Thanks' section. So either they were paid or they generously permitted the use of Cushing's likeness.
Robin Williams specifically took measures as to not have him be 'revived' digitally.
https://www.theguardian.com/film/20...restricted-use-image-despite-existing-us-laws
MisterAnderson
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The force theme used in the Ep7 trailer was definitely re-composed, however. But it was never used in Ep7. It had more emotional weight in the trailer than any track did in the movie, is what I meant to imply I suppose.
And I must have misread the credits of Rogue One when it creddited John Williams for something, I guess it was probably for use of some of his tunes and not the full score.
Let me rephrase - John Williams and any other composers working on future Star Wars movies should do their best to match the emotional weight to this track (just use the damn track, lol):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGbxmsDFVnE
Edit: It also has a really nice redone version of the "romance" theme from ESB
Peter Ian Staker
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Was this shot in the movie? I wanna say it wasn't but I'm not too sure.
Also, watching the trailers, it's insane how much footage they ended up not using. The movie came out amazing so it was probably for the best, though.
Yes it was. You see it during the Jedah sequence.
SuperAndroid17
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This Score was so much better and more memorable than John Williams TFA OST.
TFA has no memorable themes.
TFA has no memorable themes.
FusedAtoms
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I find myself humming Rey's theme every now and then.
But anyways as happy as I was seeing Vader on screen I found that action scene slightly underwhelming but it was still really cool.
Dash_Riprock
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Just got out from seeing it. It was pretty good. Some more character development could have been used, and the fanservice was far too on the nose at times. But I liked the look and feel, no major ass plotholes, good action at the end, and the robot was awesome. Overall, it was decent little sidestory, which is the key word here, sidestory. People that goes into these expecting nonstop epic and iconic moments like in the main episodes are going to be sorely disappointed. That wasn't the goal here, and I'm glad Disney didn't appear to be aiming for that anyhow.
I know this is just a great troll, but what the hell...
- Phantom Menace is a terrible, dull film with horrid script, acting, and directing.
- None of the climaxes in TPM are good. The land battle is just some embarrassing physical comedy, the space battle has no stakes or excitement, and the lightsaber battle is a soulless cirque de soleil piece of acrobatics.
- Maul is not a character, just a prop that holds a lightsaber.
- The Pod Race is the most meaningless fluff piece of all the Star Wars films to date.
Jar Jar Binks is the least of that film's problems.
Rays Theme and Jedi Steps exists.
Mix Master
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this is the 2nd time in a month and a half Disney did my mans Mikkelson wrong! It ain't Right.
I wish the whole "well, you're not allowed to be critical of thing because YOU can't do any better" worked for programming. I'd love to tell people to stfu about the website I build them, because they couldn't program one. That would be nice.
Kylo Ren's theme was also great.
Both of them are Danish films unfortunately.
I liked TFA a bit better but this was still a pretty good Star Wars movie.
CGI Leia looked weird. There are better ways to do that scene more subtle. The shot from behind was enough (or just show the familiar hair if you want to make sure absolutely everyone gets it).
Yes it has.
CGI Leia looked weird. There are better ways to do that scene more subtle. The shot from behind was enough (or just show the familiar hair if you want to make sure absolutely everyone gets it).
Yes it has.
This.
I actually think the audio in TFA does the score a disservice. Listening to it in isolation gave me a new fondness for it and I find myself humming a bunch of it all the time - nearly as much as I hum The Force Theme or the Imperial March.
I think her appearance would have been fine if they didn't do the whole "back to the camera, get the audience ready for a big reveal". If she was just simply there, a part of the action.
TFA soundtrack is pretty good, but Williams peaked with his Episode 3 OST, I hope he can go back to that place for the next one. If he does that one, that is.
Avid Reading Horse
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The first third or so totally sucked. Forest Whitaker was a total disaster. It did turn around pretty well after that. But there is some cheesy stuff in there and whenever you go HAM with retcon stuff it's never going to be perfect. But overall it was very solid and much better than The Force Awakens.
TheOneWhoKnocks
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In india we have a break to pee halfway into the movie.
MisterAnderson
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Rey's theme was good and there were other occasional great moments for sure. The constant re-use of that one jingle every time the Falcon was shown flying in the frame/taking off/doing anything was overdone though, and I stand by my claim that nothing came close to the emotional high I get every time I hear the music from this trailer, regardless of them being rehashed themes from the OT.
I hope he does - on both counts. I don't know how I feel about a mainline Star Wars without him. And, yeah, RotS OST really was something else.
LiquidSolid
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I liked it but it wasn't great. Everyone died at the end and yet I struggled to care. I don't even think it was because they weren't likeable, there was just no tension or danger in the entire film and then they all died. For something that should've been dark, it wasn't at all.
As for the CGI characters, I can understand why they did it with Leia, because she's so recognisable and we only see her for a few seconds. But CGI Tarkin made no sense. While I was watching it I thought they should've just cast Charles Dance in the role, he looks similar enough that I doubt anyone would care.
On the more positive side, I thought they did a good job of tying it into A New Hope and replicating the look of the original trilogy.
Also, I just watched the first couple of trailers again and I'm shocked at how much footage they didn't use.
As for the CGI characters, I can understand why they did it with Leia, because she's so recognisable and we only see her for a few seconds. But CGI Tarkin made no sense. While I was watching it I thought they should've just cast Charles Dance in the role, he looks similar enough that I doubt anyone would care.
On the more positive side, I thought they did a good job of tying it into A New Hope and replicating the look of the original trilogy.
Also, I just watched the first couple of trailers again and I'm shocked at how much footage they didn't use.
MisterAnderson
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Kind of a nit-picky thing since it was sort of a retcon of sorts so some "issues" are bound to come up like this, but the only thing I felt was a bit weird with Rogue One's transition to A New Hope at the end of the movie is that Vader and Leia's dialog on the Tantive IV at the beginning of Ep IV now feels a slight bit off to me after seeing the exact circumstances of her escape with the plans.
Princess Leia Organa: Darth Vader. Only you could be so bold. The Imperial Senate will not sit still for this. When they hear you've attacked a diplomatic...
Darth Vader: Don't act so surprised, Your Highness. You weren't on any mercy mission this time. Several transmissions were beamed to this ship by rebel spies. I want to know what happened to the plans they sent you.
Princess Leia Organa: I don't know what you're talking about. I am a member of the Imperial Senate on a diplomatic mission to Alderaan...
Darth Vader: You are part of the Rebel Alliance and a traitor! Take her away!
Leia acting coy here makes little sense since the Tantive obviously was fleeing a battle that the Rebels initiated...granted she could easily just be trolling him to be difficult. But like I said, this is a huge nit pick. I thought the movie was great.
Princess Leia Organa: Darth Vader. Only you could be so bold. The Imperial Senate will not sit still for this. When they hear you've attacked a diplomatic...
Darth Vader: Don't act so surprised, Your Highness. You weren't on any mercy mission this time. Several transmissions were beamed to this ship by rebel spies. I want to know what happened to the plans they sent you.
Princess Leia Organa: I don't know what you're talking about. I am a member of the Imperial Senate on a diplomatic mission to Alderaan...
Darth Vader: You are part of the Rebel Alliance and a traitor! Take her away!
Leia acting coy here makes little sense since the Tantive obviously was fleeing a battle that the Rebels initiated...granted she could easily just be trolling him to be difficult. But like I said, this is a huge nit pick. I thought the movie was great.
Scrooge McDuck
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Aa, got it. So you were actually praising the film there. I normally associate "eleventh hour" with negative connotation.
True. I honestly have no idea what he was trying to do. Can somebody with knowledge of the animated series clarify? Does Saw Gerrera talk like that in the shows? Because Forrest's speech in this was so stilted and awkward it almost has to be intentional.
MisterAnderson
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Also am I the only one who thinks Riz Ahmed stole the show as the defected Imperial pilot Bodhi Rook? He was the best character by far IMO (maybe besides K-2SO).
TheMagician
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In Rebels there are a few ships which look exactly the same as it.
Guess you could now look at it as her being like 'well it wasn't this one'.
Sanctuary
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Was this shot in the movie? I wanna say it wasn't but I'm not too sure.
Also, watching the trailers, it's insane how much footage they ended up not using. The movie came out amazing so it was probably for the best, though.
After seeing the film, I thought Saw was bald in the trailers, but then just assumed I was just misremembering him simply looking how Whitaker always looks. I also thought they missed out on some truly impressive scenes that didn't show up in the final cut (specifically the Krennic evaluation shot during the aftermath, which was incredible). Actually, a lot of the shots that are in the trailers, but not the film are the fucking shots that made me want to see the film in the first place.
Was that exact shot in the film though? I remember them moving into position, but I honestly don't remember that specific angle.
Agreed, but that's not necessarily saying much for this film. The score wasn't "bad", but it honestly really did just seem like rather weak remixes of the themes Williams already did.
I really liked him in Nightcrawler, The Night Of and just thought he was "okay" here unfortunately. I guess for the screen time allotted, he made the most of it. The character that did nothing at all for me, simply because it's yet another "blind Asian master" trope was Donnie Yen's not-Jedi-but-Jedi. With all of the "he steals the show" comments floating around, you'd think he actually does something to merit such remarks. He has like three really small scenes in which he "does something cool" and that's pretty much it.
MisterAnderson
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Pretty sure I remember the exact shot/angle.
TheMagician
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Did Vader block lasers and then return the fire?
Peter Ian Staker
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These ships are in everything Star Wars that includes the rebels.
That said there is no way the Imperial forces didn't get this ships identification marks.
Unless there was a pay-n-spray in hyperspace Vader was on to them and she knew it and put on the ambassador facade as a last ditch effort to negotiate(and maybe even stall for time while the droids were running away with the plans).
DorkLord54
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He did that in TESB too during the dinner scene.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxdLYWnSzpI&t=2m34s
Lando is only going to have sax when on screen.
Peter Ian Staker
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Maybe not a 100% exact but I am pretty sure there was a shot of the Death Star above Jedah where the laser dish is at the bottom.
In fact me and my friend specifically noticed it because we had never seen the Death Star from an angle where the dish is in the lower half.
I thought they did. It arrived through hyperspace on Scariff and immediately opened fire.We didnt saw the Deathstar coming out of the hyperspace, right?
Would be curious how this would look like. To bad they didnt showed it
I thought it looked wrong that the death star was now in a different angle all the time
God damn, I cant get enough of Vader.
Peter Ian Staker
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Me and my friend liked it. It added a layer of realism since the Death Star is like a planet and it should rotate.
Sanctuary
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LOL. I thought something was "off" with the design of his suit in Rogue One, and there was. But, I guess that actually makes it consistent within the franchise, because it seems to always be slightly different in some way, even in the initial three movies. Does he just have a drawer full of different colored LEDs and switches to accessorize himself on any given day? Because they keep changing colors. Not only that, but I just rewatched the duel in Episode IV, and his belt buckle and buttons switch sides, like he's in front of a mirror!
Or maybe his suit is just an iborg, and in Episode V he's using the iborg 8 panel.
Oh god, why? That is super weird, and super detrimental to any movie that isn't specifically designed to have such a break.
I get it if the movie's 3 hours or longer, but RO clocks in at just over 2 hours.
We didnt saw the Deathstar coming out of the hyperspace, right?
Would be curious how this would look like. To bad they didnt showed it
*woosh* Death Star.
TheMagician
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I thought he just blocked it.
There are actually a couple of years between the events of R1/ANH and ESB, so they upgraded it inbetween.
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