Walking out of it I felt like I could have lived without Rogue One being a movie to begin with but I enjoyed some of it, mainly that last 3rd.
Wouldn't be suprised if the others like it have me feeling the same way.
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Walking out of it I felt like I could have lived without Rogue One being a movie to begin with but I enjoyed some of it, mainly that last 3rd.
Wouldn't be suprised if the others like it have me feeling the same way.
Why would it? Star Wars is a versatile franchise. It can have a hard war story like this, an epic myth like ANH, and a wacky comedic adventure like Han's will certainly be.
demosthenes
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You're crazy.
Just got out, LOVED IT. Whole theatre cheered at the end. On phone, will post more thoughts later.
Lucas liked Rogue One.
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Beat EviLore at pool.
Not feeling it already. Might just stick with the main series instead of the spinoffs. Have a feeling in a few months everyone will look at this movie in a different way.
Bobby Roberts
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Gareth Edwards a better Lucas-esque movie than Lucas himself attempted circa 1999-2005
BFIB
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I am all for new characters, or returning characters looking how they did Tarkin and Leia. Another character playing Han and Lando just does not sit right with me. Those characters should stay true to their original actors. There are so many stories to tell that you shouldn't need to go back and recast those roles.
I will probably still feel it's the second best Star wars film. I guess we will see!
Its going to be super strange watching through the movies in chronological order and having a character like Tarkin or Leia being perfect replicas (I thought the CGI was great, come at me) of their OT likenesses but Han Solo, a character I so thoroughly associate with Harrison Ford, changing drastically relatively quickly.
Rogue One isn't a story that needed to be told, but it at least gave more depth to the story and gave us a whole new set of characters. We know enough about Han I think, its not really necessary for the movie to exist.
I think it'll be entertaining, though, and I guess that is all that matters in the end.
All for it now. Disney definitely knows what it's doing. Rogue One made me feel better about TFA playing safe and being ANH redux since it shows that they are willing to go different and more brutal with Star Wars, in the standalones at least.
Hold on, was it actually Mustafar?
lol you fucking lost me when you suggested Mrs. Enso shooting her husband.
Flying0Dutchman
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with all the tarkin talk online, you'd think people would have forgotten he cameos in ROTS...
no cg too, make up on an actor! I guess with all the prequel/cg hate this gets left out heh
and when lit properly
no cg too, make up on an actor! I guess with all the prequel/cg hate this gets left out heh
and when lit properly
That shot looks really, really cool.
But I don't see how that would've made any sort of sense for the road of events to lead up to it, and how it would've been concluded. I guess if the AT-ACTs were in front of them as more Shore/Stormtroopers come from behind? ¯\_(ツ
_/¯ I know I'm not creative enough to come up with anything but it strikes me as nonsensical.Yeah he looks cool but I found he seemed to mumble a lot of his lines. Apparently he started doing a posh English accent but Edwards told him just to use his own Aussie accent... but it seems like half the time he's caught in the middle, and honestly he sounds like he has something in his mouth that detracts from what he's saying.
Yep, Pablo Hidalgo confirmed it and it's on the visual guide.
It was pretty obvious to my audience. I heard people going "It's where Anakin fought Obi Wan!!!"
I Don't get why it didn't get a "MUSTAFAR: Imperial Mineral Refinery or something" card while most of the other planets did, probably because they did it just for the planets the main characters traveled to?
The Death Star didn't get a title either
with all the tarkin talk online, you'd think people would have forgotten he cameos in ROTS...
no cg too, make up on an actor! I guess with all the prequel/cg hate this gets left out heh
and when lit properly
I remember, and I still don't like it at all. He looks like a vampire or something here. He was only on screen for a few seconds in ep III, which I'm glad for.
I was a bit iffy on CGI Tarkin, but I totally prefer that over this.
That shot looks really, really cool.
But I don't see how that would've made any sort of sense for the road of events to lead up to it, and how it would've been concluded. I guess if the AT-ACTs were in front of them as more Shore/Stormtroopers come from behind? ¯\_(ツ
Well based on the Battlefront shenanigans, my guess was they were originally gonna get on a U-Wing that would then fly them all the way to the top of the tower due to some elevator lockdown.
But we'll never know
Haloid1177
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The hate for the Vader one liner is so silly to me, he did that kind of shit all throughout the OT.
Not to mention he's practically a walking joke-bot in the comics.
"Apology accepted, Captain Needa."
Flying0Dutchman
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BrokenFiction
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Anakin was always a sarcastic bastard.
StopMakingSense
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Yep.
Right?
It's always weird seeing that disconnect as it nailed it with my audience, but then I see the extreme online. I'm willing to bet it's also all those people who hated it, love ESB and probably forgot his silly-ass lines in that, too.
*Bespin Betrayal* "We would be honored if you joined us."
Mah man.
I think it's a good starting point for the spinoffs, but it doesn't really change my feelings on a Han Solo standalone film because the team working on it is enough to inspire confidence.
That is to say, for all the people caught up on how much a Han Solo film "doesn't need to happen" or that it's something nobody wants, just remember that:
a) Kasdan really wanted to do it
b) Miller and Lord have proven themselves on numerous occasions to be more than capable of taking properties/concepts that people have given the "doesn't need to happen" or "nobody wants this" excuse to and have made great movies with them.
Flying0Dutchman
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Wont Han's adventures take place during the PT era? I wonder if theyll just skirt it by having it take place on a previously un-named planet far far from the conflicts in the PT.
Boogie9IGN
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Saw it last night and had a huge smile on my face all day, absolutely loved it
Yeah that Vader line was the only thing I kinda rolled my eyes at but it didn't ruin anything, the rest of the movie was just too great.
Was expecting them to not show Tarkin's face at first but the CG didn't bother me one bit
The last bit with Vader was some of the most nerve-racking action I've seen, actually felt like yelling GET THE DISC OUT MAN HURRY HES COMING even though you know exactly what's going to happen hahaha
The space battle left my friend and I feeling like kids from how awesome it was
So glad they didn't pussy out of killing everyone too
Edit: Liked some of the easter eggs, like hearing General Syndulla's name over the PA system on Yavin 4
Can't wait to go again on Monday!
Yeah that Vader line was the only thing I kinda rolled my eyes at but it didn't ruin anything, the rest of the movie was just too great.
Was expecting them to not show Tarkin's face at first but the CG didn't bother me one bit
The last bit with Vader was some of the most nerve-racking action I've seen, actually felt like yelling GET THE DISC OUT MAN HURRY HES COMING even though you know exactly what's going to happen hahaha
The space battle left my friend and I feeling like kids from how awesome it was
So glad they didn't pussy out of killing everyone too
Edit: Liked some of the easter eggs, like hearing General Syndulla's name over the PA system on Yavin 4
Can't wait to go again on Monday!
Han was a kid during The Clone Wars, in his teens he's probably going to be in a Rebels-esque era.
A mix of both styles favoring the OT style
No, it will be during the Dark Times, probably around 10 years before ANH, roughly halfway between III and IV.
Didn't even notice Tarkin was CGI, not that I was playing close attention. Leia though was freaking obvious. But it wasn't disastrous as it was only shown for a bit.
The theater clapped at the end. From my experience, that rarely happens, even with the big Marvel and DC movies .
The theater clapped at the end. From my experience, that rarely happens, even with the big Marvel and DC movies .
They'd only be in the Clone Wars era if he were a child. Even though they've never pinned down when he was born, what is still canon still has him being no more than ten when the Empire took hold.
Flying0Dutchman
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ah right thats true, for some reason I assumed we'd see Han in different stages in his life not just near <ANH time. It sort of awkward isn't it though for Leia and Tarkin its cg likeness but for Han its straight up recast (without any attempt to make it look like Ford im assuming)
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Just came home from seeing it and I loved it. Great battles and loved they way they made the space battles mimic the stop motion movements instead of making it too CG. I didn't know anything about CGI Tarkin going in and although it was a little too uncanny valley for me still my wife didn't even realize it was CG so guess they did a good enough job. She could tell Leia was CG but that's because she probably didn't even remember Tarkin from the originals despite seeing them a few times.
It doesn't really look like it's any distinct planet from that one shot. For it to be pinned down as Jedha, there'd probably need to at least be some sign of the few landmarks we saw from it.
I kind of hope so. Rogue One is good, but The Force Awakens is operating on a higher level overall. This backlash is just uncanny.
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TheDinoman
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I don't really have any plans on seeing this film, so I don't mind being spoiled. Just wanna know...what exactly is Vader's big one liner people seem to be talking about here?
He Force chokes Krennic and says "Be careful not to choke on your aspirations."
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I went in with pretty tempered expectations, but I ended up liking this much more than I expected. My main critiques are centered on the climax, which relied way too heavily on drama around pressing buttons, flipping levers and connecting cables. Once is fine, but this did it like, four times. This came to a head with Donne Yen and his friend's death, which was about flipping a lever, and then the heavy having a very cliche death scene. Same kind of one we got in Magnificent Seven remake. I get that it's a trope, but it didn't work for me at all.
Other than that though, it was mostly excellent. The first act is a bit too rushed and hops across too many locations (four, five planets in ~15 minutes?). But it finds its footing after a half hour or so. Great performances all around, and the direction was superb. Edwards did a great job balancing the chaos of war with keeping the players and logistics involved clear. Lots of establishing shots, and he keeps cutting from people in cockpits or command chairs out to where they are positioned in the battle, so it didn't degenerate into talking heads in chaos. We knew who was where, when and why.
I need to revisit Jedi. But right now I think we just got the best staged space battle in the series to date. I didn't expect that, at all.
I also liked how they showed the differences and similarities in the bureaucracy of the Rebels and the Empire. How the Rebel's adherence to process - and paralysis - has strong echoes to the Republic they are the remnants of. The Empire cut through that by having fear run down the ranks, from the Emperor to Vader to Tarkin to Krennic to Galen Erso. Really good stuff.
Favorite tidbit: once the crew had stolen the Imperial shuttle and they are away into space, one of them lies back on the entrance ramp to rest. It was a nice little detail that shows this was made by people who really thought about how the designs in Star Wars would play out. The film was packed with little details like that.
Other than that though, it was mostly excellent. The first act is a bit too rushed and hops across too many locations (four, five planets in ~15 minutes?). But it finds its footing after a half hour or so. Great performances all around, and the direction was superb. Edwards did a great job balancing the chaos of war with keeping the players and logistics involved clear. Lots of establishing shots, and he keeps cutting from people in cockpits or command chairs out to where they are positioned in the battle, so it didn't degenerate into talking heads in chaos. We knew who was where, when and why.
I need to revisit Jedi. But right now I think we just got the best staged space battle in the series to date. I didn't expect that, at all.
I also liked how they showed the differences and similarities in the bureaucracy of the Rebels and the Empire. How the Rebel's adherence to process - and paralysis - has strong echoes to the Republic they are the remnants of. The Empire cut through that by having fear run down the ranks, from the Emperor to Vader to Tarkin to Krennic to Galen Erso. Really good stuff.
Favorite tidbit: once the crew had stolen the Imperial shuttle and they are away into space, one of them lies back on the entrance ramp to rest. It was a nice little detail that shows this was made by people who really thought about how the designs in Star Wars would play out. The film was packed with little details like that.
Just saw it... Fucking amazing. Many Bothans died, indeed.
So many Easter eggs! Red 5, Captain Syndulla, Ponda Baba, Captain Antilles, referencing Obi-Wan, the mouse droid!
That ending! Holy shit, now we know how that first victory against the empire went, how the plans got into Leia's hands. The gritty cost to buck the trend of the empire, God damn.
My girlfriend didn't even realize Tarkin was CGI.
Oh man, that was such a great movie. Erso's reason for working on the project was great.
And it's fucking GREAT to see a Star Wars movie not starring Jedi. I really hope that trend continues.
So many Easter eggs! Red 5, Captain Syndulla, Ponda Baba, Captain Antilles, referencing Obi-Wan, the mouse droid!
That ending! Holy shit, now we know how that first victory against the empire went, how the plans got into Leia's hands. The gritty cost to buck the trend of the empire, God damn.
My girlfriend didn't even realize Tarkin was CGI.
Oh man, that was such a great movie. Erso's reason for working on the project was great.
And it's fucking GREAT to see a Star Wars movie not starring Jedi. I really hope that trend continues.
Bobby Roberts
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I've seen this come up a couple times in this thread, and it's weird to me.
Why would your ability to invest in a character depend on their appearance in a hypothetical sequel?
"Well, they're going to die in the end, so like, why should I give a shit."
Because everybody fucking dies. It's what they do while they're alive that counts. That's a basic rule of drama, and like, life in general.
"Gramma was pretty awesome, but it was hard to give a shit past the dish full of lemon drops she used to keep out on the coffee table because I knew she wasn't gonna die before the sequel."
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