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Rogue One: A Star Wars Story |OT| They rebel - SPOILERS
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brandonh83
Banned
Anyone recall if Leia's theme played when it showed her? I was too busy cringing at the CG I guess.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
It didn't. The film's finale is on the Soundtrack as "Hope," and it's not in there.
This was a surprisingly emotional film, and that was a great scene. That and several others were superbly acted; it really made her arc resonate. Rogue hit different emotional beats than TFA - which succeeded in being what it wanted to be, IMO - and landed them.
brandonh83
Banned
See for me had they just kept it at that wide shot with her facing away from the camera with her theme injected in there it'd have been absolutely perfect. Like I can't imagine why it wasn't like that or even a wide shot with her facing us but from further in the background ala Tarkin in ROTS. I guess they just wanted the fans to squeal in delight seeing a shitty CGI Carrie Fisher face.
They sure as shit did at my screening and I'm just like why
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Nah, to each their reach. If it works better for you to go in w/ no concept of the music before it hits your ears in context - do that!
Pagusas
Elden Member
That was... really bad.
Hated the music, it was like a b-grade knock off of Star Wars music
That CG Tarkin got laughs from the theater, how the hell did that make it into the final movie. It was legitly horrible.
Vader giving a one liner.... horrible
Vader filmed in the worst lighting possible...horrible
Lava planet castle... seriously? Horrible
Pretty much the whole script: wtf horrible
Leia being actually onboard the cruiser that was in that battle. WTF. It would have made sense for her to be nearby, but not literally in the battle.
Most of the acting was b-grade shit as well, i blame this on the horribly written lines they were forced to say though.
Hated the music, it was like a b-grade knock off of Star Wars music
That CG Tarkin got laughs from the theater, how the hell did that make it into the final movie. It was legitly horrible.
Vader giving a one liner.... horrible
Vader filmed in the worst lighting possible...horrible
Lava planet castle... seriously? Horrible
Pretty much the whole script: wtf horrible
Leia being actually onboard the cruiser that was in that battle. WTF. It would have made sense for her to be nearby, but not literally in the battle.
Most of the acting was b-grade shit as well, i blame this on the horribly written lines they were forced to say though.
brianjones
Member
such a waste of good actors.. i felt embarrassed for them
brandonh83
Banned
I'll be positive for a bit if that's okay.
I thought Vader was great. I liked his one liners a lot. They were typical Vader as he shot those around like wildfire in the OT. His attack on the soldiers was scary and intense. The voice, while I agree with it sounding a bit off, was mostly fine.
Nah of all the problems I had Vader absolutely wasn't one of them. And as a fan of Mustafar and the original concept art of him in that lava cave lair thing, well I liked that too. If anything it makes just being on the Death Star again in ROTJ instead of at that castle even worse lol
I thought Vader was great. I liked his one liners a lot. They were typical Vader as he shot those around like wildfire in the OT. His attack on the soldiers was scary and intense. The voice, while I agree with it sounding a bit off, was mostly fine.
Nah of all the problems I had Vader absolutely wasn't one of them. And as a fan of Mustafar and the original concept art of him in that lava cave lair thing, well I liked that too. If anything it makes just being on the Death Star again in ROTJ instead of at that castle even worse lol
Bobby Roberts
Banned
b-grade horrible
horrible b-grade
b-grade b-grade
horrible b-grade
The grade?
B
B = Horrible.
I love these takes where people are bringing hot fire as such.
"THE LIGHTING. HORRIBLE. PRETTY MUCH THE WHOLE SCRIPT. B-GRADE"
Dude what.
horrible b-grade
b-grade b-grade
horrible b-grade
The grade?
B
B = Horrible.
I love these takes where people are bringing hot fire as such.
"THE LIGHTING. HORRIBLE. PRETTY MUCH THE WHOLE SCRIPT. B-GRADE"
Dude what.
Not the Bs!
brandonh83
Banned
A bunch of nerds talking about a new Star Wars movie in an off topic section of a gaming forum. It's gonna be sketchy.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
BattleMonkey
Member
That shot looks really, really cool.
But I don't see how that would've made any sort of sense for the road of events to lead up to it, and how it would've been concluded. I guess if the AT-ACTs were in front of them as more Shore/Stormtroopers come from behind? ¯\_(ツ_/¯ I know I'm not creative enough to come up with anything but it strikes me as nonsensical.
It seems the entire finale was played out differently. The whole rebel fleet thing and space battle were likely not in the original version of the film, the plans had to be ran across the field (same as in the Battlefront scenario for Rogue One), where a ship is waiting to extract the plans off the planet.
It's clear the finale was not to take place on that tower, there is lot of footage and pics of the data being carried out of the base and being on the beach, with Krennic even being on the beach and fighting in the water too. The whole structure of the finale feels like it was altered since you could literally just erase any scene where characters on Scariff mention the "fleet battle" above them, and you notice that the two battles have really nothing to do with each other. The whole shield gate aspect for all we know was added in later to create a convenient way to add a whole space battle to the finale while only needing to alter some of the ground scenes to fit the new finale
Metalingus5150
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What happened to
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THE POWAH
Master Yoshi
Member
Loved the movie, but CG Tarkin was really off-putting. Looked like a stop motion wax mannequin of the actor, or maybe I'm being hyperbolic.
Didn't mind CG Carrie Fischer.
Were 3PO and R2 supposed to be aboard the Tantive IV?
Didn't mind CG Carrie Fischer.
Were 3PO and R2 supposed to be aboard the Tantive IV?
Cool.
One of these days, I'll take a class in, ya know, music comprehension. Something that'll help me be able to talk about it a little bit more intelligently or appreciate it more.
I wouldn't be. They got to be in an awesome Star Wars movie.
Even though I would've liked to have seen more of Whitaker, but I already aired that out in my review post.
Only the best use of spare time.
There's always that one guy with his arms crossed and a frown in every movie crowd. I wonder if they all post on GAF.
Pagusas
Elden Member
If you mean of the Dearh Star they mentioned several times they were only firing with a very small portion of its power
brandonh83
Banned
He's talking about the line from Krennic in the trailer which was fortunately cut.
^^to be fair the focus wasn't on the aerial battle in TFA, it was centered on the character stuff within the base, the Xwing attack was basically just to puncture and destroy the base which the characters enabled inside Starkiller, leading to Han's death and the ensuing saber duel which is what made it feel a lot different to ANH's climax which WAS focused on that
Bobby Roberts
Banned
They may not all post at GAF, but I guarantee they all came at a theater where EVERYONE laughed at EVERYTHING BAD and EVERYONE JEERED at EVERYTHING THEY DIDN'T LIKE because these people never just feel things by themselves, they always feel things and then IMMEDIATELY have those feelings vociferously reinforced by an entire crowd full of total strangers just in case you were thinking of challenging their malformed, empty opinions, because how could you possibly even THINK of refuting their insight if you ALREADY KNOW that their WHOLE THEATER broke out in laughter at how stupid the stupid thing was.
You know that after Episode IX is done and Thrawn has been properly re-inserted into canon, they are going to shoehorn the plot of the Zahn trilogy as best as they can into the new canon using CGI for the leads once the technology progresses further. All of Lucas' dreams come true.
Cut scene. The setting made it look like it was on the Death Star, but knowing the way the movie plays out I can't imagine why it would have been necessary, at least not with Krennic talking like that to Vader after his choking. I thought at first that maybe the Mustafar scene replaced it, but the art book confirms that the Mustafar scene was in as far back as Whitta's initial draft. Maybe Vader was on the Death Star initially earlier in the film? Or maybe it was actually in the base on Scarif or something?
The space battle had to be in it, because the ANH crawl mentions it.
Edit: I expected another post after my other one by the time this post was done. You've failed me Star Wars nerds.
Scrooge McDuck
Member
Vader makes quite a substantial quips in the original trilogy, too.
brandonh83
Banned
Yeah I thought it was perfect and darkly funny without actually being funny, like his lines in the OT.
Pagusas
Elden Member
What are you talking about, b grade is a legit term for low production. You can't tell me you liked heavily lit, super flat Vader. Nor would I believe anyone actually thinks a evil villain lava planet castle is anything other than eye roll worthy.
The last act was fun but had a ton of issues that everyone else has already pointed out.
Probably. Imagine if in ANH he had said "Don't FORCE me to change your mind!" or something to Motti.
Vincent Alexander
Member
I might have gotten there...but the dad's message was drawn out way too long, and we spent way too long zooming in slowly on her crying face. I don't like sad scenes where they're too obvious about what emotion I'm supposed to be feeling. Add the generic sad music they queued up and I was out.
Yes. For me, anway. The pun made me shuffle in my seat. Thinking back on the film, I would have gone bananas and cheered if the first time we were introduced to Vader was the hallway scene. Have Tarkin summon him as we heard in the film, then when we get to that scene and the saber kicks in...bam. I would've loved the already great scene even more. But I'm sure most would be pissed to have so little screentime for Vader.
brandonh83
Banned
I didn't think his line here was THAT bad lol
But I guess I can see a case being made for it. The execution was good though.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
I'm talking about the fact you very obviously have no real idea what in the fuck you're talking about.
Stop fronting.
That's my perception. My justification for it is that he just is taking the piss out of Krennic. Like, other people are worthy of scorn when they fail, but he just flat out doesn't respect Krennic, so he's making his threat more painful than mere choking by throwing out that painful joke. I mean, it's one thing to be killed, it's another to be killed while the person makes a pathetically lame pun at your expense. Imagine that being the last thing you hear. *shudder*
BTW, good to see you back, Bobby.
brianjones
Member
nobody knows more than you.. you make sure of that with every post
EYEL1NER
Member
I don't know, maybe it was because I was already put off by his voice that the line got to me.
I'm looking forward to it, in Lord and Miller I trust. Rogue One at least shows theyre willing to expand and take risks with the property. However if I see C3PO and R2D2 I'm going to throw a fit.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
I've admitted to being way wrong about a bunch of shit in the short time I've been back here, Brian.
Stay whining.
You seem to have a problem with people holding a different opinion than you about movies. Why do you take it personally? Not everyone is gonna like Rogue One. Why be a dick about it?
lol True, but the same message gets across in a sorta dark humory kinda way though, right?
He calls him out for buying into "that ancient religion" then Darth Vader quickly erases doubt in the non-believer, so-to-speak.
"I find your lack of faith disturbing." is, to me at least, hilarious. It's inherently funny.
So when people didn't like the pun he makes here, or at least think that it's out of place for him to make a joke like that, it makes me wonder. Maybe because it was a pun it was too on the nose? I don't know.
Shit made me laugh that's all I know.
brandonh83
Banned
I think he's just having a conversation and agreeing/disagreeing like the rest of us
Some are just outspoken! I've been downright negative on this movie since I've seen it, but I keep coming back to see why others are liking it so much. And I still mostly disagree with the praise. At least after listening to the soundtrack I've warmed up to THAT, so that's something.
jimmypython
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Rouge One has a similar problem FFXV had.
You have to "earn" the emotional investment from the viewers with good character development.
But the movie redeemed itself by the entire ending sequence: it was SO GOOD.
They should've had guardian of the galaxy director direct the movie - he knows how to make a team of people memorable.
You have to "earn" the emotional investment from the viewers with good character development.
But the movie redeemed itself by the entire ending sequence: it was SO GOOD.
They should've had guardian of the galaxy director direct the movie - he knows how to make a team of people memorable.
Vincent Alexander
Member
I can mostly agree here. The framing in particular I loved the hell out of, especially with Vader keeping his back to him as he choked him. It lost me RIGHT at the end. Something about Vader's helmet looked...off in that scene. And when he turned to the right and lifted his head up to deliver that line, it made the helmet stand out even more. It looked too long at the neck and really bugged me.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
I don't have a problem with people having a different opinion at all. There's tons of examples up in here of me not having problems. Hell, it's pretty easy to discern as such mostly because the wide array of opinions opposite of mine don't even go addressed!
I do however, respond to dumb shit when it's coughed up. That was (legitly) dumb shit.
It's not PERSONAL.
The Bookerman
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TAJ
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
The ship CGI looks eerily like the original models. If you showed me stills I'd believe they actually used them.
That's the only positive thing I have to say about this movie.
And I actually ended up enjoying Ghostbusters 2016.* This has been a weird year.
* I'm only thinking about this because Bobby Roberts is here.
brandonh83
Banned
I didn't really notice, so I suppose ignorance is bliss. Vader seemed great to me in this movie, like Edwards was like oh god can't fuck Vader up, if I fuck everything else up whatever but I gotta do Vader justice.
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