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[Toa TAK]

Rogue One: A Star Wars Pun Story

 

[AntraxSuicide]

I think everybody gets that it's a callback, it's just that the line itself is laughably shitty and horribly presented.

A lot of the dialogue in those movies consists of either simple declarations or high school level 'poetry'.

I disagree that that line is in the same ballpark as the corny lines.

 

[GAMEPROFF]

Rogue One: A Star Wars Pun Story

Lets talk about the CGI

 

[Toa TAK]

Lets talk about the CGI

This thread is a viscous cycle.

And the soundtrack.

I'm ok with this.

 

[Sanjuro]

Lets talk about the CGI

And the soundtrack.

 

[AntraxSuicide]

This thread is a viscous cycle.

Time is a flat circle.

 

[brandonh83]

I always liked you Brandon but no more.

tbh it doesn't matter what the lists are, someone's gonna disagree

The Force Awakens was worse from a narrative standpoint.

I'm not bored shitless by the first 2/3 of TFA.

 

[Killer Queen]

And the lack of character motivations and exposition

 

[Bobby Roberts]

Rogue One: A Star Wars Pun Story

How do you fuck this up, Toa?

Rogue PUN, man.

It's right there.

edit: Oh shit, I'm infected now, aren't I. The dad jokes are coming from inside the house.

 

[Toa TAK]

How do you fuck this up, Toa?

Rogue PUN, man.

It's right there.

edit: Oh shit, I'm infected now, aren't I. The dad jokes are coming from inside the house.

You know I don't even like puns anyways!

All you pun lovers either were on the high school newspaper, or have never been assaulted with puns everyday on the high school newspaper.

 

[GAMEPROFF]

This thread is a viscous cycle.

You mean its like poetry?

 

[Jibbed]

Seeing as everyone else is doing it...

Disclaimer: I was brought up on the prequels.

Empire Strikes Back
A New Hope
Rogue One
The Force Awakens
Rebels (series)
The Clone Wars (series)
Revenge of the Sith
Return of the Jedi
The Phantom Menace
Attack of the Clones
Clone Wars (film)

I can't quite put my finger on what I don't like about Jedi but yeah. Opinions.

 

[Randam]

Again I was way to tiered for this.
Have to stop watching movies in the cinema.

Anyways, wasn't bad. Not special either.
Didn't really like the Rouge One group.

BTW why didn't Mad Michelsen send the Death Star plans with his message?

 

[BronsonLee]

I always liked you Brandon but no more.

Me liking Rogue and him hating it is the ultimate swerve

 

[Jazzem]

Have another list then:

Empire Strikes Back
The Force Awakens tied with A New Hope
Return of the Jedi
Rogue One
Revenge of the Sith
Phantom Menace
Attack of the Clones

 

[PeskyToaster]

I would have rated ANH lower before but then I watched it in theaters and it's fun as fuck. Hits all the right notes and fires on all cylinders.

My tiered ranking would be

Best: - Don't have anything to say. These are legendary movies.
ESB
ANH

Great: - Both the recent movies go here because they were really fun to watch but we need to sit on them for a little bit. You need the cultural impact to hit the top tier.
RO - Need to rewatch but I really enjoyed it. My man Darth Vader redeemed. Also a great way to show the flexibility of the series on screen. In the past this has always been the domain of the EU but fuck the EU, movies are cooler.
TFA - I love how it artfully paralleled the OT while having significant character arcs diverge. I think it will be hard to judge without the rest of the trilogy. I need to see how certain decisions play out. Still, a great return to form for the series.

Good: - This tier is elevated because I love Ian McDiarmid as the Emperor.
ROTJ - Hard to place because it has some of the best moments with some prequel tier ones. Best space battle, amazing climatic confrontation in the throne room....ewoks.
ROTS - This is basically the climax of all the missteps in the previous movies beginning in TPM where we met Anakin as a kid instead of an already troubled adult/teen jedi apprentice guy. Has some of the most quotable lines though. While ROTJ is mostly good with some bad, ROTS is kind of the inverse. Both sides of the same tier-coin or whatever.

Sigh:
TPM - This movie started the prequels off on the wrong foot and they never recovered. Podracing is cool but it took up so much of the movie and feels kind of out of place. Killing Maul was a mistake too, they needed a consistent villain.

Sandy:
AOTC - Ugh. Obi-Wan was cool.

 

[ThoseDeafMutes]

You still haven't said why it's out of character. You can argue that you don't like it but it's definitely not out of character which was your original argument

Because none of Vader's "jokes" were particularly silly, nor were they puns. That would be in character for Leslie Nielsen character or Mr Freeze, but not Darth Vader. You don't see any meaningful distinction between a pun and any other form of joke, and you don't consider this to be a silly instance of a joke, ergo the disagreement.

 

[Kalentan]

Ah, should've added in the animated series, but I'll just say that the finale of Rebels s2 has one of the greatest SW moments. Clone Wars was fantastic in its own right, but to see that era topped off and concluded like that... Incredible stuff.

While the prequels still happened as they did. The Clone Wars show really enhances ROTS for me. Though Anakins turn to suddenly being okay with killing children is still baffling, the show is great in giving Anakin darker moments that seem to become more violent with time and it makes you understand a bit more as to why he fell to the dark side. For me, that is just one of the best aspects of TCW. Not to mention the amazing Clone arc episodes.

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

The one thing that really broke immersion for me was when

Spoiler

Vader

made a fucking pun.

Movie was OK overall, last act was great.

 

[brandonh83]

Me liking Rogue and him hating it is the ultimate swerve

I don't hate it. Mainly just the characters dragged it through the mud for me.

 

[Timu]

Honestly not bad lists, but you really didn't like Return of the Jedi. It was my least favorite when only three Star Wars films existed, but all of the prequels were worse, Rogue One was worse and The Force Awakens was worse from a narrative standpoint. Also, even though I think The Empire Strikes Back is the best, I still find Star Wars to be more entertaining overall. But I've always been a sucker for origin stories I guess.

This is all true.

 

[DorkLord54]

And the soundtrack.

I don't know why, but I find the Imperial Suite both hummable, but also greatly despise it because it's basically the same theme Giacchino wrote for the military in Super 8 and Fisk's mercenaries in Jurassic World.

 

[Toa TAK]

I bet the La La Land thread doesn't have to deal with this.

 

[Haloid1177]

I'm not bored shitless by the first 2/3 of TFA.

I think everything from when they escape Jakku to Rey getting captured is infinitely more boring than anything in Rogue One. The nostalgia of seeing Han and Chewie hide that initially but subsequent viewings make it worse and worse. Meanwhile in Rogue One I'm on board as soon as Jyn gets broken out of the Turbo Tank.

 

[Sanctuary]

I watched it like 3 hours ago. It's entirely in character.

It kind of is, but the actual dialogue is what's wrong. It was written for the audience of 2016, not the story.

 

[Jibbed]

The only stand-out theme IMO was Krennic's.

The rest weren't bad, just seemed like extra tracks you might find on an OT B-side or something.

 

[cyberheater]

I watched it like 3 hours ago. It's entirely in character.

Yes it is.

It really isn't.

Wrong.

 

[brandonh83]

I think everything from when they escape Jakku to Rey getting captured is infinitely more boring than anything in Rogue One. The nostalgia of seeing Han and Chewie hide that initially but subsequent viewings make it worse and worse. Meanwhile in Rogue One I'm on board as soon as Jyn gets broken out of the Turbo Tank.

I don't have a problem with that stretch of the film and the First Order attack on Takodana was boss.

 

[Canadian]

I really enjoyed the movie. I thought it was well paced and then towards the end it really picked up with the long battle on ground and space. It was awesome. It was a movie all about the rebels and I really enjoyed that.

There were some scenes the felt out of place maybe? Like the crying child, it felt forced (pun not intended). Also the way Jyn and Cassian go out to die like it was some romance movie when they sit on a beach felt really cheesy.

I do think I prefer episode 7 more because of the characters. R1 had great battle scenes but I cared more about Rey, Finn, BB8 and Han than the cast of R1.

 

[Volimar]

Yeah, that one's a bit out of place, too, but it's just your typical Mary Sue thing of taking the name from the author.

OH MY GOD, GEORGE LUCAS

 

[Surfinn]

Yes it is.



Wrong.

Wonder how people would feel about this line if it originally existed in the OT.

 

[Killer Queen]

Because none of Vader's "jokes" were particularly silly, nor were they puns. That would be in character for Leslie Nielsen character or Mr Freeze, but not Darth Vader. You don't see any meaningful distinction between a pun and any other form of joke, and you don't consider this to be a silly instance of a joke, ergo the disagreement.

At the end of the day, he's making a joke to entertain himself with dark humor while intimidating an underling. The nature of the joke is unimportant because it achieves the same goal and the goal listed above are well within the boundaries of the character.

It kind of is, but the actual dialogue is what's wrong. It was written for the audience of 2016, not the story.

Now we're moving goal posts.
I don't see anyone seriously arguing that Star Wars tech is out dated. So why should it's writing or humor change?

 

[GAMEPROFF]

The only thing I remember from the OST is that one piece that start building up like the classic star wars theme but then stops and is something different that I also cant remember.

Wonder how people would feel about this line if it originally existed in the OT.

They would love it and it would be im the Soundboard app right next to Lack of faith.

 

[Jibbed]

Also, re: the Vader line. I think everyone's forgetting his demeanour in Empire.

 

[BronsonLee]

I don't hate it. Mainly just the characters dragged it through the mud for me.

YOU'RE THE MUD

I bet the La La Land thread doesn't have to deal with this.

Can't stop dancin tho

 

[Haloid1177]

I don't have a problem with that stretch of the film and the First Order attack on Takodana was boss.

The X-Wing arrival was great but it being better than the actual big X-Wing assault scene should have been a concern for the writers.

 

[PeskyToaster]

Because none of Vader's "jokes" were particularly silly, nor were they puns. That would be in character for Leslie Nielsen character or Mr Freeze, but not Darth Vader. You don't see any meaningful distinction between a pun and any other form of joke, and you don't consider this to be a silly instance of a joke, ergo the disagreement.

Yeah Darth Vader never made puns. He had what you could call, drop the mic moments like "Apology accepted Captain Needa" but not puns.

 

[Aselith]

I hope they will release that fight on the beach wit Jyn and Cassian as an extra on the bluray. I'd assume that it also included that cool ass shot of Krennic walking through the water from the trailer too. Maybe it's a terrible scene but I still wanna see it and it seemed like they had a lot of the VFX already finished for it.

Yeah Darth Vader never made puns. He had what you could call, drop the mic moments like "Apology accepted Captain Needa" but not puns.

That wasn't a joke though. He was threatening to kill Krennic and showing him that he could if he wanted. That's in character as fuck for Darth Vader. Seems about the same as "I find your lack of faith disturbing" to me.

 

[Surfinn]

I hope they will release that fight on the beach wit Jyn and Cassian as an extra on the bluray. I'd assume that it also included that cool ass shot of Krennic walking through the water from the trailer too. Maybe it's a terrible scene but I still wanna see it and it seemed like they had a lot of the VFX already finished for it.

Damn I forgot about the Krennik beach shot. That looked incredible.

 

[brandonh83]

The X-Wing arrival was great but it being better than the actual big X-Wing assault scene should have been a concern for the writers.

I don't think so as the X-Wing assault on Starkiller was a backdrop item, and just imagine the "IT'S LIKE ANH" complaints if there was some big 5-10 minute one as opposed to it just simply showing them flying in there and attacking the core. The mid-film assault was better because it focused on that for just a bit. The climax, unlike ANH, was the lightsaber duel.

 

[TheGrue]

I went to the movie assuming they would all die, but not sure if that's because of something that was said in A New Hope or if I just made it up and it happened to come true.

 

[DorkLord54]

The only stand-out theme IMO was Krennic's.

The rest weren't bad, just seemed like extra tracks you might find on an OT B-side or something.

I mean, it's the only theme you can really pick out and give to a character in the film itself, as it plays as soon as he's introduced, and plays almost every time he's on screen.

 

[BronsonLee]

I hope they will release that fight on the beach wit Jyn and Cassian as an extra on the bluray. I'd assume that it also included that cool ass shot of Krennic walking through the water from the trailer too. Maybe it's a terrible scene but I still wanna see it and it seemed like they had a lot of the VFX already finished for it.

It's the alt ending where they all fail to get the plans but they stay alive

Krennic captures them, fixes Chirrut's eyes, and Galen surprises Jyn with a birthday cake and him still being alive I guess

 

[Toa TAK]

We've hit 120 pages now. I think we've covered everything. All that's left is shipping.

EDIT: Oops, 121.

 

[Sanjuro]

Also, re: the Vader line. I think everyone's forgetting his demeanour in Empire.

Empire was basically Vader: A Night at the Apollo.

 

[Fewr]

We've hit 120 pages now. I think we've covered everything.

Surely, you mean 61.

 

[Sanctuary]

Wonder how people would feel about this line if it originally existed in the OT.

Probably fine with it, since it would have shown that he's known to make stupidly obvious "get it, get it?" jokes. He never did though.
Would anyone have an issue if he instead made a lame ass joke about sand being coarse?

 

[Haloid1177]

I don't think so as the X-Wing assault on Starkiller was a backdrop item, and just imagine the "IT'S LIKE ANH" complaints if there was some big 5-10 minute one as opposed to it just simply showing them flying in there and attacking the core. The mid-film assault was better because it focused on that for just a bit. The climax, unlike ANH, was the lightsaber duel.

But I didn't get any cool space or ship stuff in TFA as a result and this gave me like ROTJ-tier space battle which pretty much automatically makes Rogue One better.

 

[Jibbed]

I mean, it's the only theme you can really pick out and give to a character in the film itself, as it plays as soon as he's introduced, and plays almost every time he's on screen.

To be fair, I still don't really rate VII's soundtrack either.

Rey's theme is great. The last track that went with the journey / Jedi steps, also great. The march of the Resistance? Meh.

The rest, I forget.

Empire was basically Vader: A Night at the Apollo.

Fucking lol.

 

[Killer Queen]

Probably fine with it, since it would have shown that he's known to make stupidly obvious "get it, get it?" jokes. He never did though.

He made a handful of jokes in the OT, you can't really argue the type of jokes he would or wouldn't make based on that.
And then you remember that he's also Anakin Skywalker who trained under Obi Wan nearly his entire life.

Yeah, definitely something he would do.