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Rogue One: A Star Wars Story |OT| They rebel - SPOILERS
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That's, uh, pretty much it.
I could be mistaken, but I think he just said the flaw was in the reactor design. Damage to the reactor wouldn't destroy the whole station if he'd designed it right. An open vent to the reactor is a separate problem, and only a big deal because the reactor is so fragile.
Start watching clone wars ASAP.
Very true but I'd imagine exhaust points on something that large normally shouldn't cause the entire station to explode.
Yeah, hadn't considered that. Makes more sense.
OriginofHysteria
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I've always said that this is the scene where no one had shit their pants in the galaxy more more than Admiral Piett. His face after the Falcon went into hyperspace showed everything.
Preach. I see TFA often praised for its cinematography, "best looking Star Wars movie", but it really doesn't compare. Taking a look at how conversations are filmed is a reliable, basic barometer for the series.
Back-In-Black
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No lies sensed.
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(let me know if this is cool, found the scene on YouTube)
This scene did so much to repair the damage the prequels did to Darth Vader as a character.
The only other canon film is the animated movie The Clone Wars, which is the beginning of an animated tv show by the same name. The Clone Wars and Rebels are the two canon cartoon series. TCW takes place between II and III, Rebels takes place between III and IV.
Outside of those two shows and the movies, there are numerous books, comics, and short stories which are canonical.
Before he ignited his lightsaber I was expecting him to pull a Paranormal Activity and drag one of the rebels into the darkness.
unpopularblargh
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Either Tarkin got better or I adapted as the film went along. Leia to me was obviously CGI. The hair gave it away.
Thinking about RO and TFA, I really just think they are ok films at best and probably would've been reviewed lower if not for SW in the titles. They are gonna have to be totally original for Ep VIII or something. The cinematography have been on point in both movies though.
Killer Queen
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Honestly Clone Wars makes me hate Jar Jar even more simply because they feature him at all, and more than once.
Alright. Thanks. So it's The Clone Wars and Rebels. That's what I didn't know.
MHWilliams
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Given actual workplaces in the real world, my guess is a ton of people noticed and no one had the balls to point it out to the higher-ups.
Especially in a workplace where random executions are sanctioned.
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(let me know if this is cool, found the scene on YouTube)
being trapped in a corridor with Vader as he approaches hacking away and force killing. How fucking terrifying that would be.
Killer Queen
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And your leader is a murderous cyborg with a laser sword and space magic
Back-In-Black
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If you have any interest in the new canon in general, there's the franchise OT on the off topic community board and Malyse's canon thread on the off topic discussion side.
Sanjaaaaaaaay
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I know this is going to come as some surprise to some people (I don't know why) but most people saw this film in 3D.
The added dimness the glasses gave helped guise the CG Tarkin and Leah. Obviously I could tell because the actor is dead, but most people don't even realize or don't even bother to look for those things.
I'm sure when I see the thing normally it'll look way worse but honestly thought it was passable.
The added dimness the glasses gave helped guise the CG Tarkin and Leah. Obviously I could tell because the actor is dead, but most people don't even realize or don't even bother to look for those things.
I'm sure when I see the thing normally it'll look way worse but honestly thought it was passable.
Katzenjammer
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As someone who works as an engineer and makes designs for work: I can totally see something like this easily slipping by. The Death Star is huge, it's probably constructed under pressure, and few people, if any, would have a grasp of the full design of it. Even if Galen didn't intentionally plant the weakness it would be plausible for the rebels to find one.
A bit similar to how hackers often manage to crack software that is specifically designed to be secure.
MHWilliams
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Vader is Dark Side. Stewing in the place of his greatest failure probably makes him incredibly strong.
The first half of the movie was kind of a mess, but the second half was glorious. Really hit its stride when the team got together. I feel that they fumbled Saw Gerrara's character. He just seemed...silly. Not enough backstory to understand what he was all about. Vader was awesome and I love how they only used a fraction of the Death Star's power for testing. Blowing up planets is too expected.
The visual guide says that Sheev makes him live there. He wants to keep him mad since it makes him strong.
Kept there with nothing but the random beeping of his suit to keep him company.
I'd like to believe that he goes back to that slope and measures the angle of the slope and his jump to see what amount of high ground is acceptable high ground.
It's why he makes detours to kill Tuskan Raiders any time he is forced to go to Tatooine.
Might as well work out so.e aggression when he has to face his failures.
Yes, it's the kind of fan-service that makes no sense, really. Seems like someone thought "Well, Mustafar is where Vader was created, and it's really atmospheric, so we should give him a base there!" without considering character motivation. In what world would someone set up an office at the same place they were horribly, painfully disfigured, the same place they lost all potential and hope for a future, the same place you sadistically murdered (to his knowledge) your wife. Why?
Because this is exactly the kind of thing Sheev would do.
In a world where you have to follow the order of a insane sith lord. If your boss finds a new office place where its shitty you have to follow rules, too.
both me and my friends thought he was real. it was convincing to some people, seriously. if you're not looking for it, it's not as obvious as you think it is. i really need to pay attention to what's being said when there's dialogue happening so visuals come secondary to me. fwiw, we watched it in IMAX 3D and apparently that makes a difference.
extremists be crazy yo
Hey, now! Palpatine is not insane. He's just evil.
I mean, The Clone Wars showed repaired all that damage a long while ago.
Yes, it's Mustafar.
I think it makes sense that he lives there (Or that Palpatine makes him live there). That planet is where the highest point of his rage and sadness was achieved. Throughout the entire series we see Vader get pissed off quite a few times, but we never see him as enraged as in Episode III, during the duel in Mustafar.
Mustafar is where his weak side, Anakin Skywalker was "killed". Sure, he became a Sith before coming to the planet, but this is where his body and mind were completely destroyed.
Since the Sith feed on negative emotions like rage, sadness, desire for vengeance, etc, it makes sense that Vader (Or again, Palpatine) would choose this particular place for a residence.
Yeah but this is something that people will watch
Also it's worth considering that With operate on a different logic than us.
When your brief system operates off the idea that rage and hatred literally empowers you, you would start hanging around places that royally piss you off too.
Heh, yeah I suppose so. I would imagine Palpatine tries to de-humanise Vader more than constantly reminding him of his demons to keep him hot and angry. Like in the OT, Palpatine wouldn't even refer to Luke as Vader's son. He called him "the offspring of Anakin Skywalker" or whatever to Vader's face. He wants Vader to feel like a machine at this point, not an angry dog, stewing on the past. At this point I suppose this is just wild speculation, so I guess I'll give it a pass.
ThoseDeafMutes
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Based on dialogue in Ep4, it didn't seem that hard to find the flaw, and they were more thinking that it was implausible a fighter could pull it off. The ds is bristling with turrets and fighter squadrons, then the port is specifically protected by ray shields, so all things considered it was still mostly secure and it feels like they knew it was a vulnerability even if they didn't understand the full significance of what would happen if it was hit. Took a force sensitive to make the shot go in after surviving the gauntlet of defences, which most of the attacking craft didn't.
As far as sabotage goes, it was like the longest of long shots that anyone would be able to exploit the weakness he put in. Hence why I don't think they needed it being a deliberate weakness as a plot point at all. It feels perfectly natural as an overlooked aspect of the design.
No, he's insane too.
Another established reason for Vader wanting to overthrow him and take over is that even Vader acknowledges that Palpatine is off his rocker and makes a lot of bad calls that could (and do!) hurt the empire.
Namely building a second death star.
Killer Queen
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I think that has more to do with the fact that during the filming of the 'No I am your father scene' they came up with it on that day. It wasn't pre planned.
Bobby Roberts
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Because he's a Sith.
They're sadomasochists.
No, the twist was thought up quite a while prior to the shooting of that scene.
Clone Wars is on netflix now. More people should watch it. At least those that actually care to keep up with Star Wars. Imho.
WascallyWabbit
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I just rewatched the trailer, among some of the missing scenes and dialogue, I just noticed that forest whitaker is completely bald in the trailer and in the movie he has a full head of hair. Wonder what that's all about lol
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