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Rogue One: A Star Wars Story |OT| They rebel - SPOILERS
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Escape Goat
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We don't know. Presumably because he's been corrupted by the dark side.
It's almost like those movies are really badly written.
ShadowSoldier89
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I just got back from seeing this. Vader's handling was about my favorite thing (aside from the whole Erso plot fixing silliness in a new hope in an extremely well done way). I love how his fighting style in that scene is just the calm collected fear inducing badass he always was.
Killer Queen
Banned
He went fully to the Dark side and became a sith, he blames the Jedi, republic and everyone else for all the shitty cards he's been dealt. The emperor revived him, gave him power and opened him to a new world without the restrictions of the Jedi, Anakin became a psychopathic murderer driven by emotion and once you go to the dark side it's hard to go back, especially after everything that happened to him.
-Jedi trained him, told him he was Jesus then denied him a leading role
-Jedi didn't want him messing around with Padme
-Jedi didn't want him to feel anything
-His mom was sold back into slavery and he watched her die
-The emperor promised him power, that he could do whatever he wanted, bring people back to live or prevent death and its a given that he gets to stick with Padme
Which seems like the better deal?
George Oscar Bluth II
Banned
The low quality and worn look actually benefits ANH now because it can be explained as some slight battle damage from the events of RO.
My favourite suit is ESB but I gotta admit that I miss the green button on his chest piece.
Because Anakin was stupid enough to be convinced by Sheev to being a shitlord.
And because Lucas' writing is trash.
Scrooge McDuck
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So, pretty much the situation and weakness is not the same at all? I'm not arguing about which one is more difficult to do. I'm arguing that having any way to destroy the heart of your fortress from outside is a clear design flaw. A particular flaw that the Starkiller base doesn't have.
Back-In-Black
Banned
Saving Padme was not the only reason he turned to the Dark Side, it was the final push that allowed Palpatine to manipulate him. Did you forget that he fucking tried to kill pregnant Padme at the end of Ep. III? As far as he knew, after his duel, he killed Padme. But, Anakin wanted more than to save Padme, he continually felt that the Jedi were holding him back, keeping secrets from him, and denying him the power and respect he believed he deserved. On the other hand, Palpatine appears to be the only one to treat him as an adult and an equal, who recognizes his talent and his greatness. Anakin Skywalker wanted Power and Respect.
What does he want by the OT? Well, he says it to Luke in Empire:
Chezzymann
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They really messed up though. In both ANH and ESB the cape is over the neck piece, connected by a chain. In Rogue One its just tucked under the neck. Looks dumb
Very ready to be shocked a lot because a fuck ton of people have no idea.
demosthenes
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That has nothing to do with Vader being with the emperor. He drank the dark Kool aid. He has nothing else.
Wait, I didn't say they should remove the hallway scene if that's what you're referring to. As I said, that is a really menacing, ruthless and powerful moment that we haven't seen from Vader before, for sure. I'm saying I think the previous sequence with Vader isn't necessary. I don't think those added anything in the way of ruthlessness/terror to Vader at all, really, and in doing so, it would make the final hallway sequence that much more powerful.
Oh yeah, great scene. Just through the reactions of the other officers you know how terrifying this guy is.
Dreams-Visions
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I mean, we didn't see Vader doing anything at all in the Prequels (afaik, only him being created), and Vader was only badass by reputation in the OT. He did nothing on silver screen to earn his rep as a badass. It was just known so everyone stayed in line. Everyone was intimidated by him so he must be badass. That's fine, but it's not the same. Again, nothing but a few chokes and some levetation, IIRC in the whole OT.
Sort of like the difference between seeing Mike Tyson be intimidating hovering over people and talking shit, vs watching Mike Tyson at 20 in the ring. You can know Mike Tyson was a badass if you never even saw him fight...but man if you ever saw him really fight...
My problem isn't whether it's over or under the neckpiece but that it looks shitty because it's too closed. Vader keeps it open and back more on the shoulders and in Rogue One he's got it closed like a cloak instead of a cape and it makes him look weaker. That and he's got a noticeable shoulder slump whereas Dave Prowse kept that shit erect and proud and looked more intimidating.
Because he didnt knew that Padme did die later in childbirth and the emporer hardly had anything the fault that he fucked up against Obi Wan and slided in the lava and was nice enough to provided healt ensuring machines to Anakin?
Yes, heh, Lucas is such a idiot. Or we could remember exactly what happened.
It's not though, just sometimes. I posted a pic from ANH and ESB where the cape is under the neck like Rogue One.
Killer Queen
Banned
Oh okay, then I misunderstood! I still wouldn't agree that the other scene should be removed because I liked it but I won't deny that it added much to his character. I think it was more for Krennic
Chezzymann
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Ah, I guess Vader might feel like changing up his style a bit sometimes lol
There's no go damn way. Aside from people either not knowing who Tarkin is or that Cushing has been dead for two decades, I can't see people thinking he's real unless they have vision problems.
Robots.
I think he would've eventually overthrown the emperor, but he wanted his own apprentice in order to double team him because he didn't think he or anyone else could handle Sidious solo. This seemed like his motive with Luke, Rebels Ahsoka, and Starkiller (not canon anymore but still). Plus he was a broken man (both psychologically and physically) with nothing left to go back to aside from the dark side and a ton of rage.
That's not true! That's impossible!
Industrial Light and Magic.
StopMakingSense
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I gonna be the new 'people who can't tell/don't mind' motion smoothing.
Gun Animal
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am i right in thinking that you can fake photorealism with lots of small details/imperfections and wrinkles, and that's why old people are so much more believable than young people when they're CGI'd? I see this in effect on a lot of 3D art communities too, where the models that are shown as paragons of photorealism are always of old people.
Back-In-Black
Banned
"I would've blown the bridge up" - Ben Solo
jstevenson
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what what what what.
no that scene was awesome. He threw a guy to the ceiling with the force, then pulled his buddies guns away while slashing him with his saber.
Also if you want more badass Vader - watch Rebels. He wrecks shit when he shows up
Probably because they know that at no point are they clear of being strangled to death
They put so much more care into building a consistent, believable world than JJ did for Force Awakens. I have a lot more hope for the future of Star Wars after seeing Rogue One.
Leia, on the other hand, I didn't notice at all. I walked out of the theater wondering if she was a real actor.
I had throught from the trailer they had just gotten another actor for Tarkin, but in the film it was immediately obvious he was CG. The skin didn't look right. It was very distracting to me, especially at first.
Leia, on the other hand, I didn't notice at all. I walked out of the theater wondering if she was a real actor.
civilstrife
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Anyone else notice missing shots from trailers that weren't in the movie?
"I rebel" isn't in the movie.
Nor is that awesome shot of a tie fighter rising behind Jyn on the tower.
Or did I just miss them?
"I rebel" isn't in the movie.
Nor is that awesome shot of a tie fighter rising behind Jyn on the tower.
Or did I just miss them?
darkwing-buck
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clem84
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I went in knowing next to nothing about the movie. So, that admiral in charge of the Deathstar who was also in ANH, as well as Princess Leia, were CG? They looked like CG. You could kinda tell but it was still well done.
Overall I liked it. The shots where the Deathstar fires at the surface were really well done.
I thought it was really sad when that robot died... was destroyed, whatever. He was the funniest part of the movie.
I also laughed at the "Oh come on! I'm blind!".
There were more surprises in this one. That's the main reason I liked it more than ep. 7.
Overall I liked it. The shots where the Deathstar fires at the surface were really well done.
I thought it was really sad when that robot died... was destroyed, whatever. He was the funniest part of the movie.
I also laughed at the "Oh come on! I'm blind!".
There were more surprises in this one. That's the main reason I liked it more than ep. 7.
Killer Queen
Banned
They cut a lot of promotional material from the film.
Gamer @ Heart
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Thinking back, it is kind of bumming me out how ultimately her dad's weapon killed her still.
He didn't find out all the ways Palpatine manipulated him until after ANH.
It's why he mentions wanting Luke to join him in taking over the empire because he absolutely does start turning on the emperor once he know how much Palps had been dicking him over.
darkwing-buck
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Fuuuuuuuuuuck.
Just one example of how ESB is the best directed Star Wars film.
civilstrife
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Well it was named after her, so technically she killed herself.
Killer Queen
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Is it bad that I find this hilarious
Trigonometrize.
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If only the geonosian bugs had showed up to kill the dad, then we would've gotten a circle of Erso irony.
The vent shaft becomes a lot more innocuous when it turns out the actual blind spot was the reactor itself.
I hope this is okay to ask here but what other movies should I watch that are "cannon" (I hope I'm using that term correctly) to Star Wars. Only last year I saw Star Wars for the first time ever.
I have seen S.W. in this order
Episode IV
Episode V
Episode VI
Episode I
Episode II
Episode III
Episode VII
Rogue One
I'd also appreciate it if you told me where the films go in the timeline. For example, I Know it goes in this order, 1-3, Rogue One, 4-7.
I have seen S.W. in this order
Episode IV
Episode V
Episode VI
Episode I
Episode II
Episode III
Episode VII
Rogue One
I'd also appreciate it if you told me where the films go in the timeline. For example, I Know it goes in this order, 1-3, Rogue One, 4-7.
Exhaust ports are a thing that exist.
Killer Queen
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All films are canon
Demoncarnotaur
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Huh. I did not think this movie was very good at all.
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