show me your skeleton
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why did darth vader go from ass kicker to 'waves lightsaber around a bit' in the span of a few days?
Rogue One: A Star Wars Story |OT| They rebel - SPOILERS
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Veritigo_X
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Wow, AOTC at #2? That's a first.
Freewheelin'
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Empire Strikes Back
A New Hope
The Force Awakens
Rogue One
Return Of The Jedi
The Phantom Menace
Return Of The Sith
Attack Of The Clones
Lone_Prodigy
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When they said "make 10 Rebels seem like a hundred", they weren't kidding. How many were in that stolen shuttle on Scarif?
Also, did the capture of the fleet at Scarif explain the lack of capital ships at Yavin 4 when the Death Star shows up? At least we know how Ackbar got his promotion.
Also, did the capture of the fleet at Scarif explain the lack of capital ships at Yavin 4 when the Death Star shows up? At least we know how Ackbar got his promotion.
because he knows he can easily beat obi wan and that scene is about what they are saying to each other not fighting
LegendofLex
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Let me put it another way:
Why didn't the blockade runner receive the transmission from Scarif directly? (Or, more accurately, why couldn't that have been what was happening as Vader was attempting to board the ship?)
It's actually because the guy in the Darth Vader suit could barely see and move, and Sir Alec Guinness was an old man.
But that little, useless spin though. Charming.
Just_myles
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I feel like this movie
Hopefully they redeem TFA
Good movie btw. A good star wars movie to boot.
redeemed the nonsence of the death star.
with another explanation as to why there is one specific weak point.
Good movie btw. A good star wars movie to boot.
Fixed2BeBroken
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ThoseDeafMutes
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Empire Strikes Back >
Star Wars >
Return of the Jedi = The Force Awakens = Revenge of the Sith = Rogue One >
Attack of the Clones >
The Phantom Menace >
The Christmas Special
Star Wars >
Return of the Jedi = The Force Awakens = Revenge of the Sith = Rogue One >
Attack of the Clones >
The Phantom Menace >
The Christmas Special
Also, rogue one was made 30 years later.
nelsonroyale
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I just watched it. Overall, I enjoyed it. It many similarities to TFA and basically felt to me like a superior version of that movie. A lot of the similarities in the way the narrative flowed. Well it was pretty linear story telling but at least it felt like it made more sense in this one. And it was a little more fleshed out. I don't think it was really written well enough that I cared much about the characters, and how it played out was fairly predictable. But overall, I thought it was a pretty good time and justified its existence.
Shout out to some of the garbage trailers that came before it...So many shallow looking super hero movies and sci fi movies in the pipeline...
Shout out to some of the garbage trailers that came before it...So many shallow looking super hero movies and sci fi movies in the pipeline...
kaiju
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IDK about rankings but Rogue One was a blast. The soundtrack was amazing. My favorite Star Wars movie of the Disney era thus far. High quality movie, if Episode VIII can top it (and I think it will) we are in good hands.
Also, Lord Vader's castle? Are you fucking kidding me? Lego, get to work!
Also, Lord Vader's castle? Are you fucking kidding me? Lego, get to work!
The movien only right?
brandonh83
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Man the music at the end of the Scarif events... just beautiful. IMO Giacchino killed it.
I've seen people down on the score and I was at first; I never thought it was bad but it didn't stick out the first time I saw it but I didn't even like the movie the first time I saw it. People need to give the score another chance.
Lifejumper
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Shit looks like Barad dur. I wonder if Darth Vader and Sauron are bunk buddies.IDK about rankings but Rogue One was a blast. The soundtrack was amazing. My favorite Star Wars movie of the Disney era thus far. High quality movie, if Episode VIII can top it (and I think it will) we are in good hands.
Also, Lord Vader's castle? Are you fucking kidding me? Lego, get to work!
Yes.
WadiumArcadium
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Yep, the score's really grown on me. Giacchino did a great job, especially when you think he only had four weeks. I like how he didn't over-rely on Williams' themes. It's got a SW feel anyway.
brandonh83
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I'm all for shit like this. Villains in evil castles? Yes please, it's a weakness of mine.
kaiju
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I know nothing of this Sauron you speak of. Darth Vader has a Sith Temple. On Mustafar.
Saw this a second time and warmed up to it a quite bit more, which I think was a result of having watched ANH just moments before we left to the theater, something I didn't have a chance to do before seeing RO the first time. Despite how I feel about RO's characters, I do recognize the weight of their sacrifice when I see what comes of it immediately in ANH. There's a feeling of legitimacy to events transpired in RO now that I can't shake off. I think I really like Rogue One, guys.
I would like to see a director's cut someday though, if possible.
I would like to see a director's cut someday though, if possible.
brandonh83
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I felt this way about Jurassic World too. Like he cited the original themes a few times but they didn't take precedence over writing new themes. The original stuff played at the right moments but the score was mostly new material. He knows how to respect the old while giving something its own energy and voice.
Like Rogue One has a new Imperial theme. You could call it Krennic's theme maybe, but it plays over shots of Star Destroyers and shit just like John's Imperial theme did in ESB. That takes balls, and his new Imperial theme is very very memorable on its own.
brandonh83
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I agree about it not being as good as TFA.
I don't agree about it being unnecessary. I thought it actually made ANH better, and gave it a new perspective as well as show us more of the galaxy and even went into how the Jedi and Force were being preserved as much as possible after their downfall.
And really, if a movie is fun, that's the only reason it needs to exist. I'm hoping Kasdan's Han Solo script is this thoughtful.
Lone_Prodigy
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Is it just me, or did the music feel like it was just trying to imitate the classic score from Williams? Like, it sounded like it would swell into the more popular riffs, but shies away at the last moment and then does its own thing?
I agree that it was not as good as the Force Awakens but I thought it was a really good movie. Everyone that crapped on Whitta has a lot of crow to eat. Really, really well written movie. The way it ends was amazing and a great intro to ANH.
Two good SW movies in two years. That has never happened before!
brandonh83
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It does this a few times, but you literally just said that it goes into its own thing lol. So, that's not really imitating, I think it's trying to sound like Star Wars, which Williams created that, but if you know Giacchino's previous work, it's actually much closer to that.
I think a composer being able to come in and create something that sounds like John Williams whilst doing its own thing is more than stupidly impressive, especially considering the limited window in which he had to write it.
Who was crapping on Whitta? And why?
I smiled a little bit when his name popped up at the end.
Athough I only know him as a friend of Giant Bomb.
He took a lot of shit here, especially after that Will Smith movie.
Most people were very negative on the movie based on his involvement.
Of course this is the internet so people are very quick to shit on something and disappear when it is time to praise or admit that they are wrong.
Gary Whitta only got a story credit though, not a screenplay credit. Obviously he did a good job with the story, but I don't know how much of his writing is actually in there still.
Kung Fu Jedi
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Yeah, I was expecting "Star Wars: The Dirty Dozen" or "Force 10 From Alderaan" but we got something that was no where near that interesting. I had expected it to be a group of highly skilled commandos on a well-platted out, but long-shot, mission to steal the plans to the Death Star. Was a bit disappointed that it turned out to be "Let's go get those plans... somehow!"
brandonh83
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Which was shit because of many reasons beyond the script. I also liked Book of Eli.
Gary ain't so bad and he's accomplished some crazy things. I got nothing but respect for the time being.
I also recall him signing Book of Eli DVDs for people here which is pretty cool.
Can't believe people are putting Revenge of the Sith over Attack of the Clones. I mean yeah Clones is a mess but it has some of the coolest action in that trilogy. ROTS has lame ass prequel Jedi battles with the twirling like their on fucking parade. Anakin vs Obi Wan is some lame shit.
Attack of the Clones is the best of a bad lot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tMZdrUx8eM
Attack of the Clones is the best of a bad lot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tMZdrUx8eM
Reagan's BR
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1. Empire
2. Star Wars
3. Rogue One
4. Jedi
5. Force Awakens
6. Sith
7. Clones
8. Phantom Menace
A few notes:
Rogue One had some pacing issues in the beginning but ultimately ended up being a journey through the universe of the Original Trilogy. I got a lot of what I had been hoping to see on screen following Empire and Jedi - cool Imperial uniforms, different Storm Trooper variations, more AT-AT's, more insight into the structure of the Alliance etc. Definitely a fan's movie and I'm sure many would argue that this "fan service" detracts from the actual film. That said, the movie excels at giving viewers exposure to the world of the Original Trilogy (something I have wanted for a long time). It feels like someone took the Hoth battle and stretched it out into a full length film. It is imperfect but the way in which it fleshed out the universe far exceeds the disjointed world building of the prequels.
Jedi beats out Force Awakens simply because it closes out the original story. This could change as 8 and 9 may make Force Awakens a better beginning than Jedi was a conclusion. Hard to say at this point in time. Overall Jedi had higher highs (Luke vs Vader, Speeder Bikes) and much lower lows (too much time with Jabba and Ewoks) than Force Awakens. Both are retreads of Star Wars with a new Death Star. Force Awakens is certainly a much more consistent film. Every time I watch Jedi I think about what could have been if the second death star and Ewoks had not been included.
Similarly Clones beats out Phantom Menace because it does not have child Anakin blowing up a ship and Jar Jar fumbling around a battlefield. Darth Maul battle and Pod Racing were the only good parts of Phantom Menace. Clones suffered from a terrible romantic subplot, CGI, 50's diner, and Yoda fighting but at least the viewer is not made to suffer Jar Jar and child Anakin.
2. Star Wars
3. Rogue One
4. Jedi
5. Force Awakens
6. Sith
7. Clones
8. Phantom Menace
A few notes:
Rogue One had some pacing issues in the beginning but ultimately ended up being a journey through the universe of the Original Trilogy. I got a lot of what I had been hoping to see on screen following Empire and Jedi - cool Imperial uniforms, different Storm Trooper variations, more AT-AT's, more insight into the structure of the Alliance etc. Definitely a fan's movie and I'm sure many would argue that this "fan service" detracts from the actual film. That said, the movie excels at giving viewers exposure to the world of the Original Trilogy (something I have wanted for a long time). It feels like someone took the Hoth battle and stretched it out into a full length film. It is imperfect but the way in which it fleshed out the universe far exceeds the disjointed world building of the prequels.
Jedi beats out Force Awakens simply because it closes out the original story. This could change as 8 and 9 may make Force Awakens a better beginning than Jedi was a conclusion. Hard to say at this point in time. Overall Jedi had higher highs (Luke vs Vader, Speeder Bikes) and much lower lows (too much time with Jabba and Ewoks) than Force Awakens. Both are retreads of Star Wars with a new Death Star. Force Awakens is certainly a much more consistent film. Every time I watch Jedi I think about what could have been if the second death star and Ewoks had not been included.
Similarly Clones beats out Phantom Menace because it does not have child Anakin blowing up a ship and Jar Jar fumbling around a battlefield. Darth Maul battle and Pod Racing were the only good parts of Phantom Menace. Clones suffered from a terrible romantic subplot, CGI, 50's diner, and Yoda fighting but at least the viewer is not made to suffer Jar Jar and child Anakin.
brandonh83
Banned
I can't think of one thing AOTC does better than ROTS.
No.
Geonosis is a better land battle than Kashyyyk or Utapau.
I put Sith above Jedi honestly, Clones is at my botton because that movie is a piece of trash
brandonh83
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That was also the climax of AOTC. Kashyyyk was brief as was Utapau. The major conflict on Utapau was between Kenobi and Grievous and then when Order 66 was executed.
Same. I get shit for it but I stand firm.
What Attack of the Clones does better is put regular but competent people vs Jedi such as the Zam chase and the Jango Fett Obi Wan fight which end up being the most dynamic action sequences in the series. Most of the lightsaber battles in those movies just aren't that cool and ROTS has some of the worst. Only one I really liked from that movie is Dooku vs the fam.
Just_myles
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No way. The only thing good about the prequels was the lightsaber scenes. Light years ahead of the original trilogy. Light years.
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