It's the best movie in the whole series.
Rogue One: A Star Wars Story |OT| They rebel - SPOILERS
- Thread starter Quick
- Start date
- Status
It's the best movie in the whole series.
Without question. But it could have been so much more. Still happy we got another pretty good SW film.
theCalamity
Member
That's not a very high bar and Rogue One barely passes it.
theCalamity
Member
What point was that?
The Death Star could always travel through hyperspace. They just didn't want to fire it through a gas giant in ANH (never really clarified why though) so they had to get into firing range.
Costa Kid
Member
SAME and that lone wolf scene...
Joel Was Right
Member
The last 15 minutes of this film is better than anything I've seen from the Star Wars series thus far. Generally speaking, these films are quite forgettable pieces of cinema running on pure nostalgia. I have to say, cinema is pretty shit these days. Better drama on TV.
Flying between star systems would have taken slightly longer than 15 minutes without lightspeed. The waiting period was just final manoeuvres when preparing to fire
Is that information actually given in ANH? The gas giant stuff
Lifejumper
Member
No, but looking around Wookieepedia gave me the actual old EU answer.
So they wanted a direct hit.
+ I enjoyed a lot of the first half's world building. I enjoyed the practical effects, the ridiculous amount of puppets and different looking characters and locations. Felt like Star Wars but doing something different, like the very few good parts of the prequels; the fact that they were expanding upon the world rather than doing the same thing.
- Second half has a ton of pacing issues and the last battle is way too long and fuckin headache inducing (regardless of how well made it's done and executed)
+ Vader fight is cool. It's real silly fan service but fuck it man it's Star Wars and whatever, I enjoyed it. Cool for cool has it's place.
- Why did Forest Whitaker die. Wtf was that unearned awful supposedly emotional moment? I actually laughed
- Felicty Jones (or rather what she's given to work with, too) is fucking horrible in it. As bland a character as I think ive ever seen, jesus.
- Characters are actually all bad. There's no build up or proper backstory to any of them. I dont care. No stakes to em.
- We get a frickin hollywood "sacrifice" scene to each single one of them one after the other. gimme a break.
+ I did like that they killed all of em tho.
- Small nitpick but the reusing of old original trilogy footage was jarring. You could easily notice it and it served no real purpose other than create some interesting "trivia" buzz I guess.
+ I really liked Raddus
- I wish I knew more about Raddus and his ship than him somehow being the sudden last half unspoken hero
- CGI characters. why. why you do that. Tarkin was somewhat ok at times. Last minute CG young Leia tho? my god, what a shit way to end the thing. I couldnt believe it.
I like the first half of the movie more than I liked a lot of Force Awakens actually so there's that.
- Second half has a ton of pacing issues and the last battle is way too long and fuckin headache inducing (regardless of how well made it's done and executed)
+ Vader fight is cool. It's real silly fan service but fuck it man it's Star Wars and whatever, I enjoyed it. Cool for cool has it's place.
- Why did Forest Whitaker die. Wtf was that unearned awful supposedly emotional moment? I actually laughed
- Felicty Jones (or rather what she's given to work with, too) is fucking horrible in it. As bland a character as I think ive ever seen, jesus.
- Characters are actually all bad. There's no build up or proper backstory to any of them. I dont care. No stakes to em.
- We get a frickin hollywood "sacrifice" scene to each single one of them one after the other. gimme a break.
+ I did like that they killed all of em tho.
- Small nitpick but the reusing of old original trilogy footage was jarring. You could easily notice it and it served no real purpose other than create some interesting "trivia" buzz I guess.
+ I really liked Raddus
- I wish I knew more about Raddus and his ship than him somehow being the sudden last half unspoken hero
- CGI characters. why. why you do that. Tarkin was somewhat ok at times. Last minute CG young Leia tho? my god, what a shit way to end the thing. I couldnt believe it.
I like the first half of the movie more than I liked a lot of Force Awakens actually so there's that.
Patrick Bateman
Member
I'm back from cinema.
Seriously, best SW-movie since 1983.
Seriously, best SW-movie since 1983.
I just got back from it. I thought TarkIn looked terrible and it'll be laughed at in years to come. Leia seemed better to me.
But overall I think I like it 2nd or 3rd best in the entire Star Wars franchise.
Patrick Bateman
Member
Tarkin looked like a high class CGI-character from some nextgen-SW-game.
gutter_trash
Banned
saw today, loved it.
the battle sequences was the most warlike of any Star Wars since the Hoth battle in ESB and the space battle in ROTJ
my biggest gripe with JJ Abrams was that he rushes sequences and scenes too quickly and we couldn't savour the air battles much.
Rougue ONE fixed that with the real defintion of the word "Wars" in Star Wars.
The tie up at the end was full of fan service LOL
the battle sequences was the most warlike of any Star Wars since the Hoth battle in ESB and the space battle in ROTJ
my biggest gripe with JJ Abrams was that he rushes sequences and scenes too quickly and we couldn't savour the air battles much.
Rougue ONE fixed that with the real defintion of the word "Wars" in Star Wars.
The tie up at the end was full of fan service LOL
I think it has to do with the darker lighting. I could handle it at times I guess but I fucking hate it even on principle.
why do something like that. it's never going to be not-distracting and it takes you out of the world in the sense that even if someone likes it; all they're gonna think about while watching is "oh! how impressive!"
it's never gonna be a performance or a character and they're never gonna feel like something that belongs and fits along the narrative. it's a fuckin shitty "trick" that takes you out of it regardless of what you think of it.
why do something like that. it's never going to be not-distracting and it takes you out of the world in the sense that even if someone likes it; all they're gonna think about while watching is "oh! how impressive!"
it's never gonna be a performance or a character and they're never gonna feel like something that belongs and fits along the narrative. it's a fuckin shitty "trick" that takes you out of it regardless of what you think of it.
thecouncil
Banned
ViewtifulJC
Banned
is this the bargaining phase
The whole movie to me seemed like a contrast to what Star Wars was all about up to this point: Almost invincible space wizards cutting people to bits while looking badass doing that.
Rogue One felt kind of like the antithesis to that, as in regular people that don't have the privilege of being space wizards with complete arcs, because grunts on the ground simply die before they can get the luxury of having a satisfying character arc.
Megalosaro
Banned
This movie was amazing and it was the Star Wars movie I always wanted.
It had everything I like about the franchise. The only problem I had was the sort of bad Tarkin CGI, but it was worth it to he the character in the movie.
I want more like this.
It had everything I like about the franchise. The only problem I had was the sort of bad Tarkin CGI, but it was worth it to he the character in the movie.
I want more like this.
"movie was trying to make a point by being disappointing"
cool
lets shoot a whole film of a "space pedestrian" that just gets killed by a car
movie was just ridiculously lacking in terms of characters. I dont know anyone's name, I dont care, I forgot all of em.
even K2SO was the cheapest humor available, regardless of some lines landing because of Tudyk.
I almost feel like I should post a link to McKee monologue's from Adaptation.
This should go without saying, this should be beyond debate, but opinions man.
There's gonna be some people who honestly think The Phantom Menace is the best Star Wars movie, it just can't be helped.
Scariff is an Imperial stronghold, well mapped, the Deathstar could exit hyperspace wherever the fuck it wanted for the perfect shot.
Yavin is some backwater no-name system (where else would the Rebels have their secret base?) so oming out of Hyperspace was a bit more pot luck, the got unlucky and had to swing around the gas giant to get a direct shot.
Or, y'know, The Force did it.
The Casino Royale of the Star Wars franchise, goddamn at the brutality and ending. Anyway by far my favorite prequel but to play armchair director I wished they cut some of the ensemble cast (defecting pilot and his mind recovery didn't do much for me, and less CGI Tarkin the better) and fleshed out more time for the Erso clan, and Cassian.
like... in what way?
Casino Royale was great because it felt small and focused
this was literally the opposite of that
I appreciated the third act in a Star Wars way, if that makes sense. It was serviceable to that.
but it has a lot of flaws as a film in my opinion. There's a silly amount of build up to it, and when it arrives it honestly just takes a bit too long. I was ready for it (and it needed to) to die down a bit and then Raddus appeared again to say shields were at 50% or something and I went "oof, okay"
it's very well made so that takes a bit of the sting off, but I'd hardly say it doesnt bore in some aspects. It'd work better with a tighter, shorter edit.
The brutaility it brough to their franchises, bummer ending, and it was the most spy driven Star Wars yet. But I agree with you - the rest of my post talked about how cutting the ensemble cast and focusing on Cassian and Erso would've improved it.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Im still waiting on Felicity Jones to do fuckin anything to justify casting her in big movies. I can only take so many flat line readings and sour pouts from this woman. She is the black hole at the center of this movie.
I guess I can see the similarity on it being a bit grittier but humongous yeah to your agreement
it's funny how this started out being planned as a small heist movie and it ended up being by far the biggest "spectacle" of Star Wars' pew pews and bang booms
she's dreadful
more of a droid than K2SO
The One and Done
Member
My ranking
ESB
TFA
R1
ANH
ROTJ
ROTS
PM
CW
ESB
TFA
R1
ANH
ROTJ
ROTS
PM
CW
The only other film I've seen her in was a skiing one and couldn't say either way. Haven't seen the theory of everything yet. Her pout is just big teeth, been there with braces, you just look silly closing your mouth and even worse not closed but you have to choose the former.
It has more Darth Vader than the entire prequel trilogy, so yes
I think the point of making him an Imperial pilot was to show Imperials were willing to defect and that's about it. This could be a lead in to one potential Han Solo backstory although it was EU.
The Lone Courier
Member
So what was up with Vader's helmet, did costume design find out they didn't have a Vader helmet and run out to Walmart to buy one?
Re watch a new hope
WadiumArcadium
Member
Do you seriously think this is funny?
Oh you're right, I will take it back
That would be best
Bobby Roberts
Banned
That's a photoshop. It's not from the movie. He's fucking with the guy.
Lifejumper
Member
Aaaah. He got me too.
The Hermit
Member
Hmm I don't know if I would classify myself as hardcore... Maybe extremist.
I love to death OT and direct derivations and games and I am showing the Despecialized Version to my Gf. The prequel trilogy don't exist.
The Force Awakens is one of the most disappointing movies I've seen.
Rogue one is amazing.
WadiumArcadium
Member
Name's Vanee. All we know at the moment.
The Lone Courier
Member
Never seemed that obvious in ANH.
- Status
Similar threads
- Poll