Fantastapotamus
Wrong about commas, wrong about everything
Maybe not yours!
As a consumer, I like Nintendo's policy to maintain games' prices
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PsihoPerihelion
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You cray cray, OP.
To answer your first question:
Well, because I just bought it. I think anyone who buys something right before a price drop ends up a little bummed. To clarify further when I say a week later I'm talking about this trend where games drop in price within a few weeks of launch. At that point for me it becomes a decision of buy a game I want to play at launch or wait for that first price drop, that may be in a week, or two, or three etc. With Nintendo stuff I don't really have to bother with that and can just buy it near/at launch and get to playing. Even if it drops it's not gonna be for a while. So yeah for me it just takes that waiting game out of the equation which is nice. Just being honest.
To answer your second question. No I don't care if someone else gets a better deal. Why would I?
Edit: To add to the above....If people aren't a fan of how Nintendo games maintain their prices that's understandable and reasonable.
Hah. One more thing. I also have no problem with their games dropping in price, and I would like to seem them follow a reasonable timeline in that regard. It is crazy how long their games stay pricey. So I guess in my head an ideal would be they stay up there in price for at least a few months before dropping and/or going on sale more regularly.
royox
Member
Let's use your logic:
-No-Nintendo game is released at 60$
-Don't buy it and wait 2-3 months
-Get it for 30$
-Another game is released at 60$
-Don't buy it and wait 2-3 months
-Get it for 30$
-Outcome: You expent (NOT WASTED) 60$ and have 2 games, 2 games you own and can be played and replayed when you want.
-Nintendo game is released at 60$
-Get it for 60$
-Another game is released at 60$
-Sell the first game for (as OP said) 40$
-Buy the second game for 60$
-Outcome: You expent (NOT WASTED) 80$ and only have 1 game.
Btw I can't imagine people selling games like Smash Bros, Mario Kart or Splatoon.
If the games got cheaper you wouldn't feel the need to resell them.
Games are a luxury but they shouldn't remain so expensive. People with money can be rewarded with being able to play a new game right away. People with patience can be rewarded with affordable games.
That's how it should be.
A Nintendo system is doom for a kid who's parents don't have a lot of expendable income. They aren't going to have much to play.
Games are a luxury but they shouldn't remain so expensive. People with money can be rewarded with being able to play a new game right away. People with patience can be rewarded with affordable games.
That's how it should be.
A Nintendo system is doom for a kid who's parents don't have a lot of expendable income. They aren't going to have much to play.
It really only serves to alleviate the guilt I have for needing to get a game on day one and not waiting for a sale.
If you play games an immediately resell them I suppose there COULD be an advantage.
But nothing feels better than buying a 4 year old game at 60 bucks, that faint taste of vomit in your mouth is worth a premium for sure.
If you play games an immediately resell them I suppose there COULD be an advantage.
But nothing feels better than buying a 4 year old game at 60 bucks, that faint taste of vomit in your mouth is worth a premium for sure.
Vulcano's assistant
Banned
Hey I did that for 12 years. It was called my Mom and Dad.
test_account
XP-39C²
Thats not really a case of Stockholm Syndrome though. I dont think he feels any pity for Nintendo, and hes not being held hostage or anything like that.
Tallshortman
Member
Anything where you knowingly lose money is not really an investment.
OP, this was something on my mind. This year almost every single PS4 game was half price a month or so later, some so fast it's a worry. Nintendo first party stuff I can buy day 1 or day 1000 and know that really, there is not much chance it will get cheaper by much, ever. That's first party though, be interesting to see what happens with Switch.....
These people should just rent games.
If you live in an area with a video store, like Family Video (this chain still exists in the midwest) then you can rent a game for 5 days for $8.
Other options include RedBox ($1.50/night if you know how to get coupons) or Gamefly - probably the best option for someone who wants to play everything and save money and hassle.
On the other hand, this doesn't work well with the kinds of games Nintendo makes, games that are supposed to be revisited for years. Mario Kart, Smash Bros, etc.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
You don't pay for your Nintendo games?
Well no wonder you want prices to be fixed at a high rate! It's all profit for you. You're claiming it's the most consumer friendly when in truth you mean most friendly for your personal wallet.
Evil's Bane
Member
This is why Nintendo never learns from their mistakes, lol.
This is a bad thread. Games are not an investment. Games never dropping in price is not a pro-consumer move. I've passed on so many Wiiu games because "It's 2+ years old, why is it still $60? I can get a dozen games on Steam for that...".
I rarely buy nintendo games because of this.
I rarely buy nintendo games because of this.
Unknown Soldier
Member
You're right, which is why instead of trying to make a tiny profit on reselling video games I trade stocks. Liquidity is nearly instant, unlike trying to sell physical goods on eBay.
Look at the WiiU release calendar. No one had much to play.
Also, why would you use Nintendo and doom in the same post? You have now summoned the rest of the Nintendo locust to spam the thread with shitty Nintendoomed clock gifs. No criticism of Nintendo will be permitted!
InsaneFandom
Member
Nah, it just means I buy far fewer Nintendo games than I otherwise would.
Looking at my wishlist right now, I can get 3+ PS3/4 games I want for less than the price of the cheapest nintendo game on there.
Resale value means very little to me.
Most of their games do go down in price a bit anyway so it's hardly a sure thing 'investment'-wise. Sure you wont lose as much as if you were reselling an oldish game from another publisher that you bought at launch but that's really more of an argument for not buying at launch in the first place
Looking at my wishlist right now, I can get 3+ PS3/4 games I want for less than the price of the cheapest nintendo game on there.
Resale value means very little to me.
Most of their games do go down in price a bit anyway so it's hardly a sure thing 'investment'-wise. Sure you wont lose as much as if you were reselling an oldish game from another publisher that you bought at launch but that's really more of an argument for not buying at launch in the first place
batman2million
Member
I disagree with the investment part but I do agree that nintendo titles tend to keep their value better than other triple A games.
ElectricBlanketFire
Member
How's imaginary GAF going for you?
Fantastapotamus
Wrong about commas, wrong about everything
I guess this works if you buy a lot of games you don't like
All my christmas money went to PSN this year because Nintendo decided they were above having a sale. And there's several 3DS games I really want but I got like 3 games for the price of one and they were just as high quality.
Stay losing, Nintendo.
Psychoward
Banned
Yuuup
Gravy Boat
Member
Because having to resell a game is effort. Buying them cheaper at a later date is much more preferable to most people.
I was mostly kidding but it's not a huge reach to say that many conversations about Nintendo market behaviors eventually devolve into an argument over whether they're doomed, regardless of what the original conversation was? I can't think of another topic on GAF that gets derailed more frequently.
I do like how I can buy most Nintendo games on day one and not look like an idiot when it gets a price cut within a month. I was astounded to walk into Gamestop recently and see Dead Rising 4 going for $30 a mere two weeks after release. That said, Nintendo could definitely stand to have better sales on their flagship games every now and then. Rarely do you see any of their big titles getting more than 25% off or so.
Fbh
Gold Member
Nah it's annoying.
It has made me decide to skip on some of their stuff because they don't interest me enough to spend $60 on them, and they take forever to drop in price.
And if I don't buy it at launch I will probably not buy it anytime soon. Because if I go to the store I would rather spend $60 on new games that just released and I was looking forward to instead of a 8 months old Nintendo game.
Not so with literally every other publisher. Tomb Raider comes out on Ps4 and it doesn't interest me enough to spend $60 on it? Waited a bit and got it on a sale for $30. If it was made by nintendo I'd still have to wait 2 more years.
It's also a pain in the ass when you buy one of their systems a bit later.
Buy a Sony or Ms console 2 years after launch? There are quite a lot of good games you can get in the $15-30 range.
Buy a Nintendo console 2 years after launch?
All the big games are still like $50
That said, I do think other publishers have been taking it too far recently. Seems like everything is $30-$40 within 2 weeks now. I don't even feel like buying games at launch anymore
It has made me decide to skip on some of their stuff because they don't interest me enough to spend $60 on them, and they take forever to drop in price.
And if I don't buy it at launch I will probably not buy it anytime soon. Because if I go to the store I would rather spend $60 on new games that just released and I was looking forward to instead of a 8 months old Nintendo game.
Not so with literally every other publisher. Tomb Raider comes out on Ps4 and it doesn't interest me enough to spend $60 on it? Waited a bit and got it on a sale for $30. If it was made by nintendo I'd still have to wait 2 more years.
It's also a pain in the ass when you buy one of their systems a bit later.
Buy a Sony or Ms console 2 years after launch? There are quite a lot of good games you can get in the $15-30 range.
Buy a Nintendo console 2 years after launch?
All the big games are still like $50
That said, I do think other publishers have been taking it too far recently. Seems like everything is $30-$40 within 2 weeks now. I don't even feel like buying games at launch anymore
Polygonal_Sprite
Member
I don't mind paying for quality. The big name first party Nintendo games are one of the few I still buy on day one.
Interfectum
Member
OP trying for biggest thread backfire of 2016 at the finish line. Good luck bro!
Red Liquorice
Member
Spread those cheeks, wider damn it, wider!
Chronospherics
Member
If you buy games at launch it benefits you for them to hold their value, if you buy games later and like to wait for price drops, then it doesn't. I think although day one sales are high, the majority of consumers don't buy games within their launch window.
Games holding their price is a disadvantage for more consumers than it is a benefit. Despite this, I can see how it would be different for an individual that always buys their games within that launch window, especially if you're taking advantage of trade-ins.
Games holding their price is a disadvantage for more consumers than it is a benefit. Despite this, I can see how it would be different for an individual that always buys their games within that launch window, especially if you're taking advantage of trade-ins.
IDK, on 1 side I really fucking HATE buying a game day1 to be discounted a month later.
I mean I LOVE Bloodborne but I probably could have waited a few months and buy it for way less.
The result is I probably spent more per purchase on 3DS than on PS4.
I'm not complaining I have enough games and I'm happy with my purchases but I hate the feeling of being fleeced because I want a game earlier than the market crash predicted.
I like playing with the games not with getting the games.
Take TLG or FFXV, these games I'm going to wait like a sucker till they get heavily marked down before even thinking of getting them.
I bought W101 day one and I didn't even play it.
Turns out I can't find W101 anymore because Nintendo isn't stupid in flooding the market with crap and I'll find copies of FFXV 5 years from now for cheaper than I can find some mobile games.
I mean I LOVE Bloodborne but I probably could have waited a few months and buy it for way less.
The result is I probably spent more per purchase on 3DS than on PS4.
I'm not complaining I have enough games and I'm happy with my purchases but I hate the feeling of being fleeced because I want a game earlier than the market crash predicted.
I like playing with the games not with getting the games.
Take TLG or FFXV, these games I'm going to wait like a sucker till they get heavily marked down before even thinking of getting them.
I bought W101 day one and I didn't even play it.
Turns out I can't find W101 anymore because Nintendo isn't stupid in flooding the market with crap and I'll find copies of FFXV 5 years from now for cheaper than I can find some mobile games.
Unknown Soldier
Member
Looks like OP is a bad liar in addition to a bad thread creator.
TheSpoiler
Member
Again, where are you selling them that gives you 65 bucks a pop back?
And internet rate? Do you mean interest rate? So then, you'd be waiting a longer period of time to get a very minimal amount of investment by putting five to ten dollars in a bank and letting it build?
Dude just stop.
I sure get you OP. As a consumer, I like to spend as much money as possible.
Nintendo Games are games crafted by Gods themselves, filthy kids with limited incomes should never lay hands on these magnificent pieces.
Don't have $60 for a 4 year old game? Tough luck kid. You need to love Nintendo more.
Nintendo Games are games crafted by Gods themselves, filthy kids with limited incomes should never lay hands on these magnificent pieces.
Don't have $60 for a 4 year old game? Tough luck kid. You need to love Nintendo more.
'quality' is a just a pretty buzzword when its 5 years after launch and the price is basically the same.
I REALLY want Picross 3d, but I can't pay what they're charging for it considering what ~$50CAD will get me on Steam.
Psychoward
Banned
I also just don't resell games. If you're reselling games that much why are you even buying games? Renting them would be a better consumer decision.
As someone who rarely ever returns games let's look at my two options
Option 1) With PS4 exclusives I can get a lot of highly rated games for 20 dollars and if they're particularly awful or don't work I can usually return them for a full refund within a week or in amazon's case a month
Option 2) With Nintendo I can get a highly rated, really old game for $50 but if I liked it enough to keep it after a month I'd probably never resell it but if I did I could get an extra 5 bucks from it
....
cireza
Member
I think that Nintendo is wrong. I am not the kind of person who will buy a game 60$ because I know that it will never be lower than that price.
I am ready to buy a game 40, 30 or 20$ if I feel that it is the price the game deserves to be paid depending on my tastes. This is the value perceived by me.
For example, I bought Arslan for 30$, but I would never have bought it for 60$. If KT never dropped the price, then I would have never bought this game. This is as simple as that.
I play on Nintendo consoles, but I am only moderately interested in many of their first party games. Because they never drop their prices, they never give me an incentive to buy the games. This is why even now, I have a Wii U, but I don't have Smash Bros for example. Maybe I would buy the Pokemon fighting game for 20$.
I am ready to buy a game 40, 30 or 20$ if I feel that it is the price the game deserves to be paid depending on my tastes. This is the value perceived by me.
For example, I bought Arslan for 30$, but I would never have bought it for 60$. If KT never dropped the price, then I would have never bought this game. This is as simple as that.
I play on Nintendo consoles, but I am only moderately interested in many of their first party games. Because they never drop their prices, they never give me an incentive to buy the games. This is why even now, I have a Wii U, but I don't have Smash Bros for example. Maybe I would buy the Pokemon fighting game for 20$.
Jon Carter
Member
I don't. I complain about my job not paying me fairly, I blame myself for not managing to find one that does, but complaining about the price of a luxury item that rarely drops because the product is good and people find that the price matches the value that they get out of it is silly.
Look, everything goes on sale at some point, even Nintendo games. Be patient and be wise with your money, no matter how much money you make. I almost never pay full price for things if I think it's too high, and I'm not just talking about games. Since we're on the topic of Nintendo games, though, I'll mention that I got Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze and Captain Toad Treasure Tracker on official sales, I got Super Mario 3D World and Yoshi's New Island when they were released as Nintendo Selects, and I got Mario Kart 8 + New Super Mario Bros. U for $60 when MK8 launched and Nintendo had that deal where you could get a free game. Stuff I got at full price, like Splatoon and Smash Bros. U, I think you would agree are worth every cent.
Choppasmith
Member
I'm split honestly. Yeah, I'm a Nintendo fan. No, I don't mind that they value their games to keep them high and not drop them immediately, but at the same time they are REALLY slow and sparse with Nintendo Select price drops (I remember wanting to try out Mario 64 DS a year or two ago and seeing it was STILL at least 30 dollars new.
People who always post in the eShop sale threads saying "Ugh, 'sale' " just because a game they want isn't as dirt cheap as they'd like can fuck off though.
Edit: ^Like jon carter says, some people like to make it sound like Nintendo doesn't do any kind of sale or good deal. I posted back in a similar thread as this that I was happy a game that launched at 60 was now something like 35 for a sale but people were still groaning how a "REAL" sale would be 19.99 already. I guess it's a half-full/half-empty kind of thought process. I would see such a discount as almost half off while others would see it as ONLY half off. *shrug*
People who always post in the eShop sale threads saying "Ugh, 'sale' " just because a game they want isn't as dirt cheap as they'd like can fuck off though.
Edit: ^Like jon carter says, some people like to make it sound like Nintendo doesn't do any kind of sale or good deal. I posted back in a similar thread as this that I was happy a game that launched at 60 was now something like 35 for a sale but people were still groaning how a "REAL" sale would be 19.99 already. I guess it's a half-full/half-empty kind of thought process. I would see such a discount as almost half off while others would see it as ONLY half off. *shrug*
Psychoward
Banned
Where is this mythical place?
Vital Tundra
Member
Nah, Nintendo not putting their games on sale is a bullshit move. A 5 year old game should never be full price. I shouldn't have to wait for a handful of games to become a Nintendo Select. It doesn't matter too much to me because I buy Nintendo games when they come out, and thus pay full price, but lets not act like its not bullshit.
FarFromAnyGame
Banned
Nintendo fans like everything from Nintendo...
No wonder why they are doing what they're doing.
No wonder why they are doing what they're doing.
Okami Haundo
Member
Excellent example! OP would certainly have a better argument if they weren't using a direct price comparison. Introduce the variable of personal "value" and the examples provided above aren't as black and white.
I'll fully admit that I often take advantage of the second scenario you mentioned. For me, playing certain games as soon as possible is "worth" more than the monetary and replay value lost by trading things in. In that regard, I agree with OP. It's nice to know I can buy a Nintendo game at launch and trade it in later for what I consider to be a respectable price.
Psychoward
Banned
So why are you against Nintendo having more sales then?
And if you acknowledge that Nintendo games are high quality then isn't the OP's point about reselling moot since you'll never resell Nintendo exclusives? I know I don't.