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[SmokedMeat]

No, not all. I am just saying with other publishers you have to choose between either waiting for the game price to go down or play it early by paying a premium at launch.

With Nintendo games, you can buy the game at launch, play it early or whenever you want to, and resell it at almost what you paid for it.

You don't have to choose anything. If it's a game you want to play day one then buy it day one. If it's something you're mildly curious about wait a whole two weeks for a sale price!

It sure beats the piss out of games always being fixed at a premium price! If resale value is that important to you maybe renting is a better option?

 

[Zen_Arcade]

corporations are not your friends

It's insane how many people here have to be told this.

 

[Sch1sm]

So, you got that money, eh.

 

[Iksenpets]

Would you say this about any other product? "I'm mad TVs are cheaper because it's reduced my ability to pawn my old set"?

 

[EvilMario]

As someone who doesn't sell their games, it drives me nuts. At least I can buy the games at launch, knowing that I won't be saving much waiting 6 months. I guess?

Many of my friends that are parents are inclined not to purchase Nintendo systems because of the lack of sales on the big franchises.

 

[Jonneh3003]

I see absolutely nothing wrong with what the OP said. Call it Stockholm Syndrome all you want.

I like being able to sell a game I bought a year ago for a reasonable price.

Me too, not sure why the thread is so up in arms. I'm wary of buying any game day one because of how quickly the value falls, I don't have that issue with Nintendo software. Getting your money back is always great and Nintendo reduce the price themselves with Nintendo Selects, the used game market charges what people are willing to pay.

 

[nyan]

I buy games to have fun not as a retirement investment

 

[walking fiend]

That analogy has nothing to do with your views of games being investments. Buying game A at $60, enjoying it X amount and selling it for $40 is no more an investment than buying game B for $20 dollars, enjoying it Y amount and not selling it.

Read before. I said buying other AAA games at full price doesn't make any sense. So with other AAA games I can't buy the game at lunch without worrying that I will be wasting my money.

 

[aBarreras]

it seems that everybody loves to buy a game at 60 dollars and it being at 30 next month! wheew great!

i kinda like it because, i know that if i purhcase it at launch or a year later it will be the same.

 

[SomedayTheFire]

Read before. I said buying other AAA games at full price doesn't make any sense. So with other AAA games I can't buy the game at lunch without worrying that I will be wasting my money.

Since the crux of the issue here is being able to sell games back, I can actually buy Dear Rising 4 in one shop for €32 and sell it in another for €49 cash right now 🤔

 

[walking fiend]

Would you say this about any other product? "I'm mad TVs are cheaper because it's reduced my ability to pawn my old set"?

Yeap, any kind of artsitic or cultural product: music, books, painting, movies, etc.

 

[TheOfficeMut]

Me too, not sure why the thread is so up in arms. I'm wary of buying any game day one because of how quickly the value falls, I don't have that issue with Nintendo software. Getting your money back is always great and Nintendo reduce the price themselves with Nintendo Selects, the used game market charges what people are willing to pay.

Because it's terribly stupid when it would be equally as valuable to YOU if the product was much cheaper when you bought it so that when you resell it you're not losing much.

You want to buy a game at $60 so that you could POTENTIALLY resell it for a relatively small loss months or years later? Well, why the hell wouldn't you instead want to spend LESS and buy it at $30? Sure, you'll resell it for less but you already immediately saved $30. You're not even guaranteed to get that money in the former example.

 

[leatherhat]

I can't calculate how much money Nintendo has lost after all the times I got interested in an older nintendo game, looked it up, and then didn't buy it since it was still 50 or 60 bucks. Just happened with Hyrule Warriors WiiU last week.

 

[AHA-Lambda]

Stockholm Syndrome: Nintendo Edition

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[ViewtifulJC]

damn we moneyhatting GAF users now, aint that bout a bitch

 

[Jon Carter]

I hope you never have to subsist on minimum wage and weigh entertainment budget against medical expenses, warmth, rent, bills, or food, you miserable asshole.

I actually make less than what the minimum wage will be in my state pretty soon. I have a wife, two dogs, rent and bills to pay. I just don't buy games unless I have the money and don't complain when luxury products stay the same price other than for the occasional sale or budget edition.

 

[Hero Prinny]

I love spending full price on a game that came out 2 or more years ago too op, glad im not the only one.

 

[Velcro Fly]

I think in the short term it is okay. After 18-24 months it is okay to drop the price.

I think in the long term it is harmful.

Look at all the great first party titles on the Wii U. How many of them that released prior to 2016 are still selling at full price? There are quite a few great games on Selects and others that are $30. I think Nintendo did better this time but it is because the Wii U was dead/dying.

And I think their digital pricing needs to be better too.

Saying it is an investment is the wrong term. It isn't even an investment buying a community driven game like Smash or Mario Maker day 1.

 

[stump sock]

Reggie & co. very much are, everyone is your buddy on the treehouse!

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[Spieler Eins]

I agree OP. The only problem I have is Nintendo releases their games too cheap at launch. $60 for a Zelda, Mario, Pikmin game is just way to cheap. They're leaving money on the table. Should be closer to $250. When you buy Nintendo you know you're buying the top of the line product (gameplay) and the price should correlate with that.

The fact that they sometimes don't have major releases for half a year really shows how valuable and special Nintendo games are. When they come out it's like an event, there's no reason the prices should be any less than let's say tickets worth a week at some festival.

 

[TheSpoiler]

Yo getting back five dollars after seven months or so sure is a worthwhile investment

 

[Zaraki_Kenpachi]

This may be the most embarrassingly stupid corporate apologist/fanboy denial I've read in years.

 

[Zen_Arcade]

Me too, not sure why the thread is so up in arms. I'm wary of buying any game day one because of how quickly the value falls, I don't have that issue with Nintendo software. Getting your money back is always great and Nintendo reduce the price themselves with Nintendo Selects, the used game market charges what people are willing to pay.

Because the ability to resell for a high price isn't worth the trade off of every game, regardless of quality, never dropping below retail price.

Most people are smart enough to not treat mass produced products as an investment first purchase.

 

[Kouriozan]

3DS games are 33€ and Wii U are at 39€ on Amazon.fr
I'm absolutely fine with that standard price since I pre-order almost all my games.

 

[walking fiend]

Because it's terribly stupid logic when it would be equally as valuable to YOU if the product was much cheaper when you bought it so that when you resell it you're not losing much.

You want to buy a game at $60 so that you could POTENTIALLY resell it for a relatively small loss months or years later? Well, why the hell wouldn't you instead want to spend LESS and buy it at $30? Sure, you'll resell it for less but you already immediately saved $30. You're not even guaranteed to get that money in the former example.

Stop yelling and improve your reading comprehension. As I said multiple times already, with other games you are forced to make a decision: a. Play the game at launch and lose money b. Save money by waiting for the game to go into bargain bin. With Nintendo games, you can buy the games at lunch, play them and later resell them.

 

[TheOfficeMut]

I actually make less than what the minimum wage will be in my state pretty soon. I have a wife, two dogs, rent and bills to pay. I just don't buy games unless I have the money and don't complain when luxury products stay the same price other than for the occasional sale or budget edition.

So you never complain about price when buying gifts for family or friends, right?

 

[30yearsofhurt]

You should post your ideas here: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=749978

 

[Unknown Soldier]

As a consumer, I like paying less for things with my discretionary income. But you do you, someone's gotta feel sorry for and support their corporate overlords!

 

[Jinfash]

How about spending less money on videogames and invest the savings in something non-gaming-related with a higher/more secure ROI?

 

[Alienous]

Selling the odd game you decide not to keep for $20 more than other games.

Getting a ton of games $20 cheaper.

 

[13ruce]

This is only true for some Mario and Zelda games.

 

[Purple Cheeto]

This is some weird kind of corporate fanboyism/astroturfing.

 

[etking]

There is absolutely no policy. Prices are just made by public demand and can be seen as an indicator for extraordinary game and brand quality, even though the average Nintendo game quality decreased a lot during the last years.

 

[walking fiend]

This may be the most embarrassingly stupid corporate apologist/fanboy denial I've read in years.

Well, I am okay with not paying $60 for games that go down to $15 in a month. If that makes me a corporate apologist, that must be a good thing

There is absolutely no policy. Prices are just made by public demand and can be seen as an indicator for extraordinary game and brand quality, even though the average Nintendo game quality decreased a lot during the last years.

Not really. The supply is set by Nintendo through the digital price of the games and number of the copies they ship. It is definitely their policy to maintain the price of the games.

 

[Glass Rebel]

I'd rather just have cheap games breh.

 

[BasilZero]

corporations are not your friends

This so much.

It's amazing people think otherwise.

 

[Enduin]

I respect the notion that they view their games as being worth the original sale price beyond the first couple months. But I wish that price was lower.

I'd be much happier if games in general had a lower initial price point but maintained that pricing for much longer. If games were 30-40 at release and kept that price for years to come I'd be OK with that. But seeing a game that was 60 drop down to 20-30 after half a year is really weird.

The industry standard of making or breaking in terms of sales/revenue to just the first couple weeks/months if lucky is a really poor practice that limits the kinds of games and experiences we get and does not seem healthy for the industry overall. At the same time it's a situation that is fueled as much by consumer's habits as it is by their sales practices. Marketing ain't free and consumer's attention span is short for the most part. So current situation isn't likely to change.

 

[Hypron]

I buy all my games digital and never resell them so I really don't like it.

How about spending less money on videogames and invest the savings in something non-gaming-related with a higher/more secure ROI?

This too.

 

[Alucrid]

i'm right there with you OP. i have in storage 100 Wii Us that i consider to be my retirement fund. come 2050 people are going to be DYING to have a Wii U and the price will only go up. definitely the best investment i've made if i may say so myself

 

[NeonBlack]

How about spending less money on videogames and invest the savings in something non-gaming-related with a higher/more secure ROI?

You can't double jump with bonds.

i'm right there with you OP. i have in storage 100 Wii Us that i consider to be my retirement fund. come 2050 people are going to be DYING to have a Wii U and the price will only go up. definitely the best investment i've made if i may say so myself

In 10 years, these virtual boys I hoarded are gonna make me rich.

 

[Gator86]

]I don't care about video games as an investment, but it is so weird how people are upset at Nintendo for, basically, making games that have value.[/B] It seems most people have been conditioned by the shaky economics of the big 3rd party publishers and expect all games to be 20 bucks six months after release.

There are AAA games that do not lose all their value in just a few months though. The GTA games are a prime example of stuff that doesn't end up in the bargin bin even a year later.

I realize some say they won't buy Nintendo games because they're never discounted to fire sale prices. However Nintendo titles that flop commercially do get discounted, generally. Meanwhile, there are evidently enough people who think Smash or Mario Kart are worth the money that Nintendo doesn't have to quickly drop the price to be happy with their performance.

I mean it's just economics? There are people in this thread that sound personally offended Nintendo won't let them buy new hardware and new games for pennies just because they'd like it.

Nintendo games don't have more value by virtue of quality or being Nintendo games. There's just no avenue to get them cheaper. Stuff like GTA maintains its price because it's still murdering everything out there in the market. WiiU launch games and shit like that aren't moving anything, yet remain just as expensive in many cases. Nintendo's refusal to ever drop prices and the low number of shipped products from their conservative business strategy keeps the price up.

And I doubt anyone is personally offended by the price of Nintendo products. As a consumer, who doesn't want the best deal? Nintendo rarely offers the best deal so people should be negative towards them. Nintendo isn't my friend. It's not my job to give a shit about their bottom line or Reggie's job security.

 

[SmokedMeat]

Read before. I said buying other AAA games at full price doesn't make any sense. So with other AAA games I can't buy the game at lunch without worrying that I will be wasting my money.

Every single AAA game released over the holidays has been on sale for 50% off the full retail price. Most if not all can be traded or sold to fully recoup that $30.

I don't get this unfounded fear of "wasting" your money?

 

[walking fiend]

This so much.

It's amazing people think otherwise.

It is amazing that you believe the alternative strategy by other developers which people are defending is not a corporate policy. I hope you understand saying that I am wrong is basically saying that you defend other publishers policy.

Every single AAA game released over the holidays has been on sale for 50% off the full retail price. Most if not all can be traded or sold to fully recoup that $30.

I don't get this unfounded fear of "wasting" your money?

Case in point: don't buy games at full price.

 

[TheOfficeMut]

Stop yelling and improve your reading comprehension. As I said multiple times already, with other games you are forced to make a decision: a. Play the game at launch and lose money b. Save money by waiting for the game to go into bargain bin. With Nintendo games, you can buy the games at lunch, play them and later resell them.

I'm not going to excuse your reasoning for wanting Nintendo games to remain a high price so that you resell them for relatively little loss because you can't help but to buy things at launch.

The people waiting a few weeks or months are making the better "investment" than you are with non-Nintendo AAA games because they're spending less money upfront. Yes, you may get your money back should you choose to resell a Nintendo game but you're still out more money than the person who bought that hastily reduced AAA game.

And as I already iterated why won't you advocate for cheaper Nintendo games out the gate if you're so concerned about pricing?

 

[Deleted member 752119]

I'd rather just have cheap games breh.

This.

What a sad example of corporate loyalty/fanboyism. Nintendo fanboys honestly make me like the company less. Sony and MS fanboys are obnoxious too, but Nintendo's take the cake for absurd levels of loyalty and apologism.

Personally I detest corporations, have no loyalty to any and only begrudgingly give them as little of my money as possible.

 

[Azuran]

I understand why Nintendo games retain their original prices for so long, but people don't have to like it. It's ridiculous that consumers, the same people corporations love to fucked over at any given chance, even have to try and justify them their practices. You seriously see some of the worst and most embarrassing apologists known to man when it comes to Nintendo.

"Investment"

You're buying games not playing the stock market LMAO

 

[Toad.T]

corporations are not your friends

That's not true. Just last week I was invited to the wedding of Ford and Mitsubishi. Why would they invite me if I wasn't their friend?

 

[Maintenance]

Not everyone is sane like you, OP. Keep fighting the good fight.

 

[ElectricBlanketFire]

Stop yelling and improve your reading comprehension. As I said multiple times already, with other games you are forced to make a decision: a. Play the game at launch and lose money b. Save money by waiting for the game to go into bargain bin. With Nintendo games, you can buy the games at lunch, play them and later resell them.

With other platforms you can buy the game AND lunch.

 

[WipedOut]

My reasoning, in short, is that I can consider buying Nintendo games as a kind of investment. If I buy a game and don't like it, or don't want to keep it, I can resell it for a reasonable price. Investing into AAA gaming on other platforms out of sale is basically just paying a premium fee to get the games early, as it has become a policy for most other developers to eventually reduce the price of the game to a bargain.