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This is the main reason I didn't buy a WiiU. I'm on the fence with the Switch, but it's hard to justify buying one when I have a massive backlog of cheap digital PS4 games.
As a consumer, I like Nintendo's policy to maintain games' prices
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Feeroper
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I don't think there is anything wrong with waiting for a cheaper price. After all, the market will dictate what works and what doesn't. So if the industry starts to buckle, the solution isn't that everyone should get out and pay full price to keep it alive. Some people just don't have the means to do that and have to pick and choose what games they can justify.
I don't pretend to have a definitive solution to this predicament outside of studios and publishers finding another way to make games that is more financially feasible, or to add enough value into the title that people will want to come out day one for full price (those that can). I know this has led to freemium games of questionable quality and a rush of shovel-ware, or even the ultimate closure or reorganized priorities of the studios that cant find a way to survive, but that is just the reality of the situation these days. Nintendo can afford to keep many of their games at top dollar as fans will pay for it, and quite honestly they often put out very strong stuff (ymmv), but they are more the exception.
Personally, I'm lucky enough that I can justify buying games day one at full price, so I do when I can. However I completely understand why others don't want to. I don't think the industry will vanish though, as I think gaming is a major part of our culture now. It will just continue to adapt to the realities of the market as time moves on, and hopefully it will retain that appeal that most of us have for the hobby.
A.Romero
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Independently of if I can pay launch pricing or not, I rather have as many people access these productions. I know it's a luxury as it is, even with sale prices, but if they costed $60 USD all the time even less people would be able to afford it.
I think it is better as it is. Expensive at the beginning so people who can pay it do so and sustain the industry and cheaper over time for the rest of us mortals.
I think it is better as it is. Expensive at the beginning so people who can pay it do so and sustain the industry and cheaper over time for the rest of us mortals.
TheSpoiler
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Man you keep adding weird things to this story. You didn't pay for your Nintendo games suddenly after people called you out? Lmao what?
It's a bad practice. Different people value products differently. Many people dont like to wait so they buy games, consoles, smartphones etc on launch at a premium price. Prices go down because other people don't want to spend as much as the launch price. But they are willing to buy it at a smaller price. That way the corporation is able to maximize the sales at the highest price the consumer is willing to pay. That's economics 101.
Basically, by keeping the prices steady for years Nintendo loses on retail sales.
Basically, by keeping the prices steady for years Nintendo loses on retail sales.
walking fiend
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Merely the fact that you have spent money on a massive backlog that you will probably never go through should be a sign to you why games going on sale is mostly to make consumers pay money for things they probably won't ever use
I'll sell them for what I paid for them. Excluding the money that I would have made from the internet rate I get from the bank, I really haven't paid for them.
dragonyeuw
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It's not the right term in this instance. Nobody buys a newly mass-produced $60 game with any expectation of making money on it. Now, if I was at a garage sale and stumbled upon a box of SNES RPGS and first party titles for $10, that could be seen as an investment based on current market conditions, if the intent is to sell them at major profit like your typical reseller.
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Gaiaknight
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i would complain about nintendo's prices but after selling my sealed fire emblem game collection and getting a very very nice chunk of money im a very happy person.
KeepersDome
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Maybe Nintendo would have sold a few more Wii U if after buying them people didn't have to spend full price ($60) for 2-3 year old games for it.
So what, you got them as gifts? How are you a consumer if you don't buy the product?
DeathoftheEndless
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First of all, its not a policy since Nintendo isn't the one setting prices (for retail versions). Second of all, its only a good value to someone who resells games very frequently.
I appreciate that their games retain some value instead of race to the bottom as it was with steam sales.
However, sales also help people to pick games they would have otherwise ignored. Nintendo doesn't even offer half price for their backlog catalog of titles. If they did it from time to time, I probably would have far more Wii U games than I currently have now.
However, sales also help people to pick games they would have otherwise ignored. Nintendo doesn't even offer half price for their backlog catalog of titles. If they did it from time to time, I probably would have far more Wii U games than I currently have now.
JigglesBunny
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Nintendo games are kept at high prices because they don't produce as many copies as they should. Underproduction is Nintendo's bag. Digital game prices are kept in step with their physical prices because why not, you'll pay it if you want the game bad enough.
There is literally zero upside for the consumer for the shit they pull with their limited production nonsense.
There is literally zero upside for the consumer for the shit they pull with their limited production nonsense.
Also, this.
Zen_Arcade
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Yeah, they defend it because it benefits them in a very measurable way. We know they don't drop the price because they're our friends, but we defend it because regardless of why they do it, it benefits us.
You mean benefits those who buy physical only and intend to resell those games later. For a lot of people who are probably all digital and do a lot of purchasing during flash sales and such, Nintendo offers laughable value.
MDSLKTR
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Buckle up, the crazy is in full swing now until the switch bombs somewhere.
Sho_Nuff82
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As a consumer, I like loading up on cheap games that I would otherwise never try during Steam sales.
And I can't even sell most of those.
And I can't even sell most of those.
walking fiend
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Exactly my point. If you can sell what you have bought for what you paid for it, it means by definition that you are not consuming your purchase. That is the whole basis of my argument, that buying Nintendo games, compared to other games, is relative a type of investment
Yeah, if you are into buying games digital for whatever reason, Nintendo sucks for you.
God Dayumm
Banned
It is no secret that this forum has a toxic Sony bias. Yet it is fellow Nintendo fanboys who always say the most embarassing things.
TheOfficeMut
Unconfirmed Member
LMAO you're not even concerned about saving money you spent because you don't spend shit to begin with. You're simply looking to turn the biggest profit, which itself is not a problem but considering the basis for this thread, that's some hilarious shit.
Now I see why you came out the gate calling this an investment. Well let me make something clear for you: for the majority of people looking to purchase games with their own money it is in their best interest to buy them as cheap as possible. Whether they choose to spend more is on them.
Zen_Arcade
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You're still buying them even if you resell them. You can tell because if you ever have to sell a Nintendo game for sub $60 you're losing out on money.
Being able to resell something doesn't mean that you magically didn't pay for it in the first place. You're still a consumer even if you can off load the product after you're done with it.
Kirye
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Right, so Nintendo benefits a fairly niche set of people. Those who want a game day one, who also sell their games once they're done with them. If you're fine waiting a month or two, PS4/X1 used is extremely cheap.
EDIT: Also yes if you buy digital then Nintendo kind of sucks in that regard. I'm not completely defending Nintendo, just looking at the argument objectively.
But what if I'm buying used, or a remaster? How am I benefiting? Or if I don't sell my games?
TheSpoiler
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I think OP got exposed and now has to cover his ass by saying he doesn't buy them.
Unknown One
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Hahaha a lot of Nintendo fans crack me up with their logic.
NormalFish
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It's really telling that OPs go to metaphor is cars.
Keeping prices up makes sense to a point, I certainly think a lot of publishers are a bit over-aggressive about price slashes. It's a self-defeating trend, people see enough games they bought at $60 get slashed in half a month or two later, they start asking themselves why they should keep buying at release.
But yeah, like I said, to a point. Game's been out a year, two years, three years, it shouldn't be going for close to original retail. I'd like to get NSMBU, but fuuuuuck paying $60 for a launch game for a system at the end of its life.
But yeah, like I said, to a point. Game's been out a year, two years, three years, it shouldn't be going for close to original retail. I'd like to get NSMBU, but fuuuuuck paying $60 for a launch game for a system at the end of its life.
God Dayumm
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Which makes no sense. How would Nintendo games be a good investment for his mom or whoever pays?
TheOfficeMut
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I don't even think he's covering his ass. Saying he gets Nintendo games as gifts only makes our arguments stronger, the ones centered around saving the most money off the bat.
Backlogger
Member
If you can even find it because Nintendo didn't make enough of them
Well its on the costumer to decide from themselves if they find a game valuable or not, and its ultimately the company's job to ensure that they have a good value proposition for costumers to pay full price on their games. Companies also should know to balance their budgets properly and try to not have a fixed price on games. I don't know at what price did Mario Tennis Wii U came out for retail ($50?) but that thing should have been $29.99 and even going by what I've seen of the game it seems like that would still have been a though value proposition for costumers. Then again is Mario, and I don't know how much it sold, probably the name alone carried some sales.
SomedayTheFire
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No it's not. Do you know what an investment is?
KiefbladeMaster
Member
I like getting discounted new releases weeks after they come out, OP, thanks though.
Let us know how your 'investments' work out. As other people have pointed out, those are for a specific few titles with cult followings, not every single game Ninty releases.
Let us know how your 'investments' work out. As other people have pointed out, those are for a specific few titles with cult followings, not every single game Ninty releases.
Tommi84
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There's a number of games for 3DS that I have never and probably will never buy because of this. I know I'm not the only one. Nintento allowing the prices so high all the time is not them saving money or helping sellers, it's actually loosing $$$ from people like me. As you wish, Nintento, as you wish.
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unless you're selling the game back to nintendo, i'm pretty sure this isn't true.
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I get it slightly from a reseller point of view as they're seeing it as not being able to sell the game for as close to what they paid for it.
Where it doesn't make sense is that it's not like the AAA games that drop in price a few weeks after launch all stay down or lose their resell value.
Especially with GCU I can do things like grab Dishonored 2 for $28, beat it and sell it for $35ish after fees etc. As well as paying a lot less for the games I want to keep, which you can't do with Nintendo games that rarely go on sale.
legacyzero
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Fuck no. There's no reason for it. Games like Mario Kart 8 shouldn't be $60 2 or 3 years after release. Especially for a console already on its death bed. And it's that kind of stubborn mentality that has Nintendo circling the drain IMO.
TheOfficeMut
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Sounds to me like the OP would consider 0% bonds a good investment so long as he comes out dead even as when he bought them years ago.
geordiemp
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How is it impressive, I am curious.
If Nintendo distribution sells it to the shops for 40 bucks, and the shop have staff to pay, its going to be near 60 bucks.
The shop cannot discount the game until the shop gets it cheaper from a distributor. This applies to every game in the shop.
Distributors and publishers can charge what the like for games, its up to the public if they are worth their cash.
It's not the only reason but yes Nintendo's pricing policies have long been a very big deterrent to me for buying thier hardware.
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