SE saved it after Activision dropped it.
Scalebound cancelled [Platinum Games and Kamiya have commented]
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To your last point. Power does sell systems at all. It's pricing. If that's what MS feels will put them over the top then their priorities are fucked.
It's not that crazy to think that Kamiya was having trouble finding the fun in the Scalebound concept. Going by interviews and his track record, it's kind of a persistent thing with him. His first attempt at RE2 had to be scrapped and rebooted after a year and a half of development, and Devil May Cry arose from a failed RE4 prototype. The VFX powers that basically made Viewtiful Joe what it was came about after Atsushi Inaba forced the team to spend a weekend getting their shit together because they weren't making a fun game. The Wonderful 101 took ages to come together properly, to the point that The Multi Unite Morph was a feature added three months before the game shipped.
Kamiya described his development process in Iwata Asks:
So I wouldn't be surprised if Scalebound was still in a state where it wasn't particularly good. That being said, the reason I still had faith in the project, despite the poor public showings, was because Kamiya has consistently been able to push through, find something fun, and turn those projects into something cool.
Beyond Twitter rumors, my instinct is to blame Microsoft because I'm biased towards Platinum, but also because they've canceled a bunch of previously-announced projects as of late. Nobody wants (or should want) a game to be canceled, and titles that have been officially announced get released more often than not. So if Microsoft is doing this repeatedly to games relatively deep into development that they've shown publicly, it seems more likely that the problem lies with them, instead of being an unlucky string of coincidences.
Kamiya described his development process in Iwata Asks:
So I wouldn't be surprised if Scalebound was still in a state where it wasn't particularly good. That being said, the reason I still had faith in the project, despite the poor public showings, was because Kamiya has consistently been able to push through, find something fun, and turn those projects into something cool.
Beyond Twitter rumors, my instinct is to blame Microsoft because I'm biased towards Platinum, but also because they've canceled a bunch of previously-announced projects as of late. Nobody wants (or should want) a game to be canceled, and titles that have been officially announced get released more often than not. So if Microsoft is doing this repeatedly to games relatively deep into development that they've shown publicly, it seems more likely that the problem lies with them, instead of being an unlucky string of coincidences.
They are working with Square on that and would like to make it for the Xbone. I don't think Square is going to have any of that however.
They are likely going to stick with Nintendo. Maybe few smaller titles.
Vegetable Lasagna
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Crackdown 3, which is all I personally care about. I'm saving my "flip the shit out" moment just in case I need it for that one.
Nier Automata?
That is a SE ip and it's SE decision.
From last gen to now what games do you see from platinum that is actually published by Sony as a exclusive? None.
illmatic22
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lol. Why would they say no to more work?
Have you played the game ?
Its obsessively polished across 4 platforms,has extremely high production values ,and took a long ass time to make.
Yeah 90 million is probably an underestimation.
Neither was Scalebound if PC enters the mix.
Fair enough.
Tangentially, just a lot of piling on. I get the concern but I love the Xbox stable of games and I'm not the only one if sales are to be believed. There are millions of us. (Not dozens!) I see a lot of "Xbox Community is upset" but are we really? I'm sure there are a few that bought the One for this game and I'm sure a disproportionately large amount of them post on GAF, so it is to be expected, I suppose. Plus the people who are concern trolling, of course.
I guess I'm saying I don't really mind the direction MS is going because they continue to cater to my tastes. If this is what Microsoft getting out of the business feels like, keep it up. I'm very satisfied.
TheWasTheJoke
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nooooooooooooooo
all i love is worldbuilding and scalebound looked promising
fuck wow
all i love is worldbuilding and scalebound looked promising
fuck wow
Square picked it up after Activision dropped it.
Is there any Japanese pub that Sony is not on good terms with at the moment?
Guess Sony's just gonna have to settle for Nier:Automata.
Yes! MGSV was my GOTY of 2015. Superb game.
It reportedly cost 80 million to make, you can probably add in another 20-30 million for FOX Engine though?
I think it's amazing what they accomplished with that budget.
SneakersSO
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Sorry, console exclusive.
Spyder_Monkey
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To reiterate:
I don't understand how you think MS can have three high profile cancellations this gen when the competition had none and still think it's not MS's fault.
They would but not Kamiya lol.
Well so far they just said Xbox One Version isn't "ruled out"
IceBringer
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If it was halobound I'd actually want it
Okay so you're an Xbox fan who is really upset that people are saying anything negative about MS because you're very happy with your console and the lineup? That's great. What does that have to do with a thread where a game from a celebrated developer has been cancelled? Nothing. You're happy, cool. Now unless you have something to add to this thread, I think you're done here?
What are you talking about?
I feel like MS should've give Platinum abit more time.
I mean it's a new IP, open world, action RPG game with dynamic dragon and human action with drop-in-n-out multiplayer is ambitious as hell, and MS pulled out just after 3 years. Horizon Zero Dawn was in development longer than that and Guerilla is a bigger studio than Platinum.
I mean it's a new IP, open world, action RPG game with dynamic dragon and human action with drop-in-n-out multiplayer is ambitious as hell, and MS pulled out just after 3 years. Horizon Zero Dawn was in development longer than that and Guerilla is a bigger studio than Platinum.
WhiskerFrisker
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This will approach 6,000 replies in less than a day. That is quite insane. I feel bad for Kamiya because judging from this thread, he really wanted to make this game.
chillybright
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Holy fuck this thread is long.
I wasn't following this game closely. Why is this news such a big deal?
I wasn't following this game closely. Why is this news such a big deal?
FunkyPajamas
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Yeah, I feel like I'm missing something. Is there a reason why Kamiya wouldn't want to work with Sony? post-Capcom fallout or something?
It's a slow month news-wise so this is basically the biggest news of the year. Also, Platinum Games is a GAF darling so there's a lot of attention on whatever happens to them.
Platinum plans on releasing their own new IP by 2020. No idea who the publisher would be but they must've found someone since they said they made their first steps toward that new IP in 2016.
I guess so. Sorry if I've offended you in some way. My word.
Well, if we want to operate in the murky territory a little, Sony Santa Monica did cancel an unrevealed internal project led by Stig Asmussen at around the start of this generation. From the little we know of it, it was a huge money sink that missed several deadlines.
Remind of something else?
RiccochetJ
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Were these devs going to lose their job after the game was originally supposed to be done in 2016?
wild wild rice
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Does Phil eat shit?
Doug Heffernan
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There was no way for Microsoft to win in this situation...
It was either release a game with a terrible frame rate due to engine issues and deal with the negative reviews...
Or cancel the game and avoid the negative reviews but then take the heat for canceling the project.
Ultimately it seems like they made the right move. They had all the time in the world to fix that frame rate.
It was either release a game with a terrible frame rate due to engine issues and deal with the negative reviews...
Or cancel the game and avoid the negative reviews but then take the heat for canceling the project.
Ultimately it seems like they made the right move. They had all the time in the world to fix that frame rate.
LukasTaves
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This is truly an unfair world.
Ninja Scooter
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Based on what we know (i.e. nothing) it's impossible to come to this conclusion. The game could have been a complete mess.
Personal taste aside, not really. Every game he has made has been critcally acclaimed except for W101 which has a high 70 on MC.
Don't think so, its not like Kamiya has even made some statements against Sony in anyway.
Nightengale
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Or if rumours are true, scale the game's design ambition down, by removing features that impact the game's ability to run on XB1.
It was not publically revealed. Though Sony still has many chances to do the same with their early announced games too. But as of right now that have not canceled revealed games yet (they have broken ties with a couple indie games though)
DriftingSpirit
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lol
gundamkyoukai
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It's big for many reasons .
A first party AAA game that was show off for years don't normal get cancel .
People care about the devs .
Another in the long line of MS having problems with games this gen .
Wondering why it was cancel and few more other things .
Japanmanx3
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Yooooooooooo!!!! I just saw this!!! Good grief Microsoft! Oh man. Admittedly, Scalebound looked really struggle for a while tho. Did not expect outright cancellation tho. Platinum should just stick with Ninty and Sony from now on.
Spyder_Monkey
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What happened at SSM (layoffs and all that) sucked but it's really not the same. Also 1 cancellation of an unannounced game for Sony while Microsoft has had 3 announced games get cancelled plus more we're not even aware of.
Might as well be ruled out at this point.
I will take an avatar bet on this never happening. Not a Sony first party game. Never ever, never.
It was also never shown to the public at all.
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