Voice chat on the Switch will consist of a paid app on "smart" devices (your phone)

Everything is getting put behind a paywall now, this is absurd. Why on earth do we need smart devices to use voice chat in our game system??
 
Wait a minute....

If you voice chat over the phone with a headset, how do you listen to the game? Does the app output also the game's sound? That can't be...

So do you just use the phone's microphone then and then hear your friends over the phone's speaker? That can't be either...

How does this work??

I'm wondering the same thing actually. The phone mic will record the game music and that would make this chat pointless to me.

Not to mention that i would then miss the game own music and sound

#confused
 
OK Holy shit guys


At 1:05 on the Trailer Exactly!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5uik5fgIaI

3 Bands on the connector

Typical stereo only cords have 2 bands

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Yes you can see three yellow bands, what is the difference though?
 
Honestly, this is a really good idea. I bet that Sony will implement something similar soon, and Microsoft already has it planned.

What ISN'T a good idea is having this be the only option for voice chat.
 
It's Reggie. He has always used ridiculous analogies constructed to fool the most uninformed mainstream listener. As much as I like the guy's personality, he's a serious bullshit artist as a PR man. (Even by PR standards.)

Btw, I can even see some of the logic behind the smartphone system. It doesn't excuse lack of built-in OS features like voice chat. But "flow" Nintendo intends sounds something like this:

1. Your phone is always on you. Nintendo Network app is always online.

2. You leave the house, grab the switch, and put it in a bag.

3. Friend messages, matchmaking, and text / voice chat continues without having to turn the Switch on, thanks to the phone.

4. When you're ready to play a game, you pull out the Switch, wake it, and you're already in a party or lobby, already in matchmaking, etc.

5. Finish game, sleep the Switch, go on your way, and the social / chat side of things isn't interrupted.

There's some good stuff here, given how common smartphones are today. And how people are used to always being in contact with friends on the phone. It's similar to what other companies have been deploying, such as Smartglass.

The only problem is that when using the Switch in a more traditional way, such as in console mode at home, having the phone by you with headphones plugged in for game chat isn't natural. Here is where the system either needs speaker chat - like the PS4 camera mic - or a headphone jack in the pro controller. This is where Nintendo has done things badly.

Those things on the phone are nice to have, like they are with the PS4 and XB1 phone apps, but they aren't supposed to REPLACE that functionality on your console!
 
I bet that Sony will implement something similar soon, and Microsoft already has it planned.

I don't see why they would. Like mentioned several times Discord/Skype and other social apps exist for free that others use for private chat groups. All else is in the case of MS/Sony is system level.
 
They really want their shit on your phone don't they?

I said it before but it's like every time Nintendo succeeds they learn the wrong lessons.

Wii was a success? Fuck the hardcore gamers, we struck gold! What could possibly go wrong now that we have this loyal customer base?

Pokemon GO was a success? Oh Boy, better go balls deep in this smart phone stuff, people love that, let's gimp our console so that only the phone works for some of the stuff, genius.
 
That's giving them a lot of credit, which they have very much yet to earn
I'm just trying to make sense of what is looking like an incredibly dumb move on their part.

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I still want to know how the hell you even use headphones when the Switch is docked. The Joy grips and pro controller apparently lack headphone jacks. Since I've gotten my headset, I don't like using my speakers anymore because my headset sounds much better.

Will I have to have a long ass aux cord plugged into the Switch while it's docked? That's just an accidental waiting to happen. Does the Switch even have its own microphone? How the hell do you hear game audio when chatting if you have to use your phone for that and not have everything come out of my phone's tiny ass speaker?

Nintendo needs to answer these questions before March 3rd.
 
Honestly, this is a really good idea. I bet that Sony will implement something similar soon, and Microsoft already has it planned.

What ISN'T a good idea is having this be the only option for voice chat.

You speak like this is some kinds of innovation. There is a Discord on the phone for a reason and it's free.
 
I'm really hoping matchmaking and messaging and friendlists are still possible on the console itself, because my phone is a (by modern standards) piece of shit.
 
Yup, like maybe they could even have attempted something like this... Eh Nintendo? http://blog.us.playstation.com/2013/10/30/ps4-the-ultimate-faq-north-america/

Nah fam, mass confusion and marketing blunders galore.

I have said something similar to this the whole way through since Nintendo announced the Switch, they seem to (must have) thought it a good idea to keep people talking and speculating about the Switch, but its backfired because of the no news any leak or tit-bit it investigated in the minutest detail using a scanning electron microscope so powerful it can see an individual particle of dust on Pluto's moon Charon from Earth, but this has just caused wild speculation, hyping some people up into the stratosphere and others and others hating on the Switch/Nintendo until they have exploded in rage and neither was right, the best thing Nintendo could have done was not reveal anything at all until the other day, and I know this is going off topic (and I apologise) but there is still no actual spec.

Nintendo have just let the speculation run wild and now nobody knows what to believe as they have not helped in the reveal the other day, they just want to let everybody fend for themselves.
 
looks like


NinGAF will be stuck using discord still as it will allow all of us to use any fucking device we want.


This design decision is absolutely the dumbest one and amazes me

How the fuck is Nintendo still so god damn disconnected from modern tech and design of the world? I could understand it for WiiU as party chat even that was still scarce but after the release of the PS4 and Xbox One where party chat is used nearly every day by millions through the console itself.

Your fucking stupid (Nintendo that is.....not you Yautja)

Lol yeah it really is puzzling, because it looks they have made a decent console and then surrounded it with bad idea's, that are going to hurt it.
 
I wonder if Nintendo will just allow Bluetooth headsets. That would resolve a lot of issues with docking/undocking/etc...
 
Fine by me, I already use discord on my phone when playing online with friends on PC since it is on my living room.
It all depends on how good the app will be really.
 
If Nintendo can't even make voice chat native to the damn console then they are so out of touch.

It's clearly a deliberate choice to do it this way, not some technical deficiency. My guess is to protect children and their image as a family friendly company by requiring some hoops that kids wouldn't be able to jump through.
 
It is like I am in a surrealistic nightmare...

Why Nintendo, why?

What is my $400 CND getting me?


Well here's why. Nintendo made a console with a big tablet controller. The console didn't do so well with some complaints like "I have a real tablet, why do I want a tablet which is tied to this box?"

So Nintendo is working on this new thing and the controller has all kinds of tricks like some new rumble, depth sensors, gyro sensors etc and costs are getting high for just the controller.
They also have the problem of adding a 3.5 jack to a controller for all the configurations they have in mind. Nightmare. So someone said "The peons have tablets. Let them use them for voice chat." Boom. Here we are today.
 
There has to be a Direct regarding this soon. There are way to many unknowns here. Even if their plans change over the next few months there needs to be some basic information before people actually pick up the system on March 3rd.
 
So if you have to use a smart phone app to have voice chat on the switch... Then can you listen to the game music and talk to your friends at the same time? How?
 
Stupid question but maybe for Nintendo it's easier to make phone apps than build on the system OS? Maybe for them it's easier to hire app devs? OS needs time to mature so right now it's phone apps to cover the time and missing functionality.
 
So if you have to use a smart phone app to have voice chat on the switch... Then can you listen to the game music and talk to your friends at the same time? How?

Haven't read through the entire thread...has this been answered earlier? Would they have a way to transmit game sound quickly to the phone while playing so that it all comes through the same app without a delay?
 
Regardless of how unlikely that is... super legitimate point :/

The vast majority I'd imagine of kids under the age of like 12. I'd hope at least. Post 12 I feel like every teen pretty much has one.

It isnt a good idea.

Additional platform options for your chat is always a good option. Discord is great on PC because I can continue chatting on the road with my friends, or at lunch etc. While they are on PC via my phone.
 
Great idea, it'll be fun seeing what dies first, my phone or the switch lmao

You will have to carry around multiple charging cords and will have to hog all the charge spots.

Honestly though are they really expecting people that want to play with friends to have a phone on as well. The only way I can think of that you will get chat and game sound is that you get chat through the headphones and game sound goes through the tv or switch itself. Whoever came up with this idea must of been drunk on something.
 
OK Holy shit guys


At 1:05 on the Trailer Exactly!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5uik5fgIaI

3 Bands on the connector

Typical stereo only cords have 2 bands
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so sorry
was confusing me greatly. Watched the video and grabbed a pic.
Yeah, that's a 4 post connection (L/R/M<->G).
The app has to be a workaround for players that will be sitting too far from the television when the unit is docked and not having headset support on the controllers.
Makes me wonder if they'd send all game audio through the app because otherwise the issue of being able to use a headset while docked still exists.
Maybe they're just worried about mics right now because not having voip support would look bad and they will let headphone users fend for themselves.
Maybe they'll sell a modestly priced charge cradle with built in headset support.
 
It says pretty clearly from the website that it is all done through the app, which if taken at face value is f'ing beyond stupid considering they expect us to pay for that shit service. Also, their competition to PS plus and XBL gold is a 20+ yr old game rental for a month? After I blow my wad on splatoon and mario kart I'm not paying after it goes to pay service in the fall for sure unless the "discounts and deals" are way better than expected.

It is neat that they are patching in online code on classic nes, and snes games. We all expected them to go back to milking the VC cow, but that is a cool edition and incentive to buy the same VC game for the 10th time. i feel they are doing this though partly as a reason to say these switch versions are updated, so you have to buy them again, sorry.
 
This is one of the most bizarre things Nintendo has done. For all the technology breakthroughs in this past decade, they've decided to use the most indirect approach for a basic feature that is standard in pretty much any connected devices...


Under a paywall.


This requires a level of psychology research in the billions for creating a bubble so insulated from what is available in the market today. Because it's just so unbelievably tone-deaf, that the only other logical explanation is that they want to sabotage this new announcement.
 
Post...
so sorry
was confusing me greatly. Watched the video and grabbed a pic.

Yeah, that's a 4 post connection (L/R/M<->G).
The app has to be a workaround for players that will be sitting too far from the television when the unit is docked and not having headset support on the controllers.
Makes me wonder if they'd send all game audio through the app because otherwise the issue of being able to use a headset while docked still exists.
Maybe they're just worried about mics right now because not having voip support would look bad and they will let headphone users fend for themselves.
Maybe they'll sell a modestly priced charge cradle with built in headset support.

Sounds like a genius idea if true. Not sure why they just can't tell us this, like come on. Maybe the app isn't done yet and thats why they haven't revealed it
 
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