Yup some people still call those ps plus and ms gold games free they are technally not free at all. Same here to use the full app you need to pay money while the download is free maybe the full app is truly not.
Voice chat on the Switch will consist of a paid app on "smart" devices (your phone)
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Yup some people still call those ps plus and ms gold games free they are technally not free at all. Same here to use the full app you need to pay money while the download is free maybe the full app is truly not.
TheChocoboCadet
Banned
My wife has a smartphone, so there's never really been a need for 2 in the household. I use a dumb ol' slide out keyboard phone for my texting and calling needs, but for internet I'd rather just use my chromebook and save $120 a year rather than paying Verizon's 'smartphone' fee. And that doesn't even include a larger data plan or the base cost of the phone itself. We're certainly not tight on money around here, but it always came off as an unnecessary expense.
There's just something nice about not carrying around your email with you 24/7. But I guess there's always going to be some consequences with choosing not to own one, and this is just going to be one of them.
I dunno, I mean... wouldn't they have more to worry about than a jack? Like how to wirelessly pipe all the audio to the controller. Presumably they'd just be using bluetooth, but I'm guessing there's... more to it there.
BeforeU
Oft hope is born when all is forlorn.
Well you are one of those rare case
It's actually really not. When most of your paid features can already be provided by a smartphone app for free, directly competing with those other services is a bad idea. If the system was integrated into the OS it would have value over Discord, email, etc but as it stands it does not.
Does your chrome book have the play store on it? If it does I'm sure the app will be available for tablets as well.
TheChocoboCadet
Banned
I think it does, but honestly it sounds like a hassle to have to open up my chromebook to play online with my friends. The Switch will probably just be my couch local multiplayer system (which is fine, Nintendo tends to excel at that), but it feels like another missed opportunity that my online friends and I won't be playing competitive Mario Kart for yet another generation. But that may be on me for being too stubborn to upgrade my phone.
Not really. With the Switch app you can chat with your real friends who you know in your private life and your "gaming friends" you might or might not know very well. I'm not sure how comfortable people are by adding their online friends to Whatsapp, Skype and the like. Without the Switch app you would need to add them on Switch and on your whatever smartphone app.
The only issue is how it would work with the game music and voice chat when you want to use the app.
finalflame
Banned
This is a prettt fucking stupid idea I can't defend. If the console doesn't have native voice chat and social features, then Nintendo is more retarded than I suspected, regardless of whether everyone should have smartphones or not (I'm of the opinion that everyone should, and not having one makes you somewhat of a Luddite).
TheAngryMonkey
Member
What if I said parental controls, would that change your mind?
orthodoxy1095
Banned
This is what Discord is for.
The only difference would be the integration into the Switch ecosystem and not requiring you to exchange DiscordTags. But that's not really a huge benefit, because something like Discord is useful precisely because you can use it to keep in contact with people across platforms, rather than being limited to one. To boot, I think most of us would be willing to bet that Discord will have better quality service than anything Nintendo comes up with in the first year.
Prithee Be Careful
Industry Professional
There's nowhere near enough room. If you put a headphone jack in the JoyCon there be barely any space for the ice and marbles...
I mean, there's more to it than literally just putting a jack there. But I'm saying they could have put in support for that like the Dualshock 4 has. Reggie's excuse makes no sense whatsoever because of that.
If voice chat can only be done through an app, I wonder why there's a Nintendo licensed stereo headset/mic from PDP? It says it's designed for the Switch system.
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Alex_Mexico
Member
Wait the fuck on!
The Nintendo Switch won't have native voice chat for real? You'll need to use an app and be tethered to the phone with headphones? That cannot possibly be real, can it!? Because that doesn't sound cumbersome at all!!!
The Nintendo Switch won't have native voice chat for real? You'll need to use an app and be tethered to the phone with headphones? That cannot possibly be real, can it!? Because that doesn't sound cumbersome at all!!!
Mikey Jr.
Member
Ohh it's real my friend.
No idea why they are doing this. It's either...
1. To protect children's sensitive ears from bad language
2. They want to force people to use their phone app to sell them on mobile Nintendo games too.
Im going with 2.
TyMiles2012
Member
The only way this will make sense to me is if Discord teams up with Nintendo and adds Switch support. Honestly, I use Discord for voice chat with my gaming friends using my phone, no matter what I'm playing. I may be a minority but it just works. What upsets me is that we need a separate app for it.
I don't know, it just sounds complicated. I remember when it was so simple and easy with Xbox 360. No system has EVER done it better than it. Nintendo missed a huge opportunity there. I don't have an Xbox One and don't use PS4 to play with friends since they're all on PC (Discord), but I heard those two systems don't even have that down yet. You get a group chat room that's invite only, play whatever you want. Want to play with your friends? Go to the home menu, friends, select them and hit join and BAM. You're in.
I don't know, it just sounds complicated. I remember when it was so simple and easy with Xbox 360. No system has EVER done it better than it. Nintendo missed a huge opportunity there. I don't have an Xbox One and don't use PS4 to play with friends since they're all on PC (Discord), but I heard those two systems don't even have that down yet. You get a group chat room that's invite only, play whatever you want. Want to play with your friends? Go to the home menu, friends, select them and hit join and BAM. You're in.
DrROBschiz
Member
are there ANY media outlets doing follow up on this?
its such a glaring issue for me at the moment
its such a glaring issue for me at the moment
EdwardTivrusky
Member
Good luck, Ninty! I am immune as i have Windows Phone and i doubt there's an app for that... or anything really but that's another story
3.They are incompenent enough to outsource it to MOBILE company which probably was misunderstood whole situation and made this.
im going with 3
Reason 3: It's just not technically possible to run a voice chat program in the background while still playing games at full speed. People are forgetting this is a tiny tablet trying to run console like games. I doubt it can do any multitasking. I also bet it'll not have any music in the background software like Spotify.
Imagine this little tablet suspending a game while the user goes to his friend list to add friends to his party and start up voice chat without lagging/crashing/closing the game.
Papacheeks
Banned
Then they should have put extra processing in the dock to help facilitate this, this is a huge oversight in execution and in design.
DrROBschiz
Member
no.... disagree entirely
this is possible on Vita
as system that is 10times less powerful than switch
stop saying this is why
it was a reality on 3DS because it was shit hardware when it came out and it split resources between 2 screens and running the 3D
cmon now
Okami Haundo
Member
I'm really interested to see just how this "app" looks and works. We just don't have many details yet besides a vague idea of what they plan to do. I really hope that we find this to be worth whatever they end of charging for it.
My initial impression is that this could be pretty great. I often have to walk away from my console while playing stuff on my Xbox, and I always lose connection by the time I get to the kitchen. Using a service like Skype requires adding friends separately from Xbox, which is a pain for playing with people I don't know. Here's hoping that they hit the right notes between functionality and price.
My initial impression is that this could be pretty great. I often have to walk away from my console while playing stuff on my Xbox, and I always lose connection by the time I get to the kitchen. Using a service like Skype requires adding friends separately from Xbox, which is a pain for playing with people I don't know. Here's hoping that they hit the right notes between functionality and price.
Not yet. It's still so unclear right now that.
Vita wasn't running open world games that look like Zelda. They're really pushing this little tablet to the max.
Even if that was true, when you market and price your device as a home console, surprisingly you're gonna get held accountable on home console-related points.
and when you arent playing on the dock what?
DrROBschiz
Member
why
why do we want an online setup thats worse that what can be offered on xbox360/Vita
geez guys... trying to say that os level features and party chat are less desirable than being tethered to a second device?
this thing is being marketed as an all in one hybrid AND they want you to pay to play online
i demand, at the very least, the bare minimum industry standard features
this is bullshit
This is a good point, as someone who prefers both game audio and chat audio through my headset.
DrROBschiz
Member
as it is right now Vita does it the best
built in mic and full PSN chat integration but you can also use a wired headset and wireless headset as well
how do they offer less than the Vita here
my mind is blown
built in mic and full PSN chat integration but you can also use a wired headset and wireless headset as well
how do they offer less than the Vita here
my mind is blown
Papacheeks
Banned
You plug in a headset to the headphone hack?
Like the ear buds you get from iphone or the one you get in PS4?
Or they could have included a built in microphone on the tablet?
There are things they could have done. This shows incompetence and how out of touch they are. Especially looking at prices of add on which is a whole another discussion.
Tablet could have also had bluetooth as well.
Mikey Jr.
Member
Dude, I could voice chat in socom 2 on ps2. Come on man.
DrROBschiz
Member
we still dont know if it supports inline mics or not...
it also as bluetooth 4.1 so there is still hope
the problem ia the fragmentation... pro controller do not have audio jacks so good luck with those wired headsets when in console mode
Papacheeks
Banned
Yea the Nintendo apologists are getting a little too much. Time to take a step back and understand not everyone loves every decision Nintendo has made on this device.
And that is something there should be a information page about on Nintendo's site for multiplayer and chat.
So far they are pulling a Microsoft with how they announced this thing, like outside of the main device and games, other features, what controllers can can't do is all over the place.
DrROBschiz
Member
yup
thisbis my big pet peve right now
everything else i like so dar outside of various pricing... but i can afford to wait for retail deals on extra controllers
Vital Tundra
Member
Thats the weird thing. How do you play with both game sound and voicechat without having say 1 earbud out? Its suuuuper messy. Not to mention if your gonna voice chat on the phone you might as well use discord. I feel its just a way for you to start using Nintendo's app and nothing more.
Huh never thought about this actually. Now that I do, this is actually a issue with certain game on the PS4, especially playing online. Battlefront for example makes the UI lag like nobodies business.
But then you could do it in Xbox (and PS2?).
Papacheeks
Banned
You'd be surprised.
RichiRamjag
Member
I think it is. I already know mad people on PSN who sit with their smartphone for messaging. I know I do. I don't like the idea of it being the only option, buts it's super convenient to just do it on my phone. I wouldn't mind having the option to use the phone (as a secondary option).