Wonder Woman Is a Disjointed Disaster (Says DC Insider)

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Imbarkus

As Sartre noted in his contemplation on Hell in No Exit, the true horror is other members.
It's not a nice editorial.

Also there's a "t" in "Yahtzee"

Not a great sign when the sharpest mind at Moviefy can't even spell his own fake name correctly.

It's an old graphic design trick: I just posted the bad article to make mine look better.
 

While I do agree that these random hot takes from people who may or may not have the full picture are doing a lot of harm, that really isn't outside the norm for any entertainment industry.
It does feel like there are more leaks than normal from Hollywood but might just be because I am paying more attention now.

I did get a kick out of this part:

This is not paranoia or one person just seeing things, this is something you can easily find online.

I can easily find a lot of bullshit of varying degrees online. Doesn't mean I take any of it at face value! ;)
 

neorej

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Wingfan19

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Now see.. I legit didn't know he was involved with WW man. I swear to god this dude.
Yet you apparently didn't bother to read a few more posts down and see that I told everyone in this thread that he only has as story credit and that he DID NOT write this movie. A story credit is essentially meaningless in extended universe movies. He gets it because he created the universe and may have had some kind of input for how to connect the movie to Justice League. That doesn't mean any of his ideas or story beats were used.

Jenkins, Johns, and Heinberg are the ones that actually wrote the movie.

People do realize Nolan has a story credit on Man of Steel as well, right? That dude probably didn't do shit on that movie when it was all said and done.
 

neorej

ERMYGERD!
Yet you apparently didn't bother to read a few more posts down and see that I told everyone in this thread that he only has as story credit and that he DID NOT write this movie. A story credit is essentially meaningless in extended universe movies. He gets it because he created the universe and may have had some kind of input for how to connect the movie to Justice League. That doesn't mean any of his ideas or story beats were used.

Jenkins, Johns, and Heinberg are the ones that actually wrote the movie.

People do realize Nolan has a story credit on Man of Steel as well, right? That dude probably didn't do shit on that movie when it was all said and done.

Yeah, I think Snyder's contribution is limited to ideas and pitches as to how this movie ties into the greater scheme of things and preserving continuity.
 

Rest

All these years later I still chuckle at what a fucking moron that guy is.
It's a Gal Gadot vehicle, if you had high hopes you were delirious. Shoehorning in Chris Pine, as great as he is, isn't going to save a movie centered around a main character played by somebody who can't act at all.
 

With everything you read online, it’s hard not to think there is a bias and an attempt to put everything about the DCEU in a negative light, and this whole thing seems to have started with Zack Snyder’s more rooted and serious take on Superman that many felt was a betrayal of the more camp and light films with Christopher Reeve, and the announcement of the launching of the DCEU that everyone thought it was a desperate attempt to imitate Marvel’s success, when in reality Warner and DC had been trying to build their shared universe years before Marvel Studios even existed.

This is such a moot point. They might have been "trying" to create a shared film universe long before Marvel managed it, but coincidentally only managed it five years after Marvel very successfully launched theirs. (Or three years if you want to count Green Lantern). Like, it's obvious that a huge aspect of Warner signing off on this series of films was down to Marvel's huge success in the genre.

Ben Affleck has been trying to promote his latest directorial effort Live by Night, but every interview ends up being about The Batman. As a filmmaker, that has to be truly annoying.

What did he expect though? He's playing one of the most famous characters from pop culture, so of course people are going to be more interested in that than a mediocre relatively low-budget gangster film. Unless he gets other big roles like Christian Bale did then he's going to be typecast as Batman for the next few years; especially so if people have the DCCU under a microscope because the films have been really bad so far.
 
I think what people liked about Wonder Woman in BvS was really her awesome fight vs. Doomsday. The score was great, her "reveal" wasn't exactly a surprise, but it was fun. She looked OP as fuck, and we got to see the shield, bracelets, lasso, and sword all in action.

That is what I hear about when people discuss Wonder Woman in BvS. What I don't really hear about is her interactions with Bruce and Clark before the fight. Those scenes are much more indicative of Gadot's acting, and they're worringly forgettable to me.
 
I dunno. I feel like there isn't much required of actors in a typical superhero movie, so I think Gal Gadot meets the requirements as long as the script and direction is good. She already looks and fights convincingly based on the trailers.



That is what I hear about when people discuss Wonder Woman in BvS. What I don't really hear about is her interactions with Bruce and Clark before the fight. Those scenes are much more indicative of Gadot's acting, and they're worringly forgettable to me.

I think that's more due to the shitty writing. The little chat during the dance, for instance, pales in comparison to the one in Batman Returns and TDKR. What yawn-inducing lines compared to the two movies.
 

neorej

ERMYGERD!
This is such a moot point. They might have been "trying" to create a shared film universe long before Marvel managed it, but coincidentally only managed it five years after Marvel very successfully launched theirs. (Or three years if you want to count Green Lantern). Like, it's obvious that a huge aspect of Warner signing off on this series of films was down to Marvel's huge success in the genre.

There has been no evidence of shared universe building in the WB DC movies. Even BvS started out as a sequel to MoS and got expanded to a gateway into Justice League and everything DCEU later on.
 
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Apt101

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Man I hope this isn't true. I very little confidence in Justice League and was hoping at least this would turns out well. If Wonder Woman is atrocious it will probably be time to send Justice League and the Batman out to whatever critical fate awaits and reboot the whole thing with a set of competent producers and creators.
 
That article wasn't that well written, but I don't know how people can say there isn't a bandwagon effect when an unsourced one-line comment about Wonder Woman makes a thread this big, with many comments along the lines of "I knew it!"
 
That article wasn't that well written, but I don't know how people can say there isn't a bandwagon effect when an unsourced one-line comment about Wonder Woman makes a thread this big, with many comments along the lines of "I knew it!"

It keeps getting bigger because some folks feel the need to bump it to complain about the size of the thing. Plenty don't agree or believe this news. They've also been here. Not sure how you missed them. Most will take the "wait and see" approach like adults..
 

neorej

ERMYGERD!
I liked the casting for Batman, Alfred, Perry White, the Kents, Jor-El and Zod but the scripts let 'em down. I agree with you on Supes and WW.
I liked Cavill too. It's just that the script doesn't give him much to work with and the director... Well... Yeah.

Dude was pretty dang good on Mam from UNCLE
 

SlimySnake

Flashless at the Golden Globes
Dceu castings seem to be about external appearance only, not acting.

Not even close. Henry Cavill i can understand. He didnt have a great career before MoS, just a decent role in Tudors, but Ben Affleck likely got hired after directing and starring in The Town and Argo, the latter won an Oscar for Best Picture. He was the next big thing in directing and they wanted to build a franchise around him just like they did with Christian Bale.

Russell Crowe, Kevin Kostner, Diane Lane, Amy Adams are all fantastic actors who were cast because of their star power AND their acting abilities.

And Gal looks almost perfect as Wonder Woman. She was one of the best things in BvS and was widely praised by everyone. I have no idea what you are on about.

The only one who was cast poorly was Michael Cera and that's all Zach's fault for thinking this crazy nutjob actor would be perfect as a crazy nutjob Lex. if anything, his looks had nothing to do with the casting since he looks nothing like Lex.

Deadshot and Harley were also the best thing in SS. And it's because both Will Smith and Margot Robbie are great actors.
 

neorej

ERMYGERD!
Not even close. Henry Cavill i can understand. He didnt have a great career before MoS, just a decent role in Tudors, but Ben Affleck likely got hired after directing and starring in The Town and Argo, the latter won an Oscar for Best Picture. He was the next big thing in directing and they wanted to build a franchise around him just like they did with Christian Bale.

Russell Crowe, Kevin Kostner, Diane Lane, Amy Adams are all fantastic actors who were cast because of their star power AND their acting abilities.

And Gal looks almost perfect as Wonder Woman. She was one of the best things in BvS and was widely praised by everyone. I have no idea what you are on about.

The only one who was cast poorly was Michael Cera and that's all Zach's fault for thinking this crazy nutjob actor would be perfect as a crazy nutjob Lex. if anything, his looks had nothing to do with the casting since he looks nothing like Lex.

Deadshot and Harley were also the best thing in SS. And it's because both Will Smith and Margot Robbie are great actors.
Michael Cera is the worst Luthor. Even worse than Eisenberg!
 
Eisenberg, like Leto, were solid castings on paper. Hearing about Jesse Eisenberg casting, first thought is "Oh, he'll be a slightly eviler Mark Zuckerberg?" A contemporary take on Lex Luthor just as Bryne's take on the character was on his Man of Steel run. But then the movie is out and he's eccentric, has nervous tics, too many affectations. At times I felt it worked, on the helipad when confronting Superman. Other times, like, why are you crying and getting poetic when making Doomsday?

Leto, again, it's easy to see how he'd be a solid Joker. He's a talented actor. But then they went in the honka honka direction.
 

SlimySnake

Flashless at the Golden Globes
Eisenberg, like Leto, were solid castings on paper. Hearing about Jesse Eisenberg casting, first thought is "Oh, he'll be a slightly eviler Mark Zuckerberg?" A contemporary take on Lex Luthor just as Bryne's take on the character was on his Man of Steel run. But then the movie is out and he's eccentric, has nervous tics, too many affectations. At times I felt it worked, on the helipad when confronting Superman. Other times, like, why are you crying and getting poetic when making Doomsday?

Leto, again, it's easy to see how he'd be a solid Joker. He's a talented actor. But then they went in the honka honka direction.
Right. I totally forgot about Leto but he had just won the Oscar and WB loves to go after critically acclaimed actors. It just didn't work out. I rather liked leto when he wasn't being so overly dramatic. Both actors went full eccentric and as Tony stark once said you never go full retard.
 

boiled goose

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Not even close. Henry Cavill i can understand. He didnt have a great career before MoS, just a decent role in Tudors, but Ben Affleck likely got hired after directing and starring in The Town and Argo, the latter won an Oscar for Best Picture. He was the next big thing in directing and they wanted to build a franchise around him just like they did with Christian Bale.

Russell Crowe, Kevin Kostner, Diane Lane, Amy Adams are all fantastic actors who were cast because of their star power AND their acting abilities.

And Gal looks almost perfect as Wonder Woman. She was one of the best things in BvS and was widely praised by everyone. I have no idea what you are on about.

The only one who was cast poorly was Michael Cera and that's all Zach's fault for thinking this crazy nutjob actor would be perfect as a crazy nutjob Lex. if anything, his looks had nothing to do with the casting since he looks nothing like Lex.

Deadshot and Harley were also the best thing in SS. And it's because both Will Smith and Margot Robbie are great actors.

Michael Cera huh? Yeah... I don't think you know much about actual acting.

You rightfully notice Afflecks success as a director. If we want to talk about directing not acting I have plenty negative to say about snyders garbage filmmaking
 
Eisenberg, like Leto, were solid castings on paper. Hearing about Jesse Eisenberg casting, first thought is "Oh, he'll be a slightly eviler Mark Zuckerberg?" A contemporary take on Lex Luthor just as Bryne's take on the character was on his Man of Steel run. But then the movie is out and he's eccentric, has nervous tics, too many affectations. At times I felt it worked, on the helipad when confronting Superman. Other times, like, why are you crying and getting poetic when making Doomsday?

Leto, again, it's easy to see how he'd be a solid Joker. He's a talented actor. But then they went in the honka honka direction.

The ironic thing of course is that john Byrnes version of luthor was based on Donald trump
 

Bleepey

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Still one of the best scenes in the entire MCU.
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MCU Stan: Cap dives into a grenade when it's miles away from anyone. He's so selfless

MCU Stan:Superman allows himself to get nuked and spears Doomsday with krptonite due to that being the only thing he could do . Superman's an idiot
 
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