Square Enix's silence about the PC version of Nier Automata
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fluffydelusions
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I'm sure it it only matter more because they were paid
Man I'm MORE than happy with the direction of Japanese games being released on PC.
It's continuously getting better and better. Especially compared to what I had to choose from once I dumped consoles back in 2008/9. I mean we got Disgaea's, Atelier's, NepNeps, Guilty Gears, Shoot'em Ups, Final Fantasy series, Danganronpa, Naruto's.... Too much stuff to list or remember. Arc System Works has EVEN caught PC up to their current line up. BlazBlue Central Fiction is in Steam's database just waiting to get announced and Revelator 2 is being released on the same day as it's console counterparts.
Sure Square Enix could do a little better, but if Nier isn't released for another 2 or 3 months, whatever. At least this isn't the wasteland that it was 8 or 9 years ago.
THE bad thing is about all this is the speed of Square Enix's progression in the PC space since they've been on the platform, as a whole, for damn near 20 or so years.
They are marketing the game on one platform. That's the issue people are having.
It's continuously getting better and better. Especially compared to what I had to choose from once I dumped consoles back in 2008/9. I mean we got Disgaea's, Atelier's, NepNeps, Guilty Gears, Shoot'em Ups, Final Fantasy series, Danganronpa, Naruto's.... Too much stuff to list or remember. Arc System Works has EVEN caught PC up to their current line up. BlazBlue Central Fiction is in Steam's database just waiting to get announced and Revelator 2 is being released on the same day as it's console counterparts.
Sure Square Enix could do a little better, but if Nier isn't released for another 2 or 3 months, whatever. At least this isn't the wasteland that it was 8 or 9 years ago.
THE bad thing is about all this is the speed of Square Enix's progression in the PC space since they've been on the platform, as a whole, for damn near 20 or so years.
They are marketing the game on one platform. That's the issue people are having.
thebigmachine
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If I double dip on PC I normally let that price drop to around $15. I mean yeah they get more money from me but not much and by then I might want to replay the game so it works out perfectly.
Because if you want to play the game on PC and are willing to wait you won't have to buy the game twice.
That they're marketing the PS4 version exclusively while not saying anything at all about the PC version and it's releasedate is exactly what this thread is about and the opposite of what you're thinking they do.
Dreams-Visions
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I mean "early" has to be the first 4 or 5 months of the year. So probably April? May at the latest?
Guessing you're not a Taro Yoko follower? That's how he replies to pretty much any question about his games on twitter. It seems like he just doesn't want to get in trouble for what he posts on his personal twitter, but that video was more than likely filmed under Square's supervision, so he felt okay to say it. Don't see what's fishy at all about this, unless you don't know who this man is.
SE promoting a late port to pc? That's a good joke!
Drilbit777
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My guess is that Sony is making them be hush about it and we won't see the pc version for a while after it comes out on console. I doubt SE would cancel it
What would you do as their marketing manager if the PC Version isnt ready and is releasing on PS4 next week ?
paperspace
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Isn't the easiest way to generate hype on PC to just include the game in a sale? It seems pretty easy, tbh.
Say exactly that
No, it really isn't. A lot of people buy full priced just like on console and the devs of course should want to optimize the amount people who buy it for full price.
I think the easiest way to generate hype on pc is either traditional ads or get it in the hands of youtubers and streamers, just like how they also do for consoles.
Removing the PC/Steam logo from the trailers is the last thing I would do, that's for sure.
That only benefits Sony making people believe the game is a PS4 exclusive, and that is why a marketing deal is the obvious reason.
And what difference will it make ?
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Probably on hold or taking longer to focus on their priority: PS4 version.
It would be an acknowledgement of the situation at hand and tell why exactly the pc version is releasing later
Getting really tired of it debunking this over and over again.... Sigh
Corpsepyre
Banned
Welcome to the world of appeasing big corporations (Sony, in this instance), exclusivity contracts and marketing.
It's funny that many people are convinced that the Sony bogeyman is moneyhatting... Nier.
Like, seriously?
Regarding the 1st page discussion, I'm certainly grateful to SQE because I never thought I'd play a sequel to Nier. I don't see them making a huge profit, if any, with this game, so there's that.
Like, seriously?
Regarding the 1st page discussion, I'm certainly grateful to SQE because I never thought I'd play a sequel to Nier. I don't see them making a huge profit, if any, with this game, so there's that.
I own a PS4 but would rather play Nier on my PC. Square's mixed messaging and lack of divulging details has soured my enthusiasm for the game, admittedly. While I'd very much like to support Taro from the get-go or now, whenever the PC version of the game is released (if ever), I don't think I'll be rushing out to go purchase it which is unfortunate but also a result of several other competing games around that time which do have locked-in dates of availability. You'd think that Square would be more transparent considering this is such a niche franchise, but I don't doubt they'll moan on about how the game underperformed when they only have themselves to blame.
I think at this point it's pretty obvious that Sony ponied up cash for them to have exclusive marketing rights; well, maybe not marketing as so much as courting the action gamers and RPG fans to their console by changing mindshare. Solidifying their position?
We've seen this potential issue with Death Stranding, which had mentions of PC wiped from the internet, and Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3, which still has its intended release date of Dec 3 on the store page before Sony stepped in, and I'm sure many other examples this generation.
Having the same consumer transparency for all platforms is good for consumer confidence.
As you can see by many posts in this thread, very few people have confidence in Square when it comes to PC; accusations of missing features, accusations of double-dip milking... lol. Their reputation is not so great. This is their chance to fix it but Sony money was probably a little too tempting.
We've seen this potential issue with Death Stranding, which had mentions of PC wiped from the internet, and Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3, which still has its intended release date of Dec 3 on the store page before Sony stepped in, and I'm sure many other examples this generation.
Having the same consumer transparency for all platforms is good for consumer confidence.
As you can see by many posts in this thread, very few people have confidence in Square when it comes to PC; accusations of missing features, accusations of double-dip milking... lol. Their reputation is not so great. This is their chance to fix it but Sony money was probably a little too tempting.
fvng
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if i was a game publisher i would stall out on a pc release too, since pc piracy is so rampant.
they'll make most of their money on ps4, and then release on pc because the impact of piracy would probably be negligible at that point.. but since they announced a pc release so early, it's going to create some sour grapes that we're already seeing in this thread
they'll make most of their money on ps4, and then release on pc because the impact of piracy would probably be negligible at that point.. but since they announced a pc release so early, it's going to create some sour grapes that we're already seeing in this thread
What year is it
This is GAF, I am very used to seeing posts which reflect a reality of 10+ years ago. lol
fluffydelusions
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Wtf is this post
Wouldn't be surprised if the devs might think the same thing, especially with news of RE7s denuvo crack.
Though, in all honesty, the game just may not be ready for PC yet. Simply a case of announcing too soon (maybe intentionally to drum up hype), I don't think it's Sony money delaying it.
Ghostbound
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I guess we should be thankful that you aren't a game publisher then.
Primethius
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The PC version never had a firm release date like the PS4 version right? That's why I'm leaning towards to the PC version not being ready quite yet/and or at launch.
Man, sometimes I forget that GAF really doesn't pay any attention to PC gaming and then I see stuff like this.
Piracy on PC has been decreasing for years and the double dipper myth has been debunked so many times.
Hahaha look at SE relese history. They prioritise the ps4 versions of their Japanese games. This is not new.
GhostTrick
Banned
fluffydelusions
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That isn't true with all SE games. Also, PC was lead development platform with this game as well.
Which will lead to certain delay in revenue as certain target audience having a ps4 and PC will wait for the PC version to buy the game !
Makes No Sense for the marketing/sales person, ideally as they will have targets in there mind of 'X amount' of Revenue in Day 1 till Day 31st. For Most marketing/sales, delay in any revenue is a loss
The Marketing team wants the majority of the PS4/PC to buy the game on whatever platform it release first because they want to achieve the potential revenue they can earn from whatever source as earliest as possible.
If I know "Customer A can buy the game right now instead of 2 months later , I will try my level best to make buy as earliest as possible"
What Japanese SE games have released on PC at the same time as ps4.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Hardly. Actions are always louder than words, especially in this case, where the priority has also been focused on the PS4 release. You don't honestly think SE values the PC version as much do you? If they did they would of delayed the PS4 version as well.
I am Setsuna. Off the top of my head, that's the only one.
fluffydelusions
Member
Final Fantasy 14 as well I believe
FF 14 is an MMO
GhostTrick
Banned
When the producer claims the Steam version was planned from the beginning and that the game is developped first with high end PC in mind then optimised to console ?
It's not about priority, it's about how their developpement pipeline works.
The question is, if a delay is happening, why is it happening and why Square is so silent about it.