NYT: Trump Campaign Aides Had Repeated Contacts With Russian Intelligence

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Lol Maddow laughing at the idea that McCain will come through here. Her guest is confident though. But he also seems confident still in Comey.

This is a potentially get off the boat and help sink it or slowly drown along with it moment. McCain and Graham and whoever else in the GOP need to decide fast what side of history they want to be on.
 
We keep getting this same message even though more and more stuff keeps coming out.

What is the deal really?

Stuff came out during the campaign too. It was a never ending stream of reasons he should not be elected, and he won. Why would his Presidency be any different?

Besides, he'll just fire everyone on the tapes and we'll be on to the next "OMG WTF" scandal and so on. This will go on until his own supporters turn against him. They actually vote.
 
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The Cold War never ended: It merely...chilled out for a while.
 
Yes, if enough shit goes down they will throw him right under the bus to try to save 2018. The question is how much.

If elections seem to be on the line, they will do what needs done.

I'll believe it when I see it.

I've been witnessing how the republicans have behaved over the course of recent history -- unprecedented obstruction, hard lines, not allowing a vote or even speaking to Obama's very moderate, highly qualified SCOTUS pick -- and I simply don't believe they'll do anything about anything under any circumstances. We'll just hit a wall and hope for the best in 2018.
 
What about his cabinet appointments? If this goes down, every single person he nominated and appointed should be tossed just because he wanted them there.

Then you can investigate every major donor he had.

The whole cabinet is gone with the exception of maybe mattis/Kelly and maybe the CIA director
 
Any real sources and not fake news sites? I want alternatives facts here guys not these real facts. Waiting for Fox and Friends to tell me how this is all Obamas fault. /S

I'll go over to the Fox News site and see what the big story is.

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...Oh! There's political division about the travel ban!

Also, the Obama family is in line to make "big $$ with new gigs"! as part of their post presidential perks! Darn those Obamas.
 
I'll believe it when I see it.

I've been witnessing how the republicans have behaved over the course of recent history -- unprecedented obstruction, hard lines, not allowing a vote or even speaking to Obama's very moderate, highly qualified SCOTUS pick -- and I simply don't believe they'll do anything about anything under any circumstances. We'll just hit a wall and hope for the best in 2018.

I think one Dem was already saying that 2018 should be about promising to impeach Trump. If more evidence comes out and they still refuse to do anything about it, we might have to wait two long years for a proper investigation.
 
I'll go over to the Fox News site and see what the big story is.

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...Oh! There's political division about the travel ban!

Also, the Obama family is in line to make "big $$ with new gigs"! as part of their post presidential perks! Darn those Obamas.
I mean obviously way more important than actual treason being performed by the Whitehouse.
 
Well, there is a Red Storm Rising, after all!

Good work, haha.

Well, it's clear there's a splinter cell of intelligence operatives and bureaucrats operating in the White House doing ghost recon to ensure that the truth comes to light. They have to ensure that the eagle is not destroyed by the bear and the dragon.

I don't wanna use all those ops center titles, shiet
 
I have so many videogames to play, yet every night there is a new story and I end up watching CNN all night.
I feel ya... have my copies of Yakuza 0, Nioh, Resident Evil 7, Gravity Rush 2... all sitting here unplayed thanks to this mess.
I only hope we see some end of this madness before Zelda comes out.
 
I'll believe it when I see it.

I've been witnessing how the republicans have behaved over the course of recent history -- unprecedented obstruction, hard lines, not allowing a vote or even speaking to Obama's very moderate, highly qualified SCOTUS pick -- and I simply don't believe they'll do anything about anything under any circumstances. We'll just hit a wall and hope for the best in 2018.


None of those items even comes close to what we have here
 
What the fuck is going on here. Google news results easy to manipulate or something? No Flynn or Russia story in the top stories?

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edit: nevermind, if i do an incognito window it shows Flynn, google must think I really like dogs.

edit: nevermind, back to the dog show, wtf
 
The best thing that could happen is

a) high profile murder or suicide forces the GOP's hand
b) the pressure causes a high-level Trumpster to implode and spill the beans

Otherwise, it'll slide off the GOP
 
They won't have a choice

Why?

Why won't they have a choice?

I'm not being difficult, I honestly want to know -- What is the logical conclusion here? They'll be forced by media and public scrutiny to do the right thing because they have shame? No, they actually don't... And their voters live in an alternate reality where none of this is real.
 
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FBI investigators believe that Michael Flynn was not entirely forthcoming during his interview on Russian talks
 
The best thing that could happen is

a) high profile murder or suicide forces the GOP's hand
b) the pressure causes a high-level Trumpster to implode and spill the beans

Otherwise, it'll slide off the GOP

We saw with Flynn that leaks lead to action, I bet this emboldens the leakers to the point where there is enough leaking that something does break.
 
All the leaks are good. Keep in mind this will take months and there will be tons of dumpster fires before we see actual things pan out.

I barely watch the news but I have fallen in love with Maddow she is absolutely on point and brutal. I am more of a newspaper guy but I think i will start watching her more.
 
As much as I love seeing Trump's admin get pecked at, this is a really horrible turn of events.

Just a giant shitshow. We shouldn't have let this happen.

At minimum there's going to need to be requirements for presidential nominees to release their tax returns and then the same for every person they want to put into the White House once they are in. If we don't even get that out of this disaster we're fucked. We will have put nothing we've learned into any substantial mechanism to try and prevent a similar situation.
 
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