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[Captain Tuttle]

fuck this guy

 

[G0523]

Well, he could always stick around as an illegal.

Lol. He probably could. Not like he'd be the first to do it.

No keep that cunt away from here. We took back Piers Morgan man.

He could flee to Russia if the UK doesn't want him either. Although, IIRC how does Russia feel about gay people? Ohh man! This guy is so screwed!

 

[NandoGip]

Therefor he should join Glen Beck's network TheBlaze next?

This would be the best outcome. It would guarantee the death of his career

 

[SerTapTap]

Being against "Identity politics" is a way for white guys to disregard women, gay, and minority rights

Ironically they're now using "identitarian" as a substitute for Neo Nazi (lots of Brands being floated for neo nazis these days. Turns out most people still realize they're just nazis and that sure does bother them)

Therefor he should join Glen Beck's network TheBlaze next?

Didn't TheBlaze just run an article about how fucked Milo was? Most mainstream conservatives hate this clown or only like him when he's talking about minorities.

 

[Oppo]

He was neither humiliated nor shamed on that show. The only one who came out looking like an asshole was Maher. Milo's disinivitation from CPAC, book deal cancellation, Breitbart firing and general life collapse has fucking ZERO to do with anything Maher said or did. Nobody at CPAC is taking their cues on anything from Bill Maher.

I'll respond to this one –

I didn't want to watch the interview with Milo, because I was annoyed that Maher had him on at all. I am a believer in free speech and defend it regularly, but I don't think Milo is a free speech argument, he's a hate speech troll. So we're clear.

I ended up listening to it while out on a hike, since i have the audio podcast version subscribed, and I thought ok, may as well hear what happened.

At one point Maher called him an "impish British fag". which made me wince, 'cause I do not like it when people use that term – at all – but you can't call that coddling.

At several points he said "I strongly disagree with you on several issues" but he didn't really get into it, and he let Milo go on too long.

I think a lot of folks here hate Milo so much that anything less than total destruction in the interview is not enough. And many also hate Maher for other points, many of which I disagree with as well (against Maher). I get where they're coming from but let's not miss the forest for the trees. Maher wasn't nice to him. He simply let Milo speak and he drives people fucking crazy. Again, I want to underscore, I don't think he should have had him on. But some credit is due, even fleetingly, for having him on the panel afterwards, because I'm pretty sure Bill knew what was going to happen to him, even if he wasn't willing to do it himself.

Milo is basically Gay Anne Coulter. It's a schtick designed to piss you off. Don't fall for it.

And... let's not forget: many people have interviewed this idiot. Channel 4. ABC Nightline. CNBC. (And of course a raft of conservative sources.) Are all of these places "enablers" for speaking to this clown?

Feel free to disagree but I am of the mind that even though Bill's interview, as a choice and as it was conducted, were very disappointing to me, the clip from the panel – give credit to Larry if you like, he certainly deserves some as well! – all happened on Bill's show and seemed to start the snowball rolling. I know about CPAC and the rest, but what I didn't know was that the Republican party actually had a line that was possible to cross, anymore.

 

[Oblivion]

I'm honestly surprised about this. I was almost positive they would have kept him on and brushed off this controversy by using the "locker room talk" defense.

On the other hand, he's a gay and even though he's supposed to be "one of the good ones", gay conservatives are at the bottom of the right-winger totem pole.

 

[boredandlazy]

Stop sending us your worst people.

Spoiler

That's what Australia is for.

Nah, keep him away.

 

[Laevateinn]

I'm honestly surprised about this. I was almost positive they would have kept him on and brushed off this controversy by using the "locker room talk" defense.

On the other hand, he's a gay and even though he's supposed to be "one of the good ones", gay conservatives are at the bottom of the right-winger totem pole.

Penn State locker room talk

 

[Whompa02]

And now the media needs to understand that this is the last time we should hear about this fuckwad trashbin of a human.

Stop reporting on him,

 

[Acorn]

Lol. He probably could. Not like he'd be the first to do it.



He could flee to Russia if the UK doesn't want him either. Although, IIRC how does Russia feel about gay people? Ohh man! This guy is so screwed!

Russia invented useful idiots. They'll make him the face of homophobic laws.

 

[G0523]

Russia invented useful idiots. They'll make him the face of homophobic laws.

I've read horror stories about how gay people are treated in Russia. If he goes there he will likely die.

 

[B-Dubs]

Feel free to disagree but I am of the mind that even though Bill's interview, as a choice and as it was conducted, were very disappointing to me, the clip from the panel – give credit to Larry if you like, he certainly deserves some as well! – all happened on Bill's show and seemed to start the snowball rolling. I know about CPAC and the rest, but what I didn't know was that the Republican party actually had a line that was possible to cross, anymore.

Maher didn't snowball shit. As it turns out there's Reaganites that have an actual line they won't cross, unlike Maher.

 

[Oblivion]

I'll respond to this one –

I didn't want to watch the interview with Milo, because I was annoyed that Maher had him on at all. I am a believer in free speech and defend it regularly, but I don't think Milo is a free speech argument, he's a hate speech troll. So we're clear.

I ended up listening to it while out on a hike, since i have the audio podcast version subscribed, and I thought ok, may as well hear what happened.

At one point Maher called him an "impish British fag". which made me wince, 'cause I do not like it when people use that term – at all – but you can't call that coddling.

At several points he said "I strongly disagree with you on several points" but he didn't really get into it, and he let Milo go on too long.

I think a lot of folks here hate Milo so much that anything less than total destruction in the interview is not enough. And many also hate Maher for other points, many of which I disagree with as well (against Maher). I get where they're coming from but let's not miss the forest for the trees. Maher wasn't nice to him. He simply let him speak and he drives peopel fucking crazy. Again, I want to underscore, I don't think he should have had him on. But some credit is due, even fleetingly, for having him on the panel afterwards, because I'm pretty sure Bill knew what was going to happen to him, even if he wasn't willing to do it himself.

Let's not forget: many people have interviewed this idiot. Channel 4. ABC Nightline. CNBC. (And of course a raft of conservative sources.) Are all of these places "enablers" for speaking to this clown?

Feel free to disagree but I am of the mind that even though Bill's interview, as a choice and as it was conducted, were very disappointing to me, the clip from the panel – give credit to Larry if you like, he certainly deserves some as well! – all happened on Bill's show and seemed to start the snowball rolling. I know about CPAC and the rest, but what I didn't know was that the Republican party actually had a line that was possible to cross, anymore.

No, no, no, no, no.

That interview was fucking awful. Forget "total destruction", I would have been happy if Maher pushed back simply half the time. He barely debated him at all and spent most of the segment agreeing with him. Maher can be a great interviewer and he's demonstrated that many times in the past, which is why it was so utterly infuriating to see him coddle Milo in the manner that he did.

 

[Acorn]

I've read horror stories about how gay people are treated in Russia. If he goes there he will likely die.

I wasn't being serious. The situation for lgbt people in Russia is indeed very dire.

 

[clearacell]

The dominoes...one by one...

 

[Oersted]

Therefor he should join Glen Beck's network TheBlaze next?

http://www.glennbeck.com/2017/02/21...ia-comments-cost-him-cpac-role-and-book-deal/

He also doesn't like Donald

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/01/glenn-becks-regrets/508763/

 

[Slayven]

I love the retroactive credit Bill maher gets for doing nothing, even it was Larry Wilmore and the others pusing back against Milo. Shout to the Regan fanboys that have some sort of principals.

 

[G0523]

I wasn't being serious. The situation for lgbt people in Russia is indeed very dire.

Oh. Whoops! Sorry about that. I'm just filled with so much happiness and excitement right now that this asshole is getting exactly what he deserves.

 

[Slayven]

Therefor he should join Glen Beck's network TheBlaze next?

Probably can't afford him, The Blaze has been tanking the last few years

 

[Gentleman Jack]

I love the retroactive credit Bill maher gets for doing nothing, even it was Larry Wilmore and the others pusing back against Milo. Shout to the Regan fanboys that have some sort of principals.

I wonder if Maher will end up buying into his own hype on this one.

 

[Slayven]

I wonder if Maher will end up buying into his own hype on this one.

Probably not. Dude isn't self aware. I mean Brian from Family Guy is based off of him.,

 

[Massive Duck. C.M.]

No, no, no, no, no.

That interview was fucking awful. Forget "total destruction", I would have been happy if Maher pushed back simply half the time. He barely debated him at all and spent most of the segment agreeing with him. Maher can be a great interviewer and he's demonstrated that many times in the past, which is why it was so utterly infuriating to see him coddle Milo in the manner that he did.

Maher getting credit for this is like a doctor saving someone's life on the subway and the transit authority getting credit for providing the train car

 

[Enzom21]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TE1wN1UMhuo Don Lemon discusses the incident with Milo with Jennifer Granholm (former governor of MI) and Rick Santorum on CNN.

Good on Santorum for also ripping Milo (although did he need to throw libertarians under the bus too?)

I love that Rick-I almost slipped and called Obama a nigger Santorum is somehow disgusted with Yiannopoulos.
Probably hates the gay thing and not the racism thing.

Thanks Bill Maher

I don't know if this is sarcasm or not but Maher didn't do shit but slather Yiannopoulos' balls and complain about people being too PC like he always does.
Dude must really want to tell nigger jokes.

 

[B-Dubs]

This is like a doctor saving someone's life on the subway and the transit authority getting credit for providing the train car

Nah, that's still more credit than Maher deserves for all this. It's like a doctor saving someone's life on the NYC subway and the Chicago transit authority getting credit for providing the train car.

 

[plagiarize]

The thing that cracks me up is when dudes are like "identity politics are holding the left back. Now let's focus on getting the white working man on our side"

I hate everything about that line of argument.

Because... no. We barely lost, and there's a whole list of things that probably cost us before we even need to talk about identity politics.

And Maher deserves absolutely ZERO credit for this. It quite demonstrably has nothing to do with him and the awful awful showcase he gave to a troll.

 

[Acorn]

Oh. Whoops! Sorry about that. I'm just filled with so much happiness and excitement right now that this asshole is getting exactly what he deserves.

No problem, tone is notoriously difficult to read online. Yep, been a long, long, long time due.

 

[Oppo]

No, no, no, no, no.

That interview was fucking awful. Forget "total destruction", I would have been happy if Maher pushed back simply half the time. He barely debated him at all and spent most of the segment agreeing with him. Maher can be a great interviewer and he's demonstrated that many times in the past, which is why it was so utterly infuriating to see him coddle Milo in the manner that he did.

what did you think of the Joan Rivers comparison? just out of curiosity.

This is like a doctor saving someone's life on the subway and the transit authority getting credit for providing the train car

more like credit for providing emergency response strips, in a tortured metaphor, but point taken.

 

[Blader]

I'll respond to this one –

I didn't want to watch the interview with Milo, because I was annoyed that Maher had him on at all. I am a believer in free speech and defend it regularly, but I don't think Milo is a free speech argument, he's a hate speech troll. So we're clear.

I ended up listening to it while out on a hike, since i have the audio podcast version subscribed, and I thought ok, may as well hear what happened.

At one point Maher called him an "impish British fag". which made me wince, 'cause I do not like it when people use that term – at all – but you can't call that coddling.

At several points he said "I strongly disagree with you on several points" but he didn't really get into it, and he let Milo go on too long.

I think a lot of folks here hate Milo so much that anything less than total destruction in the interview is not enough. And many also hate Maher for other points, many of which I disagree with as well (against Maher). I get where they're coming from but let's not miss the forest for the trees. Maher wasn't nice to him. He simply let Milo speak and he drives people fucking crazy. Again, I want to underscore, I don't think he should have had him on. But some credit is due, even fleetingly, for having him on the panel afterwards, because I'm pretty sure Bill knew what was going to happen to him, even if he wasn't willing to do it himself.

Milo is basically Gay Anne Coulter. It's a schtick designed to piss you off. Don't fall for it.

The fact that your defense of Maher's interview boils down to "impish British fag" and "I disagree with you on several points" is proof of how weak the interview was. Maher's show did not do anything to create an environment of criticizing Milo. Republicans do not give any fucks about Bill Maher; they're not watching his show for any cues to follow on. The blowback came from conservatives who were appalled that he was invited to speak at CPAC. That's it.

And calling Milo or Ann Coulter shticks that we just shouldn't fall for is extremely dangerous. These are real people with real, harmful worldviews that are becoming increasingly popular because there are people like Milo and Coulter out there to promote them.

 

[Linkura]

"Resigned." Haha, no. BB shouldn't have even given him the option. At least he's gone and will fade quickly into total irrelevancy. Bye, Nazi fuck.

 

[excelsiorlef]

Therefor he should join Glen Beck's network TheBlaze next?

I think The Blaze was one of the first outlets to run this story after the Reaganites broke it.

 

[Oppo]

The fact that your defense of Maher's interview boils down to "impish British fag" and "I disagree with you on several points" is proof of how weak the interview was. Maher's show did not do anything to create an environment of criticizing Milo. Republicans do not give any fucks about Bill Maher; they're not watching his show for any cues to follow on. The blowback came from conservatives who were appalled that he was invited to speak at CPAC. That's it.

And calling Milo or Ann Coulter shticks that we just shouldn't fall for is extremely dangerous. These are real people with real, harmful worldviews that are becoming increasingly popular because there are people like Milo and Coulter out there to promote them.

the fact that you ignored my repeated and emphasized unhappiness with the choice to a) do the interview at all and b) how it went, shows that you are blinded by the shine off the axe you are grinding.

 

[Massive Duck. C.M.]

Maher helping to discredit Milo:

"You're like a young Christopher Hitchens!"

"Gotta protect women and girls from trans people? Sounds reasonable!"

"Trans people are responsible for the majority of sexual assault? Not sure, but *shrug*"

"I hate whiny liberals too!"

 

[BocoDragon]

"You're like a young Christopher Hutchins!"

Barf.

 

[Acorn]

Maher helping to discredit Milo:

"You're like a young Christopher Hutchins!"

"Gotta protect women and girls from trans people? Sounds reasonable!"

"Trans people are responsible for the majority of sexual assault? Not sure, but *shrug*"

"I hate whiny liberals too!"

Demonstrating the bravery we need in these times.

*Single tear

 

[RedHill]

Maher referred to Milo as the F word??

 

[Abounder]

Maher probably didn't know who he was dealing with (surprise surprise) but his millions of viewers undoubtedly helped torpedo Milo's career, Milo quickly become an imported/national punchline and was thoroughly thrashed on the show and the aftermath. Hope even crowdfunding sites will ban Milo, good riddance

 

[SlimySnake]

Fuck Sam Harris? He's been a vehement critic of Trump and his supporters. He argues using nuance and reason. He's exactly the kind of level-headed person the left needs to listen to right now, even if you find that some of his arguments make you uncomfortable. I'm guessing your main issue with him is his strident criticism of religion, and particularly Islam, which somehow got him labeled a racist (thanks Ben Affleck). Or maybe it's because he has been increasingly critical of the left for going overboard with identity politics and outrage culture? Left-GAF has been freaking me out ever since Trump won. I'm becoming increasingly aware that many of you support the use of violence against speech, as was the case with the Berkeley incident. Absolutely nothing good will come of that. We (the left) need to pull our shit together before we lose the 2018 and 2020 elections. That starts with taking a hard look at ourselves.

Also, Sam's latest podcast episode was great:

Waking Up with Sam Harris #65 — We're All Cucks Now (with David Frum)

Left gaf is scary to me too, but Sam Harris with his 'Islam is a mother load of bad ideas' line of attack is anything but level-headed. I saw his interview with Bill Maher after the inauguration about the muslim ban and they were both like oh we need moderate and liberal muslims more than ever now! It was hilarious how clueless these guys are, because they turned away moderates and liberals like me with their stupid and careless attacking of an entire religion.

Both Bill and Sam use inflammatory rhetoric whenever it comes to Islam and give credence to bigots on the right who look at these guys and go 'See even Liberals agree with us!'

Maher helping to discredit Milo:

"You're like a young Christopher Hutchins!"

"Gotta protect women and girls from trans people? Sounds reasonable!"

"Trans people are responsible for the majority of sexual assault? Not sure, but *shrug*"

"I hate whiny liberals too!"

lol yep. Let's not forget how he completely ignored all of his controversial statements save for Leslie Mann because he wanted to find common fucking ground with him. I wonder if we ever had Hitler on his show, he would try to find common ground with him and ignore the 5 million jews he burned to death.

 

[hawk2025]

the fact that you ignored my repeated and emphasized unhappiness with the choice to a) do the interview at all and b) how it went, shows that you are blinded by the shine off the axe you are grinding.

Honey, the head's already rolling.

Y'all discussing who the executioner was.

 

[Moze]

It blows my mind he thought it was a good idea to talk about such a thing. Is he not aware his side often calls for instant death to anybody found guilty of pedophillia? It is pretty much the only thing that can kill the career of almost anybody.

What even happens now? Is he going to be completely blacklisted?

 

[plagiarize]

Maher probably didn't know who he was dealing with (surprise surprise) but his millions of viewers undoubtedly helped torpedo Milo's career, Milo quickly become an imported/national punchline and was thoroughly thrashed on the show and the aftermath. Hope even crowdfunding sites will ban Milo, good riddance

No.

They didn't. We know who dug up the offending comments and why.

And they sure as shit weren't Bill Maher fans.

 

[Enzom21]

Maher helping to discredit Milo:

"You're like a young Christopher Hutchins!"

"Gotta protect women and girls from trans people? Sounds reasonable!"

"Trans people are responsible for the majority of sexual assault? Not sure, but *shrug*"

"I hate whiny liberals too!"

Fuck Maher.

 

[excelsiorlef]

I'll respond to this one –

I didn't want to watch the interview with Milo, because I was annoyed that Maher had him on at all. I am a believer in free speech and defend it regularly, but I don't think Milo is a free speech argument, he's a hate speech troll. So we're clear.

I ended up listening to it while out on a hike, since i have the audio podcast version subscribed, and I thought ok, may as well hear what happened.

At one point Maher called him an "impish British fag". which made me wince, 'cause I do not like it when people use that term – at all – but you can't call that coddling.

At several points he said "I strongly disagree with you on several issues" but he didn't really get into it, and he let Milo go on too long.

I think a lot of folks here hate Milo so much that anything less than total destruction in the interview is not enough. And many also hate Maher for other points, many of which I disagree with as well (against Maher). I get where they're coming from but let's not miss the forest for the trees. Maher wasn't nice to him. He simply let Milo speak and he drives people fucking crazy. Again, I want to underscore, I don't think he should have had him on. But some credit is due, even fleetingly, for having him on the panel afterwards, because I'm pretty sure Bill knew what was going to happen to him, even if he wasn't willing to do it himself.

Milo is basically Gay Anne Coulter. It's a schtick designed to piss you off. Don't fall for it.

And... let's not forget: many people have interviewed this idiot. Channel 4. ABC Nightline. CNBC. (And of course a raft of conservative sources.) Are all of these places "enablers" for speaking to this clown?

Feel free to disagree but I am of the mind that even though Bill's interview, as a choice and as it was conducted, were very disappointing to me, the clip from the panel – give credit to Larry if you like, he certainly deserves some as well! – all happened on Bill's show and seemed to start the snowball rolling. I know about CPAC and the rest, but what I didn't know was that the Republican party actually had a line that was possible to cross, anymore.

Good lord no. Maher was absolutely nice to Milo. He compared him complimentarily to Hitchens. He called his anti-trans bigotry reasonable.

Literally the headlines after the show were Bill and Milo find common ground.

What happened with CPAC and the Reaganites had less than zero to do with Maher.

 

[Oppo]

Fuck Maher.

yeah that is super fucked up. no defending this. he totally abdicated (Maher).

 

[Head of Vengarl]

Really? You try to defend the man by associating him with the identity politics and outrage culture boogeyman fight?

Not the best line if argumentation given the context of this thread

Honestly, "identity politics" is a bullshit phrase that anyone who associates themselves with being left or progressive should be embarrassed of saying.

The thing that cracks me up is when dudes are like "identity politics are holding the left back. Now let's focus on getting the white working man on our side"

I had a feeling people were going to latch on to that term. Calling people out for saying or doing bigoted things is good, but making it the center of left-wing discourse has proven to be a political dead end, as far as I can see. As I said, I'm worried about future elections for Democrats.

I would personally be more concerned with popular self-proclaimed liberal icons like Bill Maher self-righteously embracing bigotry against the trans community in front of millions on TV than anything Left GAF has done.

I won't defend that. I've already criticized Maher for that weak ass episode.

 

[fantomena]

https://www.facebook.com/Breitbart/posts_to_page/

This is fucking great.

 

[plagiarize]

I had a feeling people were going to latch on to that term. Calling people out for saying or doing bigoted things is good, but making it the center of left-wing discourse has proven to be a political dead end, as far as I can see. As I said, I'm worried about future elections for Democrats.

Proven *how*?

 

[Abounder]

No.

They didn't. We know who dug up the offending comments and why.

And they sure as shit weren't Bill Maher fans.

Not everyone that watches is a fan, as seen by this thread lol. Anyway Milo sure as hell went up in hits after Maher's show, love that if there's no correlation at least there's convenient and karmic coincidence

 

[plagiarize]

Not everyone that watches is a fan, as seen by this thread lol. Anyway Milo sure as hell went up in hits after Maher's show, love that if there's no correlation at least there's convenient and karmic coincidence

Karmic coincidence would be Maher being forced to resign too.

Fingers crossed.

 

[Oblivion]

what did you think of the Joan Rivers comparison? just out of curiosity.

I haven't personally heard of the comments that Rivers made, but 1) I'm pretty sure those were not said in the same manner that a fuckstick like Milo would say and 2) if Obama himself wasn't bothered by it, then it's safe to say that he realized her jokes were taken in good stride.

Personally though, I wouldn't have brought it up at all.

 

[hawk2025]

I had a feeling people were going to latch on to that term. Calling people out for saying or doing bigoted things is good, but making it the center of left-wing discourse has proven to be a political dead end, as far as I can see. As I said, I'm worried about future elections for Democrats.



I won't defend that. I've already criticized Maher for that weak ass episode.

Without mincing words -- I find it disgusting that you think attempting to do the bare minimum to help minorities is putting it at the "center".

And even more disgusting to call it a dead end. You would trample over our bodies to win elections.