Don't do this. You and I both understand that isn't what happened here.
Colin Moriarty is leaving Kinda Funny Games.
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Don't do this. You and I both understand that isn't what happened here.
Frozenprince
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Last I checked nobody sewed his mouth shut nor banned him from Twitter or any other avenue within which he can express himself.
So how is his speech being curbed?
it's gonna get scratched?
miller.skippins
Banned
you are right. That's discrimination.
So what you are saying that there's only one 'right way' of thinking in America. The liberal way or the high way. So much for democracy.
Look, if anything else, i am a moderate in the most realistic sense. I support same-sex marriage, the right for ladies to get abortion should they prefer, free speech (to a certain extent), and social security (to a very limited extend) but the liberals in US...especially of those on the net and forums are extremely off putting from someone outside. IT's like all you guys ever think of are high level grand ideals of 'mankind should love all, mankind are all equal, peace and freedom for everyone and EVERYONE AND EVERYCOUNTRY should adapt this mentality OR ELSE!' without any sort of practicality or pragmatism.........you guys have no tolerance for anything that outside your viewpoint and the lack of objectivity is troubling.
"But..but..........if you don't think like me, you are a monster!!! And should be punished!"
You see what i mean? You guys used too much of your heart and not enough of your brain. Not every person should think and feel like you. Not every country should behave like you. But clearly, none of you understand the context of cultural differences, people differences, upbringing differences, and all you guys did is shout and shout and shout (and protest and protest and protest) your high idealism (equality! equality! equality! And if you do not subscribe to this ideal then you are trash!) without truly understand what you are trying to convey...
but i digress. Because i will get ban for not following the general narrative despite 'free speech'.
ClayKavalier
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Him following Jontron is actually surprising to me, I don't follow him very closely but I thought he was just very strongly pro-markets, I wouldn't have suspected him to support someone willing to get with arms-length of saying "White people are just plain better."
Guess if he wants to make a career being a Tomi Lahren-style new media star he needs to start fitting in with his fellow attention-seeking shitheads.
Liberal way or the highway my ass. Start spouting far-left ideas at work constantly. Don't waste any opportunity to advocate free college. Tell anyone who will listen that welfare programs need to be expanded, making sure to try as hard as you can to hold the attention of people who don't seem to care. Spout off your political opinions on social media, and make sure that it is clear who you are employed by. Keep it up for a few weeks and then come back and tell us all about how rough conservatives have it.
If you're still employed I would strongly consider some form of retraining or higher education, your robotic replacement isn't going to get the same utility out of your ability to be a jackass in public.
Guess if he wants to make a career being a Tomi Lahren-style new media star he needs to start fitting in with his fellow attention-seeking shitheads.
Liberal way or the highway my ass. Start spouting far-left ideas at work constantly. Don't waste any opportunity to advocate free college. Tell anyone who will listen that welfare programs need to be expanded, making sure to try as hard as you can to hold the attention of people who don't seem to care. Spout off your political opinions on social media, and make sure that it is clear who you are employed by. Keep it up for a few weeks and then come back and tell us all about how rough conservatives have it.
If you're still employed I would strongly consider some form of retraining or higher education, your robotic replacement isn't going to get the same utility out of your ability to be a jackass in public.
Darryl M R
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Why aren't you responding to my post? Funny how you can't stay on topic.
It's discrimination to want a employee or partner that is not helping business to leave? Lolol. And then tell me about how you care about others with your political views.
You should probably not use the word discrimination again until you know what it means.
jesus christ, you're a load of work
ScientificPizza
Banned
Thats a bit of a reach. Whether you agree or not the gadsden flag *does* have negative connotations attached to it as it has been appropriated by more radical conservatives
Poltergust
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You can't discriminate against a particular person. Discrimination is based off of prejudices, not tied to the actions of a specific individual. If a person is deemed too awful to keep employed then employers have every right to let them go.
Also, free speech does not protect you from getting banned from any site. NeoGAF is not the government.
meanspartan
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The politics yes, the person no.
Im not perfect on this either, I have said unsavory things about Trump voters for sure.
Tragicomedy
Member
Glad he's gone. He's a thin-skinned troll who "tells it like it is" in his imaginary world where his opinion is above criticism. He'll do great selling snake oil to uneducated conservatives.
Colin was wrong, and remains so. Adieu.
Colin was wrong, and remains so. Adieu.
First question, why exactly do you think I was attacking your parents? If it was because I accused them of voting for someone who was running on dicking people over what part of that is factually incorrect? His policies and platform was no secret, people couldn't claim ignorance and you admit to trying to talk to them about it so they obviously knew. If its the truth then why is it an attack? It is what it is.
Second question, is your only option to tell people and minority groups being oppressed to not be angry and voice their opinions to shut up and love everyone even the ones voting and promoting policies that dehumanize them or to hate your parents? You seemingly began and stopped with trying to change your parents mind, one of which may have actually learned something that would be something to work up from. I'm not intentionally being mean, I often times come off cold, but i'm honestly curious do you ever think about why you have the privilege to just give up on fighting for civil liberties and against platform like those being talked about? And if you do give up on being an ally why immediately jump to being angry at those don't give up or for minorities, cannot give up on fighting for their rights? Why immediately jump to telling the ones getting beaten up to love everyone and accept the views literally hurting them?
BobbyRobby
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And military personnel. Veterans make great hires. They are very professional.
You can imagine more embarrassing things. You are lying to give others a distorted view of reality.
Okay. But I also know people who are a fan of the flag because it is an icon of the revolutionary war.
What makes him hateful is the numerous times throughout this thread he has rejoiced that someone is out of a job.
ScientificPizza
Banned
You can't give an example that you've just made up and say "see what I mean". It makes your argument look stupider than it already did
miller.skippins
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so you are saying curbing and mugging a person via 'soft power' is allowed as long as it's not official.
i fail to see how 'free' america is compared to my country.
in my country, it's the govt acting as the judge jury executioner at its whelm.
in america, it's the people of the internet....with a clear lack of objectivity.
instead of debating with him and agree to disagree with him (you know the civilized way of handling disagreement), the internet mugged him by exerting 'soft pressure'.
https://powercoupleproductions.word...iarty-is-why-i-stopped-supporting-kindafunny/
Enough of your concern trolling
SolarMystic
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Differences of opinion/recent events led to some tension mixed with Colin kinda wanting to pursue other interests as evidenced by the topics he's absorbed himself in over the last several months.
Sounds like a career move/change to me.
I'm also assuming that Colin and the KF crew are all telling mostly the truth and I'm not taking into account pure speculation from random people on the internet that have no personal relationship with those involved.
Frozenprince
Banned
"Discrimination" no it isn't. His antics fucked with his companies bottom line. He was bought out, I.e. compensated for the trouble, and left with a mutual understanding that he was damaging the brand and no longer needed.
Jesus. It's like some of you have never entered the working world.
Jesus. It's like some of you have never entered the working world.
Darryl M R
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Curbing and mugging now. Yes yes I see. Continue.
How much do I have to pay for this word salad?
So he decided to follow a bunch of racists and sexists today all of a sudden, of course. Can people who still have their head in the sand finally admit Colin is not a good person? He has views that are hateful to others. It isn't just a matter of having "different views". He spreads hate, that is never a good thing. Especially in this era of Trump.
Jesus Christo, what in the fresh hell is this?
Uno Venova
Banned
I know it's a broken record but his personality pretty much stopped me from getting into kinda funny, and with seeing how cool Tim is, and Greg being one of my favorite personalities from IGN, Colin leaving puts KF right along EZA as the only two video games sites I'll watch now.
The Salt Life
Banned
It sounds like from that podcast he had ideas and Greg wasn't ready for them.....Yet.
Like Colin wanted to do things that Greg didn't want to do until like somewhere around 2 years from now. Almost like Colin wanted to do his own thing but Greg needed him on the shows, but Colin wants to talk with out dragging down kinda funny so they were able to leave on good terms. That podcast made me grow a lot of respect for those guys today and I upped my patreon contribution. They were a family and they all had love for each other and it's just a sad situation. But it will be interesting to hear what he has to say tomorrow. Hopefully we can discuss it here with out it being a hostile environment.
Frozenprince
Banned
What the hell are you even on about? People have been getting fired from their jobs because of bad optics since jobs were a thing! This isn't new and this isn't from the internet.
And Jesus Christ man, he isn't black listed and barred from anything. He's likely going to find a new job relatively quickly given his large following.
Spiral Insanity
Banned
They will regain viewers because of this too.
Frozenprince
Banned
$19.50. lettuce ain't cheap homie.
What are you on about man?
On a very factual level, no, it is not.
After all this, I'm having trouble reconciling the Colin we saw in KF videos and the Colin on Twitter. I don't know whether I should blame Twitter, or Colin himself. Either way, I personally thought his recent message of "getting people to meet in the middle" was pretty great, and I feel a little betrayed today due to that. It feels more impossible than ever to reconcile both sides, and while I know we lack the full context of what happened, it simply looks like he contradicted himself in the end. There are some of us in "the middle", who enjoyed Colin while often disagreeing with him, who end up feeling betrayed by today's news. And that sucks. I was really enjoying KF more than ever this year so far, so it sucks to lose that.
IISANDERII
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Personally I am too. Yet I'm also glad he's left because I strongly opposed his political views and I'm glad he won't be influencing young minds as much.
Yeah it's almost like people are using some sort of verbal power to express themselves. Dunno if anyone has ever articulated a name for that though.
Actually, the above is his tactic when dealing with disagreements, including disagreements over the sexist joke that is at the center of all this. When people used free speech to voice their displeasure or disagreement with that joke, he called them "humorless sacks of shit" and his rabid alt-right / alt-right-adjacent fanbase mobbed them.
Thewonandonly
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Allrifgh fair enough you make good points you really do. Looking back you weren't attacking my parents and I'm sorry for accusing you of that. Anyway I still talk to my step dad about that stuff and he is open to seeing some of my views and I can even change his mind. My mom is close minded tho then just starts showing me political videos on Facebook exspecialky the hot blonde she loves that girl. I'm just kind of sad seeing so many people hate on a guy that has been a big part of my life and has helped me through some really tough times.
i think their point of "oh man who knew tweets could be taken any number of ways" fell flat for me. like...everyone fucking does. it's 2017. how haven't you realized that tweets are a horrible medium for a multitude of things. especially when this isn't even colin's first rodeo when it comes to shitty tweets. so yeah, i'd blame colin.
Darryl M R
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Thanks for sharing that link. I was over here uploading screengrabbeed tweets to imgur. That's a great article.
That's pricey. I might need to start a YouTube channel with a Patreon. I hear dog whistling is in right now.
He very publicly espouses his Libertarian leaning beliefs and has supported these platforms. That quote summarized how those beliefs are inheritantly racist and harm minorities. Its the classic "I support social liberalism, but unfortunately I believe more in my own liberties and finances so i'm ok voting to dick you minorities over. But I still support you, by, you know, saying I do." Do you want to discuss these things or are you one of those that don't believe in casual racism and sexism and literally will only accept pictures of Colin in a white sheet as evidence? I don't think anyone is arguing Colin is a hardcore nazi or racist but for a very long time he has been uninterested in having an honest debate or discussion of why his political views are harmful to minorities. I have personally tweeted him asking about the hypocrisy of saying he supports social liberalism while voting against their interests. He of course ignored it.
Spiral Insanity
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Kinda Funny is a gaming/entertainment channel. From what I can tell from their non-gaming content they want to appeal to a wide and diverse audience. Colin not being able to respect that is a huge issue for them.
They seem to be run pretty professionally, when being held to professional standards that kind of behavior should not be acceptable because it is not healthy for a network like theirs. It divides the community. It hurts and offends people. And it (negatively) influences their young, influential demographic.
Nobody is 'curbing' or 'mugging' anyone, Colin can post and do anything he wants. But that doesn't mean Kinda Funny should have to deal with the repercussions of that.
innervision961
Member
Meeting in the middle is a Trojan horse for the right. Especially when you consider their definition of the "middle".
BobbyRobby
Member
No, I don't know. We must thankfully run in different circles. Enjoy the rest of your time in this thread.
Obliterator
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I do find it kinda weird people totally let Greg and the rest of the crew off the hook for racist / other controversial jokes pretty regularly especially on the Morning Show considering how hard people go in on Colin. Maybe because Colin is just way more outspoken especially on Twitter?
what racist jokes have they made?
Lil'DigiOp
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Ha dude followed JonTron?
No wonder the thread blew up. Dude is a Grade A douchebag.
Id like my views back from his youtube show please.
No wonder the thread blew up. Dude is a Grade A douchebag.
Id like my views back from his youtube show please.
Darryl M R
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Meeting in the middle to have a discussion that maybe it's okay that certain people view minorities as inferior and that we should preserve the white race.*
I don't know what the hell we are going to talk about it. You think I'm lesser than you and you don't believe in racism. Let's agree to disagree and go grab Chic-Fil-A? No.
*To be clear this is not Colin's argument but what is now middle grounds
FinaruDensetsu
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So respectful when it comes to debating that he challenged Bob Mackey aggressively and then called him a coward for not accepting his ridiculous challenge.
Debate isn't for egotists to use it like a dueling pistol so they can proclaim mental superiority. Also from what I've seen on his so called debates with figures in gaming he's quite bad at it.
His brand of debating is belittling and dismissing people who he's deemed less popular than he and fellating people who have more notoriety.
EdReedFan20
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I unsubbed from Kinda Funny a long time ago.
Now that Colin is gone... I'll sub again.
Add me to the Jared Petty camp, would love to see him with the team. Genuinely love the chemistry between Tim and Greg, more so than Colin -- I just love positive vibes, I suppose that's why I love the Easy Allies guys' so much.
What about Vince? He's probably more likely. Jared just started his new job somewhat recently. Vince was just laid off from IGN and (as far as I know) is unemployed at the moment. He said he'd love to join Kinda Funny, but that is up to Greg and the guys. So, it's something he'd be willing to do as for employment. The ball, as they say, seems to be in Kinda Funny's court. He'd bring some good fighting game knowledge, which would come in handy with Injustice 2 coming soon.
Is this xkcd, or just a wannabe? Seems like the latter.
Obliterator
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They've made lots of jokes about semi-nazism in the salutes they like to do, and being "racist" towards Kevin is like basically a running morning gag.
To be honest I find most of that stuff pretty tame and am not bothered by it, but it's not all that different than the infamous "joke" Colin made on Twitter. Idk it just seems people don't really care when the rest of the KF crew do those sorts of things
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