3 new Pokemon Black/White videos from JP Nintendo Channel

Kurtofan said:
I also heard about a Houndoom evo.
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Do not want.
 
DarkWish said:
I'm curious now... who believes Pokexperto and Serebii, and who doesn't? I've been saying since the starter evolutions leaked that they were telling the truth and I'm curious to see how many others are with me.
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Its not a matter of if they are telling the truth or not to me.
They BOTH seem to be "telling the truth" in most cases. But their source could be telling them the wrong shit.

Its pretty clear, for example, that Serebii has NEVER actually seen the starters final form himself which is why he is still flip flopping from "I'm sure these are real! Only a slight chance they arent!" to "I'm not so sure anymore . . . " back to "I'm sure! But I have to cover my ass in case their not . . ." and so on.

These could very well just be fan-arty things made from descriptions of how the starters finals will look in concept (that would explain why wotter looks like complete shit yet still looks kinda otter/ sea liony with a bit of samurai . . . yet lacks anything that could be looked at as a samurai sword or the body to use one) OR they could be failed beta art thats on the "right tracks". They could also just be complete fakes.

W/e it is it seems like Serebii has never seen them first hand before.
As for the other guy . . . yeah, nall I don't believe him. I really don't know what to think of all the shit he says. At the very least it seems like he and serebii have the same source. These seems like WAY too much info to be coming out from ONE site WHIT OUT catching Nintendo's eye. IDK how he could be getting away with this if this is real.

And on top of that I just can't see fire/ fighting being used a 3rd time in a row with only grass and water for the other 2.
 
Black-Wind said:
W/e it is it seems like Serebii has never seen them first hand before.
As for the other guy . . . yeah, nall I don't believe him. I really don't know what to think of all the shit he says. At the very least it seems like he and serebii have the same source. These seems like WAY too much info to be coming out from ONE site WHIT OUT catching Nintendo's eye. IDK how he could be getting away with this if this is real.

And on top of that I just can't see fire/ fighting being used a 3rd time in a row with only grass and water for the other 2.
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Another thing serebii could just be translating what pokexperto has said just adding a few thing but still trying to cover his ass.
 
PounchEnvy said:
I don't remember about a story about
Half-angel children
. Plus why would Pokemon have
death
? It doesn't make sense. I could some that weird stuff in the anime but definitely not the games.
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Ghost Tower in Lavender Town.
Cubone using its mom's skull.
Etc.
 
I wish there was a mode you could play that when your pokemon fainted it died. No longer usable.

Like Nuzlocke only built into the game.
 
Little Green Yoda said:
twelve
new legendaries? with
three
of them being event only? there's already too many of those :lol
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And still less legendaries than Gen IV. Ignore, I don't know how to count.
 
Just read a summary of all the leaked information, on Pokejungle. Pretty excited for everything except those ugly starter evolutions.
 
DarkWish said:
I'm curious now... who believes Pokexperto and Serebii, and who doesn't? I've been saying since the starter evolutions leaked that they were telling the truth and I'm curious to see how many others are with me.
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After reading the latest Pokemon Peer translation I think they're probably real. I've yet to see anything that conclusively disproves them (I could have missed something though, I haven't been paying that much attention to this).

We won't know for sure till more solid information leaks though, which is just the way I like it.
 
Kletian said:
I'm still debating on importing this from Play-Asia. Since I dont understand japanese in the slightest, is there anyway I'll be able to make sense of and enjoy this?
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Can someone answer this question, please?
 
I handled Gold like this back in the day.

It's really not worth it these days though when you're pretty much guaranteed to see the Pokemon game localized a few months later.

Can you though? Yes, It's doable if you work at it and not usually a very hard game to struggle through.
 
Vanille said:
...But you were right. :lol
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Was I? Was I really?

Phew, I'm relieved.

Man God said:
I handled Gold like this back in the day.

It's really not worth it these days though when you're pretty much guaranteed to see the Pokemon game localized a few months later.

Can you though? Yes, It's doable if you work at it and not usually a very hard game to struggle through.
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I'm gonna wait for the superior third version.

I can wait. Last Pokémon game I played was Sapphire.
 
PounchEnvy said:
There's already been some proof of the Starters possibly being faked and shopped.
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I've seen two things in regard to this. One was an error level analysis (which don't understand at all :lol ) and some post on serebii that compared the leaked evos to the confirmed anime sheet leak. Said post was mostly flat-out wrong or just silly, with the one solid point being that the grass snake's evo's "collar" was slightly different between the two.

Was there anything else?
 
HotGarbage said:
I've seen two things in regard to this. One was an error level analysis (which don't understand at all :lol ) and some post on serebii that compared the leaked evos to the confirmed anime sheet leak. Said post was mostly flat-out wrong or just silly, with the one solid point being that the grass snake's evo's "collar" was slightly different between the two.

Was there anything else?
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There's this.
http://i55.tinypic.com/2ibj5w5.jpg
 
Regulus Tera said:
I'm gonna wait for the superior third version.

I can wait. Last Pokémon game I played was Sapphire.
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I wonder how active the 4th gen community will be once B/W hits. If it's still fairly robust, I'll probably be holding out until the 3rd game as well.
 
PounchEnvy said:
There's this.
http://i55.tinypic.com/2ibj5w5.jpg
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Being the devil's advocate here, but if the faker copied Smugleaf2 from the beta artwork, why don't the Smugleaf2s match up, when the Wotter2's line does?

Personally, I don't believe the starters to be real, but I don't think that that pic is good enough evidence for that conclusion.

Little Green Yoda said:
I wonder how active the 4th gen community will be once B/W hits. If it's still fairly robust, I'll probably be holding out until the 3rd game as well.
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The competitive community? I'm pretty sure it will die down almost instantly, or at least until Shoddy is updated with gen V stuff.



OT: Could someone confirm for me that my avatar is within the limits? It should be, but I want to be sure. Thanks.
Avatar removed just in case.
 
DMG-01 said:
Being the devil's advocate here, but if the faker copied Smugleaf2 from the beta artwork, why don't the Smugleaf2s match up, when the Wotter2's line does?

Personally, I don't believe the starters to be real, but I don't think that that pic is good enough evidence for that conclusion.


The competitive community? I'm pretty sure it will die down almost instantly, or at least until Shoddy is updated with gen V stuff.



OT: Could someone confirm for me that my avatar is within the limits? It should be, but I want to be sure. Thanks.
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Looks too big to me.
 
DMG-01 said:
The competitive community? I'm pretty sure it will die down almost instantly, or at least until Shoddy is updated with gen V stuff.
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Well, I'm hoping there will be a sizable number of people who'll stick around for a few months after B/W releases. The previous generation transitions probably had quite a few stragglers as well but w/o online play, those that stayed were forced to stick to single player. The majority will definitely migrate over to gen 5 though.

Maybe I should stop playing the BT and get in more competitive battles while the 4th gen is still alive and kicking! :lol
 
PounchEnvy said:
There's this.
http://i55.tinypic.com/2ibj5w5.jpg
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But... he didn't line them up right at all :(

I did it myself and:

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The two lines don't match up.
Not only are they in different locations but they're also of a different shape. Also no whiskers. ...Or am I missing something here?

EDIT: Beaten by DMG-01

EDIT2: yes when resized your avatar is 90x120. I resized it here for you if you feel safer using that.
 
As I have been given the goahead to reveal this information, I figured I'd let you know about it. Like before when I've posted exclusive information prior to game release, there is a chance that things will have changed from when I got the information up to release so things may not come exactly to pass, but as usual, other bits of information that I have been told have turned out to be accurate.
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* There are 156 new Pokémon within this generation; 153 within normal gameplay and further 3 event Pokémon (#647, #648 & #649) that will be distributed in a manner similar to Darkrai, Shaymin & Arceus in the previous generation

* In regards to a few numbers and details;
o #633 through #635 are a Dark/Dragon-type evolution chain
o #638 is a Steel/Fighting-type Legendary
o #639 is a Rock/Fighting-type Legendary
o #640 is a Grass/Fighting-type Legendary
o #641 is a Pure Flying-type Legendary
o #642 is an Electric/Flying-type Legendary
o Reshiram is to be #643
o Zekrom is to be #644
o #645 is a Ground/Flying-type Legendary
o #646 is a Dragon/Ice-type Legendary
o #647 is a Water/Fighting-type Event Legendary
o #648 is a Normal/Psychic-type Event Legendary
o #649 is a Bug/Steel-type Event Legendary
* In Hiun City, the boats will take you to various islands.

Remember, there is a chance that this will change prior to release of the game.
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Source : serebii.net
 
DMG-01 said:
Being the devil's advocate here, but if the faker copied Smugleaf2 from the beta artwork, why don't the Smugleaf2s match up, when the Wotter2's line does?

Personally, I don't believe the starters to be real, but I don't think that that pic is good enough evidence for that conclusion.
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It's PS, moving things around is easy and you can easily forget they're there. And plus, the faker clearly tried to erase the Wotter so if a part made it into the Smugleaf pic then its just because they forgot that it was there.

Whats important is the scale. With Smugleaf 2 being scaled to the same size as the anime sheet do you think it's just by chance that the line matches Wotter2's head perfectly?


*I made that pic. :P

Edit- Same goes to hotgarbag.
Whats important is scale and shape. if you take the pic scaled correctly and line it up to Wotter's head they match.
 
MemoirsofMimi said:
Can someone answer this question, please?
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I've played through the entirety of Ruby, Diamond and Heart Gold in Japanese, and I don't know a lick of the language either.

With all the graphics and colors, it's really not hard to distinguish which move is which, or which item is which. And that's pretty much all you need to know to get through a Pokemon game.
 
Black-Wind said:
And plus, the faker clearly tried to erase the Wotter
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How can you tell? (I'm genuinely asking here. I am not good with computer photoshop)


Black-Wind said:
Whats important is the scale. With Smugleaf 2 being scaled to the same size as the anime sheet do you think it's just by chance that the line matches Wotter2's head perfectly?
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But it doesn't match up perfectly. See:

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And questionably emphasized with horrid gimp skills:

2gx1m49.jpg


The shape of the two lines is different. You could claim that the line was edited and moved in the photoshopping process... but then it becomes a "possibility" rather than "hard evidence" does it not? Or, once again, am I missing something here?

EDIT: oh yeah, DMG-01... are you who I think you are :lol ? (If you don't immediately know what I'm talking about the answer is no :P)
 
HotGarbage said:
I've seen two things in regard to this. One was an error level analysis (which don't understand at all :lol ) and some post on serebii that compared the leaked evos to the confirmed anime sheet leak. Said post was mostly flat-out wrong or just silly, with the one solid point being that the grass snake's evo's "collar" was slightly different between the two.

Was there anything else?
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kman3000 said:
Normally I wouldn't but everything he says matches up.

For example:http://i53.tinypic.com/2dt92bq.gif

So he is actually backing what he is saying, while Serebii and the other sites are not.

So I will believe what this Anon is saying until Serebii posts more then: "Some spanish site told me so!!!"

Also Serebii has been posting a lot of fakes lately that he say's "are probably real". So why should we believe him this time?

Also remember this: http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Shaymin ? (Kind of NSFW btw.)

He's done this shit before...

So basically, even though I actually don't mind the supposed evolutions, I will wait until Pokemon Sunday, Corocoro, or the actually game reveals whether they are real or fake.
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kman3000 said:
http://i350.photobucket.com/albums/q419/Joshidreamwalker/StarterFake.jpg

Evos are probably fake, for real this time.
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These, plus the interview with Sugimori who gives descriptions of what the starters become that conflicts with the supposed revealed evolutions, does a pretty good job proving that they're probably fake.
 
HotGarbage said:
How can you tell? (I'm genuinely asking here. I am not good with computer photoshop)
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because of the large amount of crap people have pointed out other then just this that shows that these were tracings of the anime sheet. From color mistakes to line mistakes to so on and so on. Theres any number of ways you can go about tracing something in PS that could result in a mistake like this (a forgotten layer/ a crowded layout which could explain the stupid boards and so on) so I can't point out ONE because I have no clue which way he did it.


But it doesn't match up perfectly. See:
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You're taking to much of the low-res Wotter line from the anime sheet. The one with Smugleaf is clearly cleaned up a bit with the lack of whiskers but when placed on top of Wotter goes along with it's head as you can see in the overlay.
 
The issue i have with the leaked artwork is that is an anime reference sheet but it doesnt have the starters base forms. I dont know why they are both in the same sheet of paper but they're not together to compare their sizes so why are they in the same sheet?
 
joetachi said:
The issue i have with the leaked artwork is that is an anime reference sheet but it doesnt have the starters base forms. I dont know why they are both in the same sheet of paper but they're not together to compare their sizes so why are they in the same sheet?
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Thats another thing, this has apparently been proven to be closest to "anime art" as it's not the same as the official art of Pokemon in coloring style and so on (in other words, the faker didn't color it like official art). And in anime art they are lined up for scale . . . so why is everything the same size?
 
HotGarbage said:
How can you tell? (I'm genuinely asking here. I am not good with computer photoshop)



But it doesn't match up perfectly. See:

5aqb1l.jpg


And questionably emphasized with horrid gimp skills:

2gx1m49.jpg


The shape of the two lines is different. You could claim that the line was edited and moved in the photoshopping process... but then it becomes a "possibility" rather than "hard evidence" does it not? Or, once again, am I missing something here?

EDIT: oh yeah, DMG-01... are you who I think you are :lol ? (If you don't immediately know what I'm talking about the answer is no :P)
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