guybrushfreeman
Unconfirmed Member
I agree it was an important update. The current title (? is new right?) is just right I think
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Lego City Undercover Switch cover mentions 13GB download [Up3: Full game on card]
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I agree it was an important update. The current title (? is new right?) is just right I think
Waluigilicious
Member
The Switch version, at least in the later stages, was developed alongside the Wii U version. Not to mention they were released at the same time, not four years apart.
I demoed the PS4 version and the opening cut-scene was definitely a video (there was obvious artifacting and it looked worse than actual gameplay) and not running live in-engine. Was the Wii U version like that for the opening?
Waluigilicious
Member
From the wording of the PR it sounds like he is just stating the obvious. You do not need to download the "game" because that's the 7gb on the cartridge. In the same way that it's 7gb on the eshop. This does not clear up the internet required text on the cover and why the patch or update or whatever you want to call it is huge.
IF "internet required" is simply them playing it safe when the game is actually mostly playable without the internet and therefore downloading of the rest of the game, then in my opinion they've made a mistake by putting that on the FRONT of the cover and also not using different wording. Come on now, they aren't stupid enough to limit sales like that if their game is playable without the update, right?
IF "internet required" is simply them playing it safe when the game is actually mostly playable without the internet and therefore downloading of the rest of the game, then in my opinion they've made a mistake by putting that on the FRONT of the cover and also not using different wording. Come on now, they aren't stupid enough to limit sales like that if their game is playable without the update, right?
So, we can start the game, play the intro mission (I don't know, I haven't played the WiiU ver) but then required to download the rest?
A slippery slope indeed.
Gamezone
Gold Member
I don`t know, but the article might explain why they are doing this. Bigger cartridge = more expensive. And if Nintendo is fine with this....
Straight up incorrect. Games on other platforms work, even without a patch. Some might have bugs, that require a patch, buts that's not close to being the same thing.
Gamezone
Gold Member
Except that these patches aren`t obligatory.
Not really, since if the 13GB download mention is right, they're using a 8GB card. Just Dance 2017 use a 16GB card and is exactly the same price as LEGO City. They don't really have an excuse to cheap it out that far.
Gamezone
Gold Member
Maybe the Just Dance publisher wants to avoid threads like these.
Beer Monkey
Member
I'm guessing less than 8GB, that would make like 21+ GB total. Remember, the X1 digital version is 17.7GB and has 1080p cutscenes.
That's on online game, though. Every online game eventually requires a patch if you want to play online.
Waluigilicious
Member
The Bomberman cover also mentions a required download and as you all know there's no such thing.
Hmm that's 300kb though so maybe it's to do with save data or piracy measures or something? Like you said though it's not required and Zelda doesn't have something like that on the back of the case so it is strange.
Edit: Hold on, for both Bomberman and Lego it says required for game "download" not game"play" so what does this even mean? This gets more and more curious. Maybe the 13gb on the back of the cover isn't required after all, so all we have left now is the Internet required warning on the front of the case.
The Bomberman cover also mentions a required download and as you all know there's no such thing.
PAL back cover doesn't have that warning.
Minsc
Gold Member
Seems unlikely, if that were the case, the eShop wouldn't list the size as 7GBs, it reports installed game sizes.
guybrushfreeman
Unconfirmed Member
This is only even more confusing. It's 100% next to the icon used for the internet though so it's not talking about installing from the cart and it's tiny unlike this one. Lego also does say 'internet required' on the front very clearly. Well..... no.... nothing about this is clear at all
The Bomberman cover also mentions a required download and as you all know there's no such thing.
Hmm, interesting. THe fact that it is there are as well, in the same warning message style, could mean that this is a standard warning required by Nintendo for future patches maybe? It definitely isn't something that hints at specific download requirements necessarily at least.
Interesting...Which makes it all the more strange that this label is reporting double that size. Unless the eShop info isn't up to date for some reason.
Armorous
Member
Does the case actually say 13GB storage required to play the game? Imagine players who don't have a microsd card and already have 32GB (Subtract OS Overhead) worth of storage used would be forced to clear space on their console, when the game does not mention this requirement?
EDIT: NVM I didn't see the latest images of the back of the case where it specifically says 13GB. This seems excessive though if the cart could actually support more of the game without needing internal storage.
EDIT: NVM I didn't see the latest images of the back of the case where it specifically says 13GB. This seems excessive though if the cart could actually support more of the game without needing internal storage.
I still find it suspect that it's "up to 13gb required." If it really were a 13gb mandatory download you'd think they'd put "13gb required" or even "approximately 13gb required."
I guess we won't know anything for sure until the 7th, which sucks as I'd be perfectly willing to pre-order if this hadn't happened.
I guess we won't know anything for sure until the 7th, which sucks as I'd be perfectly willing to pre-order if this hadn't happened.
The plot thickens. Maybe it's a Trump's download tax ?!
Waluigilicious
Member
Oh ffs!
Beer Monkey
Member
Extract to what? To RAM? Then it would need to do it every time, and loading the game would be minutes long. Extract to SD? Then it would be a mandatory install and would claim the space permanently.
This isn't how cartridges work. The point of a cartridge is being able to access game assets quickly and directly.
Kagoshima_Luke
Gold Member
lol
Thanks WB! Your eloquent and comprehensive response has made me feel so much better. No way I'm buying this until it's verified that there isn't a ridiculous double digit GB download on day one.
JetSetRadio
Banned
We need 'console exclusive' and 'only on switch' labels to get this party really started.
Undead Fantasy
Member
The Bomberman cover also mentions a required download and as you all know there's no such thing.
Cam anyone start the game without the download to see if it runs?
KennyLinder
Member
I would bet a specific game mode requires the download.
Gamezone
Gold Member
Now we`re just desperate.
I haven't played it since it first came out but there's only the main game unless as I said the open world is on the card and all the missions need to be downloaded, which is still terrible.
Waluigilicious
Member
My friend brought his copy around and we played it on my Switch no problem at the hospital where the Switch hasn't been connected to the internet.
Granted though we live in the UK which apparently doesn't have that same warning lol.
Gamezone
Gold Member
Yes..?
Undead Fantasy
Member
It's a bullshit practice that doesn't need to exist.
Carts are expected to be usable without having to download anything else
Ohhh, I misunderstood what the thread was about. Yeah, I can see what people were getting anxious about.
Pancake Mix
Copied someone else's pancake recipe
It releases very soon. Eurogamer will have an update.
If it is somehow playable without the download, my guess is that every voice and mission is included in that update and without it you can just explore the world.
That or the PR person is not telling the truth.
If it is somehow playable without the download, my guess is that every voice and mission is included in that update and without it you can just explore the world.
That or the PR person is not telling the truth.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
I'd like a detailed answer for why they have a system about 3 times as powerful as Wii U yet can only get it running at 720p.
I don't use "lazy devs" often, but this points to a terrible or rushed port job.
I don't use "lazy devs" often, but this points to a terrible or rushed port job.
With this new statement I wonder if the game doesn't download the cutscenes for the story when needed in the background. That would explain the required internet access. And that means that it manages the storage somehow dynamically. I wonder if it lets the player choose to keep everything.
This was supposed the be the biggest issue but another interesting one got bought up by some: the price of the game.
Is it supposed to be some remaster, enhanced version?
With stuff like this it makes you wonder about the theories that 3rd parties dont wanna see a Nintendo console succeed. I mean this sucks even if you look at the Switch as a handheld first.
I also see its $60 on PS4, XBO so its just strange by WB. The other platforms I can understand....but on the Switch?
Price parity?
Just saw the updated thread title...
The plot thickens...lol
Pancake Mix
Copied someone else's pancake recipe
Not detailed but, best answer is probably them not bothering to optimise for docked?
Doubt it's a terrible port job at all, but it might be rushed.
How was the framerate?
Waluigilicious
Member
(Bomberman) I'm not very good at seeing the difference especially in table top mode but it was smooth there was no slow down or anything.
Pancake Mix
Copied someone else's pancake recipe
If the back of the case doesn't say there's a mandatory download, then chances are the European version is a full fat 32GB game card.
Waluigilicious
Member
(Bomberman) How is that possible when apparently the carts are expensive (hence this topic in the first place). Maybe that would explain this game being nowhere to be found in the UK for a couple of weeks now. Is it readily available elsewhere?
Wow, can you imagine if the EU version is a 32GB cart with the entire game+data on it, and the NA version is an 8GB cart that requires the 13GB data download?
The outrage would be EPIC (rightfully so).
EDIT: hmm, since Switch is region free, watch everyone in NA start importing EU carts if that's the case -- I think that's what I might do if it does turn out to be that way.