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CNBC: US military has launched more than 50 missiles aimed at Syria: NBC News
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Japan, UAE and Bahrain to pro
Yep.
If ai made a 70 million dollar warning I would be bummed at a 50% success rate.
DXB-KNIGHT
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This will be upscaled in Iranian and Hezbollah media although based on their media Saudi Arabia and Israel are already in bed.
ChemicalCutthroat
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That 50% success rate is coming from Russian and Syrian reports. Propaganda goes both ways, but I'm still more inclined to believe my allies than my enemies.
TheRealTalker
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and New Zealand and Netherlands
the pro list is pilling on as the hours go by
every ME country is focusing on hating Iran right now... seeing as Iran is pushing its expansionist nose on everyone
even Oman left the Iran love pile
MikeHaggar
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Absolutely. The House and Senate are investigating it. The leaks from the Intelligence Community already all but confirm collusion. Clearly something was going on between the Russians and Trump's campaign...
Dubbedinenglish
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The conflict will never end as long as Assad is in power.
Russian involvement wasn't an issue for the Trump administration up until 2 weeks ago. The chemical attack changed policy quite quickly... so it's hard to know where the Trump administration stands now. I don't think this is some grand strategy, I literally think this is just Trump and Mattis wanting to respond to the chemical attack and choosing to do so in as limited a way as possible.
I don't think it's about pressuring Assad or Russia into withdrawing or demureing.
Wow, some people are actually saying that Assad wasn't the one ho used the chemical attacks and could be any of the neighboring countries.
WTF?
I should stop reading comments under news article
The current Russian deflection line is "why would crazy, psychotic people do something that shows how crazy and psychotic they are? Must be a false flag!"
jakonovski
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Warning that the president is unstable.
DontBeThatGuy
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Some of you have no idea what you're talking about or why thing happen (or don't happen). Spoiler: Hypocrites. Hypocrites everywhere.
Anyways... I'm fucking floored by how some of the most toxic Trump supporters are reacting, seeing it in real time in person... Those most racist motherfuckers over here saying "He bombed the country, unjustly". It's like I'm taking crazy pills here.
Of course, you also have a couple folks on some "bomb them all" (essentially kill all the brown people ), who think that's the endgame here, "That's how you do it!". I expect that.
So, both are misreading what's happening, and both are still horrible human beings for slightly different reasons. I have no interest telling the former he's off the mark here.
SDCowboy
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And Australia.
Agreed, it re-establishes the deterrent on using chemical weapons.
ISee
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It is even much more complicated then this. There are rebels that fight against putin and assad, of course they are called is terrorist by the Syrian and Russian media. Then there are IS troops still holding some territory. Then there are kurds in the north which were supplied and trained by the germans which are supposed to fight the IS, but are right now busy fighting of a push by the Turkish military because they are terrorist in the eyes of erdogan. Then we have turkey which has German troops stationed at its border to Syria because they asked for german anti missile defence. And now we have the u.s. bombing Assad. It is a mess.
If assad falls we will have several parties rushing out for control while the kurds will try to found their own state while erdogan would try to stop them with force.
MistakenMobius
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You never see the islamozionist nickname?
Very popular in chi'ite circle
CrossTrigger
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As much as I dislike this government at the moment, this was America pushing for Russia to hold up there end of the 2013 agreement that stated Syria would dismantle and dispose of there chemical weapon stockpile. Obviously that didn't happen.
Also this was a warning shot for sure, they didn't hit any key structures or even the runway. They hit a cafeteria/classroom, some busted MIG-23 fighters and a radar station.
Also this was a warning shot for sure, they didn't hit any key structures or even the runway. They hit a cafeteria/classroom, some busted MIG-23 fighters and a radar station.
Yeah, two nations guilty of mass genocide, one in Gaza and the other in Yemen, preaching morality, laughable. KSA literally bombed a funeral house killing hundreds and got away clean, guess it pays to be an American ally.
DontBeThatGuy
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Warning's don't bring back the dead, a warning made after the Trump admin declared they had no intention of a "regime change". Trump to Assad: "Do your thing"... Oops.
Regardless, Syria took this as a slap on the wrist, and will continue their atrocities, while the US does the same.
TheRealTalker
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what SA is doing to civilians in Yemen is bad and should be condemned but let's not kid ourselves in believing Iran hasn't done worse kiddo
but then again stating this isn't going to change your mind knowing you
AcademicSaucer
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They are tho, by virtue of both being the US closest allies in the Middle East
Thanks. Will read those all but already based on TheGuardian's article, seems pretty evident that it couldn't have just been some air strike with regular bombs hitting supposed chemical weapon storages that caused whatever poison it was to spread to such large areas.
Alex_Mexico
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Do we have word on who the terrorist in Stockholm was? Please dont be a Muslim. Please dont be a Muslim. Please dont be a Muslim.....
We'll see. Trump has established that he is willing to use direct military force in Syria based on Assad's actions, so it will certainly give them pause. The implication is that if there is another chemical attack the resulting retaliation from the US would be more broad and effective.
Lan Dong Mik
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Wow I thought for sure this was an act of war on our part. We bombed a country's military base and killed Syrian soldiers. I guess I just don't really get how it works, but I thought for sure Trump started WW3 last night due to the fact that Russian soldiers were also stationed there.
First of all, I'm probably older than you.
Second, the difference being, Saudis can kill all they want and get away with it, I don't remember the Iranians bombing funeral houses, if they were I'm pretty sure they US would be sending Tomahawk warning shots in their direction as we speak.
bggrthnjsus
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Yeah the attack was pretty conservative, probably because Russian were close. It was intended to be a show of force and send a message. I suppose Mattis would have brought this plan to Trump?
Russia can't really afford to get into something like WWIII right now. Depending on the escalation from here, tensions could and probably will certainly rise, but jumping to the WWIII conclusion at this time is premature. There's too much at stake for...basically everyone.
https://twitter.com/PressSec/status/850362060407963650
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WH photo (ed for security): @potus receives briefing on #syria military strike fr Nat Security team
Ya it doesn't really work that way. The US has a long history of firing missiles into other sovereign nations. Mind, Syria is more of a powder keg than others in the past, but a limited strike like this was never likely to start WW3... on it's own.
TheRealTalker
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No Iran just massacred hundred of thousands of people in Syria and Iraq
you just need to look at the Syria live map to see the never ending list for Iranian atrocities
plus US ones and Russian ones, etc...
the Saudis strikes in Yemen also should be condemned but compared to those three they are 4th place
OH FUCK
Bannon put on a suit?!
He still looks like a meatloaf that's been left on the dashboard of a truck for 2 weeks though.
ultratruman
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They're still counting the bodies
smokeymicpot
Beat EviLore at pool.
Looks oddly like the Obama raid photo.
Would assume it's intentional. Makes for a good photo op for him I'd imagine.
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Audioboxer
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The BBC article I posted is a lot more damning
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39531045
As above they also still believe Sarin could be at the airbase.
There comes a point when you have to ask yourself why you're airing on the side of Assad/Russian propaganda in the face of all the evidence (not necessarily yourself, just asking for reading/source material).
DontBeThatGuy
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Assad doesn't need chemicals to wage war on his own people.
Maintenance
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Oh look, Bannon.
Where's Pence?
Lonewulfeus
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Watching the media trip over themselves to praise trump now like none of the prior issues even happened is just extremely disheartening.
Strike wasn't, but say 20 Russian troops were killed?
Tensions spiraling out of control have a long history and is the reason for calculated responses and for the geopolitical institutions built after WWII.
Does anyone think this administration has any regard for either?
Of course not. I don't think Trump cares much about that however.
Like I said earlier in the thread, it'll be interesting to see what Trump's response is when Assad barrel bombs another hospital.
Mattis can be trusted to be a check on any idiotic plan that would escalate to full on armed conflict. As much as this seems like a random action of a President lashing out, this was one of several carefully thought out responses that have likely been circulating for years within the armed services. The goal was to limit casualties (especially Russian).
It's baffling to see how romanticized fucking missile strikes are. All of the glee and chest puffing over this is beyond disgusting.
Where's Pence? Why would an insurance policy attend a briefing?
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