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[jfkgoblue]

This is sounds like a mega version of Barrel Bombs!

How are Civilians not going to get caught up in this?

Trump the irrational is responsible for ANY civilian deaths.

Its highly unlikely that any civilians were hit. Afghanistan is very remote without anybody around for miles and miles. The only way it did was if a nomad was really unlucky and in the area, but the chances of that are slim.

i like this one:

"This thing weighs 10 ton. You could drop 10 ton of anything onto a target and it will destroy the target.Ten ton of toilet paper will destroy a target...."

Lol some people...

 

[Zophar]

I don't think I will ever forgive people who justified letting Clinton lose because Trump would be "better" at foreign policy. You goddamn dense motherfuckers.

 

[OriginofHysteria]

When was the last time we used this bomb?

The Empire used it to destroy Scarif.

 

[TheGameshark]

And that was only half of its original intended yield. The entire idea of bombs of that tier is terrifying.

Yeah didn't they weaken it because they were afraid it would crack the earth?

 

[Muffin1611]

I think I would prefer Trump being Putins puppet to Trump vs. Putin dick measuring contest with bombs.

I don't think they're mutually exclusive.

 

[Kyzer]

Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems pretty ignorant to think there's not a single innocent person within a 2-mile diameter.

its the desert...its even more empty than MGSV would have you think

im not sure how many ISIS we even killed

 

[Foffy]

Just to get a better idea of the blast radius of this bomb, this is how it looks over NYC:

I would be hardpressed to not consider that a nuke blast..

 

[RustyNails]

Guys remember when they said it was Hillary who was more a warhawk?

 

[echoshifting]

Yeah they had to reduce it or else their bombers would get caught up in it if memory serves correct.

And even after the reduction the bombers still only had a 50/50 shot

I don't think they reduced it for their benefit, they just couldn't get it on a plane

 

[Carl2291]

He did say he was gonna bomb the shit out of them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWejiXvd-P8

 

[FTF]

Whoa...that's a huge blast radius, the civilian casualties I fear could be high so really need to see what the isis to civilian casualty #s are.

Like most others though, I have no faith in anyone associated with this administration, etc.

 

[TwntyOneTwlv]

Not that this isn't a bad thing, because it definitely is. But this bomb isn't even remotely comparable to a nuclear bomb. According to the Wikipedia article on the MOAB, its yield is 11 tons. The bomb dropped on Hiroshima was approximately 1,400 times more powerful than that.

Even so, what the fuck does President Fuck-stick think he's doing?

 

[Electric Eye]

Trump probably wanted to use a nuke but after having a sit down he settled for the MOAB. He's the type of simpleton that thinks tossing all the bombs at his enemies will win him a war and he'll get a victory parade like in the movies kinda like W.

 

[kevin1025]

How is a bomb with a blast radius of a mile not considered a WMD?

I guess it depends on the owner.

 

[E-Cat]

Guys remember when they said it was Hillary who was more a warhawk?

She was, in rhetoric. Of course, anyone with half a brain could see that Trump was a pathological liar. So, about half of America.

 

[bananafactory]

I'm not one to defend Trump but this is an honest question - are civilian casualties and collateral damage not inevitable in warfare?

Again that's not defending this particular action, just speaking broadly.

 

[Onemic]

Is this the same bomb as that friendly fire bombing today as well?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-killing-18/?tid=sm_fb&utm_term=.821fe5c7e79e

 

[Ekdrm2d1]

So the Alt-Right doesn't want to start wars and to start bombing nations..

Will they appreciate this ISIS target though?

 

[Netherscourge]

Wolf Blitzer is probably begging CNN to let him cover the explosion stuff.

He was genetically engineered to cover war and explosions. Fires and smoke are OK too.

 

[louiedog]

Just to get a better idea of the blast radius of this bomb, this is how it looks over NYC:

Goodbye Chicago Loop.

 

[DarkLordMalik]

I mean...it just happened and is breaking news? Every single website and news channel isn't going to cut in simultaneously to report on a bomb being used on ISIS.

It just happened in the past few hours

I know guys. I guess I panicked when I saw the title.

 

[TheZink]

Whoa...that's a huge blast radius, the civilian casualties I fear could be high so really need to see what the isis to civilian casualty #s are.

Like most others though, I have no faith in anyone associated with this administration, etc.

It's been reported they dropped it in a remote area of tunnels isis has been using

 

[djplaeskool]

i like this one:

"This thing weighs 10 ton. You could drop 10 ton of anything onto a target and it will destroy the target.Ten ton of toilet paper will destroy a target...."

 

[FTF]

The dropped it in a remote area of tunnels isis has been using

Yeah, I tweaked my wording as didn't see that.

 

[Pai Pai Master]

its the desert...its even more empty than MGSV would have you think

im not sure how many ISIS we even killed

ISIS uses human shields to prevent shit like this. That doesn't matter much to Trump's people.

 

[Glix]

He must have the tiniest little orange penis in the world.

 

[TheZink]

Yeah, I tweaked my wording as didn't see that.

No worries

 

[Kyzer]

Guys remember when they said it was Hillary who was more a warhawk?

this is so irrelevant but if you really wanna bring it up she literally agreed with his strike in syria and said we should have done more than that. theres really no reason to bring it up anyways

its the far right and far left who dont agree with intervention in syria, ironically

 

[MattKeil]

its the desert...its even more empty than MGSV would have you think

im not sure how many ISIS we even killed

Probably not many, considering the MOAB is an airburst bomb and not a bunker buster. The MOAB creates a massive firestorm, but using it against underground tunnels doesn't seem like what it's made for. I guess the idea could be that the tunnels are a soft enough target that it could penetrate and send the firestorm through the tunnels, burning everyone and everything out.

 

[Amir0x]

top-down view of a MOAB:

I don't know why it's labeled MOAB, but that's an image from the last detonation of the BLU-82 Daisy Cutter.

 

[UnObtainium17]

its the desert...its even more empty than MGSV would have you think

im not sure how many ISIS we even killed

Idk about that. Isis doesn't seem to be the type of people to just huddle in a small circle in a middle of a nowhere.. achin district according to Wikipedia has a population of 95k in 2006. Was the home of mujaheddin too during the soviet occupation.

 

[CrimzonSamurai]

I think that border area is largely uninhabited outside of taliban and Isis so hopefully there won't be any civilian casualties.

 

[Kinyou]

i like this one:

"This thing weighs 10 ton. You could drop 10 ton of anything onto a target and it will destroy the target.Ten ton of toilet paper will destroy a target...."

"Weapon manufacturers hate him!

How one man's simple trick saved the US military billions"

 

[Kyzer]

Idk about that. Isis doesn't seem to be the type of people to just huddle in a small circle in a middle of a nowhere.. achin district according to Wikipedia has a population of 95k in 2006. Was the home of mujaheddin too during the soviet occupation.

there was a tunnel system that we targeted with the MOAB, I think that was the main goal

Probably not many, considering the MOAB is an airburst bomb and not a bunker buster. The MOAB creates a massive firestorm, but using it against underground tunnels doesn't seem like what it's made for. I guess the idea could be that the tunnels are a soft enough target that it could penetrate and send the firestorm through the tunnels, burning everyone and everything out.

LT. General on CNN said its exactly good for this kind of thing and was developed not only for saddam targets but to take out remote caves

 

[DarkLordMalik]

top-down view of a MOAB:

Scary.

 

[JHoNNy1OoO]

I'm not one to defend Trump but this is an honest question - are civilian casualties and collateral damage not inevitable in warfare?

Again that's not defending this particular action, just speaking broadly.

Yes innocents will die in war. You try to minimize them however. Using an ordinance with a 1 mile radius of destruction instead of more precise weaponry pretty much says you don't give a fuck about who you kill.

 

[kess]

Argue with the rightest of the right, and they'll tell you there is no such thing as collateral damage.

So much for surgical strikes, when you can denude the countryside just to make a point.

 

[Flo_Evans]

ISIS uses human shields to prevent shit like this. That doesn't matter much to Trump's people.

Probably quite a few hostages and POWs awaiting beheading.

 

[Sojgat]

Oh for fuck's sake.

 

[Vixdean]

If the idea was to destroy a tunnel system with one strike then I guess that makes sense. Honestly I could see Obama prohibiting use of these things just for the optics, even if it made military sense.

 

[A Fish Aficionado]

Yeah they had to reduce it or else their bombers would get caught up in it if my memory serves correct.

Tsar Bomba could have theoretically yielded as much as 100 megatons, but it would have resulted in a dangerous level of nuclear fallout (approximately 25% of all fallout produced since the invention of nuclear weapons in 1945). Additionally, the delivery plane would not have had sufficient time to retreat to a safe distance. Therefore, to minimize nuclear fallout, the third stage incorporated a lead tamper instead of a uranium-238 fusion tamper. It has been speculated that the second stage used this method as well.

http://www.atomicheritage.org/history/tsar-bomba

 

[e_i]

I wonder why the news media has been slow to report this. Huffingtonpost should have a screaming headline right now.

 

[KingSnake]

I hope they had insanely precise intel on this target. Otherwise, it's mass killing of civilians.

 

[bananafactory]

Yes innocents will die in war. You try to minimize them however. Using an ordinance with a 1 mile radius of destruction instead of more precise weaponry pretty much says you don't give a fuck about who you kill.

Right.

Just clarifying that people understand that as awful as it is innocents will die. Not disagreeing that this seems like an irresponsible move.

 

[Amir0x]

Scary.

That's not the MOAB though, BLU-82 Daisy Cutter blast.

 

[Last_colossi]

Scary.

Like Amri0x said that is the BLU-82 Daisy Cutter which is 5 times smaller (in blast radius) than the MOAB Bomb.

 

[Piggus]

I don't think I will ever forgive people who justified letting Clinton lose because Trump would be "better" at foreign policy. You goddamn dense motherfuckers.

Neither will I, but do you actually think Clinton wouldn't have given the go-ahead here? If you have an opportunity to take out a bunch of ISIS tunnels out in the middle of nowhere, you take it. Any president would have okayed this.

Right.

Just clarifying that people understand that as awful as it is innocents will die. Not disagreeing that this seems like an irresponsible move.

How can it be called an irresponsible move when we don't even know where it was used?

 

[kswiston]

I would be hardpressed to not consider that a nuke blast..

Fatman, the bomb dropped on Nagasaki, was 21 kilotons. Close to 2000x more powerful than this bomb.

 

[Electric Eye]

I think that border area is largely uninhabited outside of taliban and Isis so hopefully there won't be any civilian casualties.

I mean if there were any it's gonna be days if ever to find any piece of anything that was near there.

 

[studyguy]

That's an enormous blast radius good lord.