Fox Mulder
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Yeah, of course he pulls out a fucking moab. Lol.
He's going to drop a nuke on someone before he's done. Even if to kill some Isis roaches.
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CNN: US drops its largest conventional bomb (MOAB) on ISIS target in Afghanistan
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Yeah, of course he pulls out a fucking moab. Lol.
He's going to drop a nuke on someone before he's done. Even if to kill some Isis roaches.
WhiteRabbitEXE
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450ft fireball I imagine. The 1-mile is the radius of the concussive wave, and area far closer than that maximum range is not necessarily lethal. So it's being talked up a bit. And yet still, it's a fucking MOAB.
Can he play the "not even Hitler" card this time?
And will probably kill more civilians we don't care about am i right?
When someone says "isis target" just replace that with "general area we think terrorists might be"
And to use a bomb of that magnitude..
Sorry, when you've killed over 1000 civilians in strikes you literally don't even mention since taking office, there is no real benefit of a doubt there...the people Trump has controlling the military are even more disregarding of things than Obama's drone warfare program.
When someone says "isis target" just replace that with "general area we think terrorists might be"
And to use a bomb of that magnitude..
Sorry, when you've killed over 1000 civilians in strikes you literally don't even mention since taking office, there is no real benefit of a doubt there...the people Trump has controlling the military are even more disregarding of things than Obama's drone warfare program.
GuessMyUserName
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I didn't say anything about people, Trump cares about headlines.
Pretty much. Not even worth comparing.
Steeped in a Sea of Games
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I will say this, the bombing may have been planned for a couple of months, but something tells me that lots of plans like this get tossed around and planned out, but someone still has to be willing to push the button and sign off on these missions. There's probably a shitton of military plans that never get carried out despite a lot of planning. I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't approved fairly recently.
Pai Pai Master
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Yeah Fuckin love how Trump made such a big deal about not supporting the war (he did) and now all he's done since taking office is escalate shit further
He's the commander in chief. At the end of the day he is responsible for military operations.
If he didn't know about this that would be even more terrifying.
To put it in perspective- the MOAB has the power of an 11-ton weapon, the nuke dropped on Hiroshima was 1.5Kton, making this .00735% as powerful. The largest US nuke detonated was 15MTon, making this .00000074% as powerful.
ah that makes sense.
WordAssassin
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So in the Syria thread we had a lot of people going over the price of all those Tomahawk missiles, how much did this cost us?
Doc Holliday
SPOILER: Columbus finds America
Spicer "Weapons of mass destruction will not be tolerated"
sigh, what a fucking joke
sigh, what a fucking joke
What are these facts doing here? I just want to pointlessly scream nukes and Trump!
The 15,00 pound daisy cutter that was used to destroy tunnels in Afghanistan has been retired, leaving the MOAB as the only option for a large bomb. Not really that exciting.
A B-2 can carry 40,000 pounds of bombs. Is it a weapon of mass destruction?
And how many of those that survived or lost loved ones now hate America more than they ever would have before? These large-scale, indiscriminate bombings do nothing but perpetuate the cycle of hatred/violence.
Whether Trump or Obama were ultimately responsible for this, I vehemently disagree with it.
Is the President supposed to approve every bombing in Afghanistan? I'm seriously asking because it sounds pretty inefficient.
Anyway, of all the things Trump does, keep fighting ISIS in Afghanistan is not something that really horrifies me.
GiantEnemyGoomba
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Hopefully no one innocent was killed
I would imagine tomahawks cost more. Self propelled missile vs basically a gravity bomb that can adjust its course.
wesleyshark
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He doesn't have to sign off on every single one, no.
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
it says right in the article that its never been used in combat ever
Russian Father of All Bombs thermobaric bomb. The pressure cloud is instant before the snap explosion.
I would say this is essentially more terrifying because you have nuclear level style devastation, without any environmental after effects and so people more willing to use it. No radiation, nothing. You have just evaporated all matter and eviscerated in a large radius. If this enters widespread US and Russian and future Chinese or Indian use, you could see a whole new form of warfare emerge. You could say what is the difference between this and a predator drone strike, cruise or scud missile. But this is a very deadly new style of bomb.
koji kabuto
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ISIS wants to take everyone down, Latterly everyone.
Doesn't matter to them if you are a jihadist or liberal, if they were Americans they would be the kind of people who would believe in pizzagate, Sandy Hook conspiracy and reptilians.
He's the one who said he wants to INTENTIONALLY TAKE OUT THE FAMILIES OF ISIS. committing war crimes by intentionally blowing civilians to bits. What nuance is there???
uhhh, I think this thread is because it's being reported on.
gamechanger87
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Lot of hyperbole here. It's not like they dropped this on a town.
Its essentially a large bomb that doesn't penetrate but relies on a massive concussive force that can be amplified by canyons and caves. If you find an ISIS base spread over a large area in a canyon you drop this to wipe out the base. If you find that they are spread out in caves you drop this outside to allow the concussive force to go down the tunnels. This is used on cave systems that can't be penetrated by traditional penetrating weapons.
This was dropped on a cave complex.
The only other way to clear out an area like this is to send boots on the ground and hope they find all the hiding spots. I guess that is what people would prefer?
http://abcnews.go.com/International/us-drops-mother-bombs-afghanistan-largest-nuclear-weapon/story?id=46778853
Its essentially a large bomb that doesn't penetrate but relies on a massive concussive force that can be amplified by canyons and caves. If you find an ISIS base spread over a large area in a canyon you drop this to wipe out the base. If you find that they are spread out in caves you drop this outside to allow the concussive force to go down the tunnels. This is used on cave systems that can't be penetrated by traditional penetrating weapons.
This was dropped on a cave complex.
The only other way to clear out an area like this is to send boots on the ground and hope they find all the hiding spots. I guess that is what people would prefer?
http://abcnews.go.com/International/us-drops-mother-bombs-afghanistan-largest-nuclear-weapon/story?id=46778853
AndrewDean84xX
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I imagine Trump murdered a lot people today that hate America with his weapon. I wonder how many new people he made hate America today, or even made some want to be radical now.
WhiteRabbitEXE
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We likely have the physical capacity to make much, much bigger bombs, but part of the reason we moved away from just making bigger blasts is that they became impractically large long before we hit Tsar Bomba size. It's highly unlikely anyone is making anything bigger than Tsar Bomba, or even close to it. There's literally no conceivable case where a 50 megaton bomb is remotely necessary, at least shy of an Independence Day-like alien invasion lol. We can be just as effective with a fraction of the yield, and even a "tiny" nuclear bomb is both devastating beyond belief and basically a guaranteed escalation to end-of-world event simply due to the quantity of bombs.Yea they have the 100Mt that was designed, but the 50Mt was tested. Also it's freaky since that was back in 1961.....who knows what's going on now.
WordAssassin
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Ah true that's a very good point. I'm still curious as to how much these things cost but I didn't even consider that (it's still early, blergh)
wesleyshark
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This is definitely a far more preferable option to sending in troops.
Did I miss something? was the bomb dropped in a town?
It's unfortunately a side effect of the terrible administration. There's just no faith in them at all so the immediate reaction is a negative one. Until they prove otherwise, they don't get the benefit of the doubt.
It's the largest non nuke bomb that we have, right?
thehypocrite
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"At that moment, when all those civilians died, then he finally became the President of the USA."
Steeped in a Sea of Games
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I get it, but it's fairly unnerving to see the military pulling out some of its biggest, never-before used weaponry right at a time when things are already feeling uneasy and Trump is banging on the war drum.
When it comes to the military, you can't just trust them when they call something "a terrorist target" considering all the other terrorist targets that ended up not being so terroristy
Fuck. Don't get me started
shoplifter
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Stop talking sense
CrimzonSamurai
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Seriously. This isn't like a nuke or even close.
Unless they dropped it in the middle of a town it really isn't that big of a deal.
Jeffolation
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Time to accomplish more missions.
So, there's a huge jump in power from a MOAB to a nuke?
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